In most movies why does the black man die first?

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#1 Hungry_Jello
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I always wondered when i was younger why the black man had to die first. Is it a coincidence? Even in current movies you find the black man dies first except for the Dark Knight and the Matrix.
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#2 DrSponge
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Probably just coincidence.
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#3 bluezy
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Probably just coincidence.DrSponge
Just like it's a coincidence that nearly all action movies have men on fire?:o
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#4 BobbyTurkalino
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Name these movies where this happens.
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#5 194197844077667059316682358889
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It's not just you; Google the phrase "the brother always gets it"
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#6 sammyjenkis898
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Name these movies where this happens.HillyBilly
Friday the 13th comes to mind. :P
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#7 Oleg_Huzwog
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Apparently, it's some sort of universal law. Not even giant robots from space are immune. In the first Transformers film, the only Autobot who died was Jazz.
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#8 freshgman
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[QUOTE="HillyBilly"]Name these movies where this happens.sammyjenkis898
Friday the 13th comes to mind. :P

every hooror movie in general. one movie he died in the first 10 min. i was like wtf
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#9 lobodob
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Pshh, havent you seen Deep Blue Sea? The black chef saves the day :D
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#10 FragStains
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I'm going to need to see a spreadsheet with pertinent data on it, before I can agree or disagree.
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#11 MetaKnight50
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Pshh, havent you seen Deep Blue Sea? The black chef saves the day :Dlobodob
i love that movie.
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#12 194197844077667059316682358889
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Pshh, havent you seen Deep Blue Sea? The black chef saves the day :Dlobodob
Funny you should mention that "The brother always gets it -Deep Blue Sea features two black characters, so if Hollywood's 'brother rule' is in effect, it won't be difficult to figure out who'll end up in the shark's belly, will it? asks John Patterson"
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"]Probably just coincidence.bluezy
Just like it's a coincidence that nearly all action movies have men on fire?:o

but its awesome 2 see dudes on fire!
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#14 194197844077667059316682358889
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I'm going to need to see a spreadsheet with pertinent data on it, before I can agree or disagree.FragStains
I don't have a canonical list, but I do have an article and, oh yeah, another article :)
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Name these movies where this happens.HillyBilly
The Fog is another. There really is a lot, if you provoke me i'll probably make a big list. But i'll probably get my answers from google, so google it yourselves you lazy buggers.
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#16 aceofspades076
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In Panic Room the black man saves the day.
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#17 bogaty
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natural selection? Maybe they just aren't as camoflagued to fit into white suburban surroundings.
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#18 194197844077667059316682358889
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In Panic Room the black man saves the day.aceofspades076
That's because he was that other Hollywood archetype, the magical black friend
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#19 LoG-Sacrament
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the high amount of black guys dieing early on in movies is likely due to the roles that they often played (or the roles they didnt play, depending on how you want to look at it). theres not too many blacks in leading roles (especially in slasher films aimed at suburbanites). whether you want to blame racism or target marketing, black guys got cast in expendable roles. and in horror movies, expendable characters die.
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#20 foxhound_fox
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The "token black guy" is always one who dies first. It is a common element in modern movies... and I have no idea why it occurs so often.
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#21 Kamekazi_69
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No, In Im Am Legend, Will Smith's...oh, nevermind
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#22 Faeryan
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I can think of more films where the black man doesn't die first.
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#23 cametall
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Name these movies where this happens.HillyBilly
Transformers! They established Jazz was black, then killed him!
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#24 duxup
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I suppose because over time there weren't that many lead roles for minorities, or even roles for minorities. You don't often kill off main characters early on so the minor characters get the axe, or gun, or whatever.
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#25 MrGeezer
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Pshh, havent you seen Deep Blue Sea? The black chef saves the day :Dlobodob

That usually only works in movies with two black guys. That way they can have the black guy survive, and STILL kill off a black guy early in the movie. It's like having your cake and eating it too.

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#26 Avistann
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[QUOTE="HillyBilly"]Name these movies where this happens.sammyjenkis898
Friday the 13th comes to mind. :P

Not the remake!
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#27 muthsera666
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In Alien, the black guy was the last to die.
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#28 LexLas
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Why as why ? At least he made it to the movie, he got paid and was acting in the movie. That's a great thing. I know i won't ever make it to a movie and if i did and died then i'd still be happy i was in the movie.
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#29 makiveli100
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Who cares who dies first? It's a horror movie and if someone doesn't die then I'd be upset .
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#30 Lord_Daemon
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The convention came about mainly due to an attempt to be inclusive to African Americans. They would throw them in minor roles in an attempt to have diverse casting but since typcially they weren't main characters they would fall by the wayside along with the rest of the cast. Unfortunately their deaths stood out more from the sea of dying whites as their presence wasn't as common.

The situation became more accidently cliched in the attempt to provide more meat to the roles of minorities. Instead of merely a backround role they would be the "best friend" or a close ally who's death was supposed to garner sympathy and at the same time throw a larger spotlight on the acting chops of the African American community. Unfortunately the device became all to common and soon it was a point of ridicule.

I don't think it's much of an issue these days as most of the examples cited in the article posted are rather inaccurate and misleading. With many very large leading role players such as Will Smith and Denzel Washington the brother rule just isn't particularly relevent anymore in my opinion.