I'm Reading the Bible!..Contradictions Abound

I'm not religious by any means, but it's important to read something that is so highly regarded. And, it's also a very good historical document as well as an entertaining read. So I'm taking notes and I realize something; the Bible is very contradictory of itself. For instance:

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

I know there are a lot of religious discussions on this board but, apparently, they're popular. Let me remind you, however, that I wont tolerate anykind of trash talking, attitudes, and immature name-calling. Be respectful and kind to each other, like the Bible says. :)

If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? Lebbin

George Calin said it best. "In the bible it says god gave us a list of 10 things he doesnt want us to do and if we do them he'll send us to hell where we'll burn and be tourmented forever and ever until the end of time but........ he loves you".

I like his logic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

not just that, during the creation of time it begins to make god as this figure, like overpowering and endless.

when adam and eve are in the garden of eden, he talks to them directly.

then he lies to them by saying he will kill them if they eat the fruit, but then when they do, he kicks them out of eden.

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

VoodooGamer

Please read the context of Psalms 145:9. Eleven verses later it says this:

Psalms 145:20: The LORD guards all those who love Him, but He destroys all the wicked.

Picking one verse out of a whole book and then another out of another book will always yeild a contradiction, and that contradiction will always be solved by a reading of the context of one or both of the two verses.

As for how many contradictions I've found, around 700.

[QUOTE="Lebbin"]If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? SolidSnake35

yeah seriesly. it sayeth in the book of the bible that the world is flat and rests on four pillars. whereas "SCIENCE" will have us believe that "DINOSAURS" made the earth round. WHAT A CORK of GRAB-AGE.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Lebbin"]If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? NaiKoN9293

yeah seriesly. it sayeth in the book of the bible that the world is flat and rests on four pillars.

The word "flat" isn't used in the Bible to ever describe more than a field, and pillars? Metaphor, that is still used today, and they are never numbered.

I suppose Ken Follett is a flat-earth sciencephobe.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

Theokhoth

Please read the context of Psalms 145:9. Eleven verses later it says this:

Psalms 145:20: The LORD guards all those who love Him, but He destroys all the wicked.

Picking one verse out of a whole book and then another out of another book will always yeild a contradiction, and that contradiction will always be solved by a reading of the context of one or both of the two verses.

As for how many contradictions I've found, around 700.

Aye, context is absolutely key when looking at scripture. Some talk about universal rules/laws/etc., and others speak of specific culture/region/situation/etc. specific rules. Being able to decipher which is which is pretty much key. :P Much the same with finidng which stories are metaphorical and which are not XD

I'm religious, I dig the bible. I find it's values rewarding as a person of growing hope and faith. Some of it's passages are different, but in retrosprect, it could've been misinterrupted or mistranslated in the past.CleanPlayer

Aye, the Bible has been mistranslated in the past, which is why in some modern versions of the Bible, some verses are confusing and have been skewed in favor of an agenda.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Lebbin"]If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? NaiKoN9293

yeah seriesly. it sayeth in the book of the bible that the world is flat and rests on four pillars. whereas "SCIENCE" will have us believe that "DINOSAURS" made the earth round. WHAT A CORK of GRAB-AGE.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

Theokhoth

Please read the context of Psalms 145:9. Eleven verses later it says this:

Psalms 145:20: The LORD guards all those who love Him, but He destroys all the wicked.

Picking one verse out of a whole book and then another out of another book will always yeild a contradiction, and that contradiction will always be solved by a reading of the context of one or both of the two verses.

As for how many contradictions I've found, around 700.

In reading the verses, doesn't that still contradict the statement "The Lord is good to all: His tender mercies are over all his works"? It seems to me that "all" would include the wicked too.

So 1/3 of the world believes in something that contradicts itself? That seems unlikely...battlefront23

Argumentum ad populum does not necessarily mean inerrant.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Lebbin"]If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? orazinac

yeah seriesly. it sayeth in the book of the bible that the world is flat and rests on four pillars. whereas "SCIENCE" will have us believe that "DINOSAURS" made the earth round. WHAT A CORK of GRAB-AGE.

it sayeth so.

"for the lord created the earth. it was flat, and that was that"

-book of GRAB-AGE 3:13

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]So 1/3 of the world believes in something that contradicts itself? That seems unlikely...Genetic_Code

Argumentum ad populum does not necessarily mean inerrant.

True, but it sure does help. Also, it is not forced on anyone. Islam usually is so if someone used that same argument for Islam, I think it wouldn't work.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

GabuEx

Please read the context of Psalms 145:9. Eleven verses later it says this:

Psalms 145:20: The LORD guards all those who love Him, but He destroys all the wicked.

Picking one verse out of a whole book and then another out of another book will always yeild a contradiction, and that contradiction will always be solved by a reading of the context of one or both of the two verses.

As for how many contradictions I've found, around 700.

In reading the verses, doesn't that still contradict the statement "The Lord is good to all: His tender mercies are over all his works"? It seems to me that "all" would include the wicked too.

Mercy, I would think, would have a limit.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

Theokhoth

Please read the context of Psalms 145:9. Eleven verses later it says this:

Psalms 145:20: The LORD guards all those who love Him, but He destroys all the wicked.

Picking one verse out of a whole book and then another out of another book will always yeild a contradiction, and that contradiction will always be solved by a reading of the context of one or both of the two verses.

As for how many contradictions I've found, around 700.

In reading the verses, doesn't that still contradict the statement "The Lord is good to all: His tender mercies are over all his works"? It seems to me that "all" would include the wicked too.

Mercy, I would think, would have a limit.

Also, God's view of good isn't necessarily man's view of good.

[QUOTE="Lebbin"]If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? SolidSnake35

Exactly.

it sayeth so.

"for the lord created the earth. it was flat, and that was that"

-book of GRAB-AGE 3:13

NaiKoN9293

First off, your sig is stupid. Secondly, your argument PHAILS due to the fact you can't even find the reference to that verse and the fact that you're taking that verse out of context.

Wow, you read the Bible in your spare time? How much does your life suck? orazinac

It's actually a pretty good read. :P I recommend everyone, whether they are religious or not, to read it.

As far as context, I can definitely understand that but as a mod clarified, those two quotes are still contradictory even with context applied to them.

[QUOTE="orazinac"]Wow, you read the Bible in your spare time? How much does your life suck? VoodooGamer

It's actually a pretty good read. :P I recommend everyone, whether they are religious or not, to read it.

As far as context, I can definitely understand that but as a mod clarified, those two quotes are still contradictory even with context applied to them.

Then look at Jeremiah 13:10 (four verses before the one you posted):

These evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.

[QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]

it sayeth so.

"for the lord created the earth. it was flat, and that was that"

-book of GRAB-AGE 3:13

battlefront23

First off, your sig is stupid. Secondly, your argument PHAILS due to the fact you can't even find the reference to that verse and the fact that you're taking that verse out of context.

First off, don't diss Raptor Jesus. Sencond, are you honestly taking him seriously? Learn when someone is making delicious jokes.

[QUOTE="orazinac"]Wow, you read the Bible in your spare time? How much does your life suck? VoodooGamer

It's actually a pretty good read. :P I recommend everyone, whether they are religious or not, to read it.

As far as context, I can definitely understand that but as a mod clarified, those two quotes are still contradictory even with context applied to them.

Anyone who wants a leg to stand on in a debate about Christianity needs to read the Bible at least once. Looking at anti-religion sites and bringing up their arguments is not a valid standpoint if you don't understand how those arguments came to be. :P

Those first quotes aren't all too contradictory. He's saying God is good to all, while another says he'll basically strike down the wicked. God would technically be good to everyone at some point in their lives, but if one does enough wrong then his tender mercies will have bore no fruit within the wrongdoer. So he'd then show that person no mercy and destroy him/her.

It's like an employer saying he's good to all his employees, but you know there will come a time when that employer might have to fire an employee who has done something very wrong.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]

it sayeth so.

"for the lord created the earth. it was flat, and that was that"

-book of GRAB-AGE 3:13

Dnadolny

First off, your sig is stupid. Secondly, your argument PHAILS due to the fact you can't even find the reference to that verse and the fact that you're taking that verse out of context.

First off, don't diss Raptor Jesus. Sencond, are you honestly taking him seriously? Learn when someone is making delicious jokes.

First off, I will diss anything that's stupid enough to make fun of the greatest man to ever exist. Second off, I knew he was kidding. And his joke was stupid and unnecessary... and not funny.

Christianity has actually convinced ppl that there is a old man with a beard living on a cloud and he has these 10 commandments if you dont follow them your gonna burn forever in hell but he loves you just the way you are unless your gay and he always needs money55-69

My gay what?

[QUOTE="Lebbin"]If there were contradictions (even as big as that one, if it was a contradiction), do you think so many people would believe it? SolidSnake35

im not even Christian, but wow o.0 very true.

I'm not religious by any means, but it's important to read something that is so highly regarded. And, it's also a very good historical document as well as an entertaining read. So I'm taking notes and I realize something; the Bible is very contradictory of itself. For instance:

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

I know there are a lot of religious discussions on this board but, apparently, they're popular. Let me remind you, however, that I wont tolerate anykind of trash talking, attitudes, and immature name-calling. Be respectful and kind to each other, like the Bible says. :)

VoodooGamer

FYI, just because you dont understand something, doesnt mean its a contradiction...

ALSO, READ IN CONTEXT...

I'm not religious by any means, but it's important to read something that is so highly regarded. And, it's also a very good historical document as well as an entertaining read. So I'm taking notes and I realize something; the Bible is very contradictory of itself. For instance:

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

I know there are a lot of religious discussions on this board but, apparently, they're popular. Let me remind you, however, that I wont tolerate anykind of trash talking, attitudes, and immature name-calling. Be respectful and kind to each other, like the Bible says. :)

VoodooGamer

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

I'm not religious by any means, but it's important to read something that is so highly regarded. And, it's also a very good historical document as well as an entertaining read. So I'm taking notes and I realize something; the Bible is very contradictory of itself. For instance:

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

I know there are a lot of religious discussions on this board but, apparently, they're popular. Let me remind you, however, that I wont tolerate anykind of trash talking, attitudes, and immature name-calling. Be respectful and kind to each other, like the Bible says. :)

SonKev

FYI, just because you dont understand something, doesnt mean its a contradiction...

ALSO, READ IN CONTEXT...

There are no such things as contradictions. There is much more than just true and false or yes and no. The human mind is weak though so it can't get past these barriers. AT least most of us can't.

There are no such things as contradictions. There is much more than just true and false or yes and no. The human mind is weak though so it can't get past these barriers. AT least most of us can't.

EMOEVOLUTION

As far as contradictions go, I always found this one funny:

"Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him"

As far as contradictions go, I always found this one funny:

1 Corinthians 11:14-15(New International Version)

"Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him"

AlternatingCaps

You ARE aware that white, long-haired Jesus comes from European art, right? PopularMechanics estimates Him to look more like this:

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As far as contradictions go, I always found this one funny:

1 Corinthians 11:14-15(New International Version)

"Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him"

Theokhoth

You ARE aware that white, long-haired Jesus comes from European art, right? PopularMechanics estimates Him to look more like this:

Interesting. That's actually the first picture I've seen of him like that.

That begs the question, how did the long-haired image come to be?

EDIT: Didn't realize there was a link there. Read the article. Pretty interesting actually.

Interesting. That's actually the first picture I've seen of him like that.

That begs the question, how did the long-haired image come to be?

AlternatingCaps

Long hair and white skin was all the rage in Europe at the time. The Messiah being brown-skinned wasn't very appealing to the Romans.

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Interesting. That's actually the first picture I've seen of him like that.

That begs the question, how did the long-haired image come to be?

Theokhoth

Long hair and white skin was all the rage in Europe at the time. The Messiah being brown-skinned wasn't very appealing to the Romans.

Is Jesus apperance described in the bible?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"]

Interesting. That's actually the first picture I've seen of him like that.

That begs the question, how did the long-haired image come to be?

Dark-Sithious

Long hair and white skin was all the rage in Europe at the time. The Messiah being brown-skinned wasn't very appealing to the Romans.

Is Jesus apperance described in the bible?

Nope. But considering His culture, we can make a rough guess of what He looked like.

It wasn't white. With long, red hair.

[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"]

Interesting. That's actually the first picture I've seen of him like that.

That begs the question, how did the long-haired image come to be?

Theokhoth

Long hair and white skin was all the rage in Europe at the time. The Messiah being brown-skinned wasn't very appealing to the Romans.

Is Jesus apperance described in the bible?

Nope. But considering His culture, we can make a rough guess of what He looked like.

It wasn't white. With long, red hair.

You lost me. Has Jesus ever been portrayed with long red hair?

You lost me. Has Jesus ever been portrayed with long red hair?

Dark-Sithious

Yeah, in European art.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

PSA 145:9The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works

JER 13:14And I will dash them one against another, even the Fathers and Sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Sounds a bit odd to me. So what contradictions have you found? Is God real? Is the Bible true?

GabuEx

Please read the context of Psalms 145:9. Eleven verses later it says this:

Psalms 145:20: The LORD guards all those who love Him, but He destroys all the wicked.

Picking one verse out of a whole book and then another out of another book will always yeild a contradiction, and that contradiction will always be solved by a reading of the context of one or both of the two verses.

As for how many contradictions I've found, around 700.

In reading the verses, doesn't that still contradict the statement "The Lord is good to all: His tender mercies are over all his works"? It seems to me that "all" would include the wicked too.

it means all who come to know us He died for our sins

we would all be doomed to hell

if He didnt die on the cross for us

wicked or not if we put our belief and trust into Him we will be saved

but for we should do all unto the Lord Christ