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#1 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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If you were to buy an sportscar/muscle car do your prefer a high end V6 or a big beasty V8?
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turbocharged 6's for me, lighter and more efficient
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Turbo'd engine is the way to go, those gas guzzlers were fine 30 years ago but even a 2.0 turbo diesel can match a powerful V8 these days, own a 1.9T diesel car myself and it can go toe to toe with a 3.0 V6 and gets +15mpg to boot.
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#4 Inconsistancy
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Depends on what we're considering a 'sports car', and after that it's defined by the car itself.

A 458 Italia has a V8, a Lotus Exige has an in-line 4.

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Depends on what we're considering a 'sports car', and after that it's defined by the car itself.

A 458 Italia has a V8, a Lotus Exige has an in-line 4.

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Im talking about real world cars that the bulk of us could afford like Camaro's, Mustangs, Subaru WRX, Dodge Challenger, Infinity Q35, Nissan 350z and the like. Lets keep the cost of the vehicle under or around 40k!
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A modern V8 engine absolutely annahlietes V6 ones. Sure you pay the price with gas but you get a much more powerful engine.

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A modern V8 engine absolutely annahlietes V6 ones. Sure you pay the price with gas but you get a much more powerful engine.

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You also pay the price for the car itself. In pricing Mustangs and Camaro's, I found comparably equipped cars in both classes with the only major difference being the engine and maybe a couple other things like leather interior and wheels was on average another $5000-10,000. Not worth it imo! For instance, I got my 2012 V6 Camaro for around $25,000. I didnt want leather seats as I have had them and imo they suck....blazing hot in the Summer and ice cold in the Winter. Then when I factor in that the overall hp difference between my Camaro V6 and that of the Camaro SS is around 70 HP, I just didnt see the need to drop another $10-15k for a slightly bigger engine and a few niceities. Plus the fact that I drive 80 miles a day round trip to work, that V8 would have cost me a ton in gas!! The 323 hp V6 in my Camaro has PLENTY of get up and go. Plus with the money I saved in not going for the V8, I can spend my time tweaking my baby the way I want to.
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I'd get the biggest V8 possible. V6's are for girls XD

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#9 SuperKaio-ken
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[QUOTE="SuperKaio-ken"]

A modern V8 engine absolutely annahlietes V6 ones. Sure you pay the price with gas but you get a much more powerful engine.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

You also pay the price for the car itself. In pricing Mustangs and Camaro's, I found comparably equipped cars in both classes with the only major difference being the engine and maybe a couple other things like leather interior and wheels was on average another $5000-10,000. Not worth it imo! For instance, I got my 2012 V6 Camaro for around $25,000. I didnt want leather seats as I have had them and imo they suck....blazing hot in the Summer and ice cold in the Winter. Then when I factor in that the overall hp difference between my Camaro V6 and that of the Camaro SS is around 70 HP, I just didnt see the need to drop another $10-15k for a slightly bigger engine and a few niceities. Plus the fact that I drive 80 miles a day round trip to work, that V8 would have cost me a ton in gas!! The 323 hp V6 in my Camaro has PLENTY of get up and go. Plus with the money I saved in not going for the V8, I can spend my time tweaking my baby the way I want to.

Well from my experience with modern V6 engines they aren't near as quick (or as nice sounding) as modern V8 engines, and you can get a quite alot more out of a v8 in comparison. You also have to look at the torque as well, the V6 only gets 278 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm (even the V8 engines of 2004 had more) compared to the modern V8's 420 lb-ft of torque. That being said, if your happy with your car and it suits your needs the best than you made a good decision going with the V6. In my opinion though, the extra 10,000 for the better engine that you can do more with (especially if you want to add a supercharger) and the necessities make it worth it to me. I mean if you're dropping $25,000 on a car you might as well spend the extra 10,000 (which isn't going to really up your payments by that much monthly) for the better car.

Just my opinion though.




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I love the sound of a V8 engine.

I've owned this V8 for over 10 years!:

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v8 for the badassery of the sound if it alone..
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i think this would great if it's a poll. anyway, i prefer v8 than v6.
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#13 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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I'd get the biggest V8 possible. V6's are for girls XD

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What kind of car do you drive?
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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="SuperKaio-ken"]

A modern V8 engine absolutely annahlietes V6 ones. Sure you pay the price with gas but you get a much more powerful engine.

SuperKaio-ken

You also pay the price for the car itself. In pricing Mustangs and Camaro's, I found comparably equipped cars in both classes with the only major difference being the engine and maybe a couple other things like leather interior and wheels was on average another $5000-10,000. Not worth it imo! For instance, I got my 2012 V6 Camaro for around $25,000. I didnt want leather seats as I have had them and imo they suck....blazing hot in the Summer and ice cold in the Winter. Then when I factor in that the overall hp difference between my Camaro V6 and that of the Camaro SS is around 70 HP, I just didnt see the need to drop another $10-15k for a slightly bigger engine and a few niceities. Plus the fact that I drive 80 miles a day round trip to work, that V8 would have cost me a ton in gas!! The 323 hp V6 in my Camaro has PLENTY of get up and go. Plus with the money I saved in not going for the V8, I can spend my time tweaking my baby the way I want to.

Well from my experience with modern V6 engines they aren't near as quick (or as nice sounding) as modern V8 engines, and you can get a quite alot more out of a v8 in comparison. You also have to look at the torque as well, the V6 only gets 278 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm (even the V8 engines of 2004 had more) compared to the modern V8's 420 lb-ft of torque. That being said, if your happy with your car and it suits your needs the best than you made a good decision going with the V6. In my opinion though, the extra 10,000 for the better engine that you can do more with (especially if you want to add a supercharger) and the necessities make it worth it to me. I mean if you're dropping $25,000 on a car you might as well spend the extra 10,000 (which isn't going to really up your payments by that much monthly) for the better car.

Just my opinion though.




Not sure how you figure your math, but based on my calculations using the trade in I had...(1999 Lexus RX 300 in above average shape and having below average miles for a car of its age), the interest rate I got and the term I financed the vehicle, my payment for a Camaro SS Vs. my payment for my V6 would have gone up around $175 per month over my current one. That seems like alot to pay to me for a few more hp and some frills. I mean when am I really going to need the extra hp or torque?? I dont live in Fast and Furious land! I promise you my V6 Camaro will lay waste to any tuned up rice burner, WRX, Jetta, BMW 3 0r 5 series, V6 Mustang, V6 Challenger or Charger!! Check the stats! ....Just my opinion though!!!
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both are nice, but I would prefer a V8. If your going to buy a sports car, then why bother looking at the gas mileage.

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I'll take the 8.4L V10 in the 2013 Viper, thanks.
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Not sure how you figure your math, but based on my calculations using the trade in I had...(1999 Lexus RX 300 in above average shape and having below average miles for a car of its age), the interest rate I got and the term I financed the vehicle, my payment for a Camaro SS Vs. my payment for my V6 would have gone up around $175 per month over my current one. That seems like alot to pay to me for a few more hp and some frills. I mean when am I really going to need the extra hp or torque?? I dont live in Fast and Furious land! I promise you my V6 Camaro will lay waste to any tuned up rice burner, WRX, Jetta, BMW 3 0r 5 series, V6 Mustang, V6 Challenger or Charger!! Check the stats! ....Just my opinion though!!!

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

I agree that an extra third cost price would put your repayments right up, but...

Checking the stats (as you requested):

2012 Camaro V6 0-60 = 6.6 seconds

2005 BMW M5 0-60 = 5.1 seconds (2010 models are <5 seconds)

Stock Subaru Imprezza WRX 0-60 = 4.8 seconds

(1998 TVR Griffith 0-60 = 4.1 seconds)

"While the Camaro?s V6 provides plenty of get-up-and-go, one reviewer notes that a Toyota Camry V6 was quicker in a zero-to-60 mph sprint. He blames the Camaro?s size and heft, as the base coupe weighs roughly 300 pounds more than the comparable Ford Mustang."

From here: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Chevrolet_Camaro/Performance/

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A Toyota Trueno Ae86

BEcause i like how they look :D

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Im talking about real world cars that the bulk of us could afford like Camaro's, Mustangs, Subaru WRX, Dodge Challenger, Infinity Q35, Nissan 350z and the like. Lets keep the cost of the vehicle under or around 40k!ShoTTyMcNaDeS

k... Lotus Elise, still back to the in-line 4 and the Subaru is a flat-4. The question was still answered, it's the car's correct engine, not some silly dick compensation measurement of an engine.

These aren't cars you can just shove any engine into in the first place anyway, especially something like the Elise mid-engine with a trunk@700-850kg.

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#20 Fightingfan
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I prefer Datsun, so V6 is my only option.

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I prefer Datsun, so V6 is my only option.

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Aren't they straight 6?

Those low profile tyres do look a bit odd on the rims in that pic!

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They're straight six yup.

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[QUOTE="SuperKaio-ken"]

A modern V8 engine absolutely annahlietes V6 ones. Sure you pay the price with gas but you get a much more powerful engine.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS
You also pay the price for the car itself. In pricing Mustangs and Camaro's, I found comparably equipped cars in both classes with the only major difference being the engine and maybe a couple other things like leather interior and wheels was on average another $5000-10,000. Not worth it imo! For instance, I got my 2012 V6 Camaro for around $25,000. I didnt want leather seats as I have had them and imo they suck....blazing hot in the Summer and ice cold in the Winter. Then when I factor in that the overall hp difference between my Camaro V6 and that of the Camaro SS is around 70 HP, I just didnt see the need to drop another $10-15k for a slightly bigger engine and a few niceities. Plus the fact that I drive 80 miles a day round trip to work, that V8 would have cost me a ton in gas!! The 323 hp V6 in my Camaro has PLENTY of get up and go. Plus with the money I saved in not going for the V8, I can spend my time tweaking my baby the way I want to.

I myself have a 2011 V6 Camaro 1LT RS with manual transmission. I love my car but if i could have afforded the payments, gas, and especially the insurance, i would not have hesitated to go for an SS. It's 100hp and like 130tq more over the V6 and the weight is only about 150lbs more plus the much better brakes. Then there is the sound of a V8 and the much lower rpm's that the power comes from. In my car the power doesnt really hit until like 3500rpm and for the most that's a bit high for the way it is geared to feel the power unless you are speeding. That said i still love the car and i get pretty good MPG at around 26-28 and i drive it pretty aggressively but i dont speed. Also i too decided against the leather for the same reasons. I would have loved to get the 2LT but didnt want leather or any of the costs of it.
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Depends entirely on the characteristics of the overall car.

Also, Camaros and Mustangs are not sportscars.

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V8 for sure! Yes, I'll pay for it just as I am now for having a Mark VIII, and I can only imagine how much more I'll be paying when I finally finish gathering my money together to toss in a Vortech blower and have it somewhat close to the caliber of this Mark, only Light Prairie Tan.

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with this engine

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCl6_d1f3vU

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Straight Six,
Flat Six,
Both are delicious.

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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="SuperKaio-ken"]

A modern V8 engine absolutely annahlietes V6 ones. Sure you pay the price with gas but you get a much more powerful engine.

Kurushio
You also pay the price for the car itself. In pricing Mustangs and Camaro's, I found comparably equipped cars in both classes with the only major difference being the engine and maybe a couple other things like leather interior and wheels was on average another $5000-10,000. Not worth it imo! For instance, I got my 2012 V6 Camaro for around $25,000. I didnt want leather seats as I have had them and imo they suck....blazing hot in the Summer and ice cold in the Winter. Then when I factor in that the overall hp difference between my Camaro V6 and that of the Camaro SS is around 70 HP, I just didnt see the need to drop another $10-15k for a slightly bigger engine and a few niceities. Plus the fact that I drive 80 miles a day round trip to work, that V8 would have cost me a ton in gas!! The 323 hp V6 in my Camaro has PLENTY of get up and go. Plus with the money I saved in not going for the V8, I can spend my time tweaking my baby the way I want to.

I myself have a 2011 V6 Camaro 1LT RS with manual transmission. I love my car but if i could have afforded the payments, gas, and especially the insurance, i would not have hesitated to go for an SS. It's 100hp and like 130tq more over the V6 and the weight is only about 150lbs more plus the much better brakes. Then there is the sound of a V8 and the much lower rpm's that the power comes from. In my car the power doesnt really hit until like 3500rpm and for the most that's a bit high for the way it is geared to feel the power unless you are speeding. That said i still love the car and i get pretty good MPG at around 26-28 and i drive it pretty aggressively but i dont speed. Also i too decided against the leather for the same reasons. I would have loved to get the 2LT but didnt want leather or any of the costs of it.

I am truely in the same boat as this guy. I wanted a SS Camaro as well as I always wanted the throaty sounding V8. Then I started to price these cars and I was like well, the V8 is nice, but I drive 80 miles round trip to work and while Im not collecting pop cans for money as a second income, Im not wiping my butt with $100 bills either. I did my homework on my finances and found a comfortable payment. The SS wasnt anywhere in that galaxy! I am very, very happy with my 2012 Inferno Orange V6 Camaro. It is a sweet ride that provides enough punch to get where I want!
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Straight Six,
Flat Six,
Both are delicious.

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5E6c3.jpg

Crunchy_Nuts
and both are what, $75,000-100,000 vehicles. Lets live in the land of reality. Unless of course you happen to be uber rich!!
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V8 hell yeah.

My favorite care is the V8 vantage S. 4.7 litre with a gloriously biblical sound.

430 HP

361 lb/ft torque

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Depends entirely on the characteristics of the overall car.

Also, Camaros and Mustangs are not sportscars.

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yes they are.

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[QUOTE="Kurushio"][QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]You also pay the price for the car itself. In pricing Mustangs and Camaro's, I found comparably equipped cars in both classes with the only major difference being the engine and maybe a couple other things like leather interior and wheels was on average another $5000-10,000. Not worth it imo! For instance, I got my 2012 V6 Camaro for around $25,000. I didnt want leather seats as I have had them and imo they suck....blazing hot in the Summer and ice cold in the Winter. Then when I factor in that the overall hp difference between my Camaro V6 and that of the Camaro SS is around 70 HP, I just didnt see the need to drop another $10-15k for a slightly bigger engine and a few niceities. Plus the fact that I drive 80 miles a day round trip to work, that V8 would have cost me a ton in gas!! The 323 hp V6 in my Camaro has PLENTY of get up and go. Plus with the money I saved in not going for the V8, I can spend my time tweaking my baby the way I want to.ShoTTyMcNaDeS
I myself have a 2011 V6 Camaro 1LT RS with manual transmission. I love my car but if i could have afforded the payments, gas, and especially the insurance, i would not have hesitated to go for an SS. It's 100hp and like 130tq more over the V6 and the weight is only about 150lbs more plus the much better brakes. Then there is the sound of a V8 and the much lower rpm's that the power comes from. In my car the power doesnt really hit until like 3500rpm and for the most that's a bit high for the way it is geared to feel the power unless you are speeding. That said i still love the car and i get pretty good MPG at around 26-28 and i drive it pretty aggressively but i dont speed. Also i too decided against the leather for the same reasons. I would have loved to get the 2LT but didnt want leather or any of the costs of it.

I am truely in the same boat as this guy. I wanted a SS Camaro as well as I always wanted the throaty sounding V8. Then I started to price these cars and I was like well, the V8 is nice, but I drive 80 miles round trip to work and while Im not collecting pop cans for money as a second income, Im not wiping my butt with $100 bills either. I did my homework on my finances and found a comfortable payment. The SS wasnt anywhere in that galaxy! I am very, very happy with my 2012 Inferno Orange V6 Camaro. It is a sweet ride that provides enough punch to get where I want!

Mine is Cyber Grey Metallic. I thought about the other colors with Aqua Blue Metallic being the one i wanted but discontinued but grey was the choice for me. I'm pretty sure i would attract a lot more "bad" attention with a bright color. Mine just blends right in which i rather like the way i drive. The 2012 is pretty nice but i dont like several of the changes they did. First you cant ever get long tube headers for it which limits the performance and sound mods you could do. Another is the steering wheel is really bland. Another minor one is changing the font on the dials but that's nitpicking lol. I installed an injen CAI which should give me as much if not more hp and tq than the 2012 base V6. I would love to get a ZL1 Camaro with 580hp though i think i would probably even take a Nissan GT-R over a ZL1 if money was no issue but that's pretty much double the price, and though probably worth it, no way right now could i ever even begin to think of that. When a car gets up into house prices it becomes more of an issue.
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http://www.carsimg.org/wallpapers/2012/04/2009-aston-martin-vantage-by-mw-design-technik-model-front-angle-600x800.jpg

Yep.

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Depends entirely on the characteristics of the overall car.

Also, Camaros and Mustangs are not sportscars.

GOGOGOGURT

yes they are.

LOL. No they aren't. You may consider them sporty cars, but they are in no way shape or form sportscars. That's why they are called pony cars, not sportscars;)

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Dodge viper for sure.
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V12 or bust motherf*cker.

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It depends on the car. I'm a big fan of Nissan Z-cars (I've owned 3), and I love the 6-cylinder engines in those. I would consider it sacrilege if Nissan ever puts anything but a 6-cylinder in one. The Toyota Supra always had a 6-cylinder, and it was magic in that car. However, I much prefer a V8 in a Muscle/Pony car. I know that modern V6 engines are making over 300 horsepower in many cases (my 07 350z had 306hp), but a Mustang, Camaro (too heavy), or Challenger (way too heavy) should have a V8. This type of car needs to look right, feel right, and sound right to be good. Only a V8 can feel and sound right in them. I bought a 2013 Mustang GT 5.0 a couple of months back, and I love the engine in it. 420hp and 390 lb/ft of torque for 29 grand is a ridiculous deal.

There are some truly great 4-cylinder sports cars too. The Mazda MX-5/Miata is a terrific car. The Subaru BR-Z/Scion FR-S/Toyota GT-86 is the real deal. A real lightweight, rear-wheel drive, dedicated sports car. The Honda S2000 was a faster example of a 4-cylinder sports car done right.

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#37 hartsickdiscipl
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Depends entirely on the characteristics of the overall car.

Also, Camaros and Mustangs are not sportscars.

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yes they are.

LOL. No they aren't. You may consider them sporty cars, but they are in no way shape or form sportscars. That's why they are called pony cars, not sportscars;)

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I used to feel this way too, until I drove some of the new pony/muscle cars. They really have become sports cars as well. The handling of my Mustang isn't far off that of my 07 350z at all. It's shocking how well it sticks to the road and how responsive it is. I know the 5th gen Camaros are good in this way too. The Challenger, not so much.

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#38 RmanForLife
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I would prefer a 1.3L Turbo'd Rotary over both :) But between a 6 and an 8.... I dunno, I actually like both.

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#39 Rikusaki
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I prefer coupes and hatchbacks with an inline-4 or V6.

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#40 CKYguy25
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i want a nice turbo on there