Should incestuous marriage be allowed? In other words, the marriage between a brother and sister? Between two first cousins? Between a Father and his daughter? A Mother and her son? A Grandfather with his nephew? Ever had a special aunt that you had a crush on? Considering all of them are consenting adults. A little Oedipus?
Am I for it? No. However, I do see our society heading in that direction. I mean think about it, every argument used to justify freedom to practice homosexuality and the right to same sex marriage can be used in this case as well.
[QUOTE="Media_geek20"]If that's what they want to do.SolidSnake35
I agree with that. Let people make their own decisions so long as it doesn't harm anyone else. The thing is, it reduces the gene pool for future generations, and you get more people in a society with rare hereditary diseases due to inbreeding.
I feel that your post is not really talking about incestual marriage, but a slander to gays. I really don't appreciate that.andyxm
Maybe so, but it's also common for muslim's from certain countries (Pakistan, for instance) to marry their own cousins and stuff. Since Rimnett says he disaproved of incestuous marriages though, I guess you're probably right.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Media_geek20"]If that's what they want to do._dangerman_
I agree with that. Let people make their own decisions so long as it doesn't harm anyone else. The thing is, it reduces the gene pool for future generations, and you get more people in a society with rare hereditary diseases due to inbreeding. The negative effect of inbreeding, though, needs more than just one generation. It usually needs around four or five generations of inbreeding before even the smallest effects take place. However, in can happen after just one generation, but it's really, really rare.
[QUOTE="Media_geek20"] The thing is, it reduces the gene pool for future generations, and you get more people in a society with rare hereditary diseases due to inbreeding. The negative effect of inbreeding, though, needs more than just one generation. It usually needs around four or five generations of inbreeding before even the smallest effects take place. However, in can happen after just one generation, but it's really, really rare. Aren't the children in the 1st generation likely to follow in their parents' footsteps?
Incest is (from a purely scientific view) very dangerous. Observe. C= Disease immunity allele, c= disease allele. If brother and sister have the same parents and end up with Cc, they are safe. However, if they mate: (sorry, GS didn't format my diagram right)
1 in 4 chance of disease.
Very oversimplified, it would take generations to notice, but still dangerous.
[QUOTE="_dangerman_"][QUOTE="Media_geek20"] The thing is, it reduces the gene pool for future generations, and you get more people in a society with rare hereditary diseases due to inbreeding. The negative effect of inbreeding, though, needs more than just one generation. It usually needs around four or five generations of inbreeding before even the smallest effects take place. However, in can happen after just one generation, but it's really, really rare. Aren't the children in the 1st generation likely to follow in their parents' footsteps? In a society inwhich incestuous marriage is rare or uncommon? I doubt it, since the majority of society marries someone because they love them. For example, FDR married his second cousin, but none of his children practiced incestuoua marriage.
Am I for it? No. However, I do see our society heading in that direction. I mean think about it, every argument used to justify freedom to practice homosexuality and the right to same sex marriage can be used in this case as well.
rimnet00
there are arguments that can be made against incestuous marriage that cannot be made against homosexual marriage, like physically diformed children.
incestuous marriage and gay marriage have nothing in common........your logic fails..... Omni-Slash
What Rimnett basically says is that if we go on the path of accepting stuff like gay marriage, we will 'probably' (that's not true, but some ppl reason black-and-white) end up accepting incestuous marriage aswell. That's why Andyxm figured his post is sort of meant to bash gay marriage
[QUOTE="Media_geek20"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]incestuous marriage and gay marriage have nothing in common........your logic fails..... rimnet00
I don't think that he meant that incestuous marriage and gay marriage are similar, but the reasons to deny or support them are similar. Exactly.well that's wrong.....incestuous marriage deals with a conflict of different types of love which many times leads to psychological issues for all involved much further in life no to mention an increase in risk of birth defects...gay marriage is noithing more than 2 people being attracted to each other......big difference......
Am I for it? No. However, I do see our society heading in that direction. I mean think about it, every argument used to justify freedom to practice homosexuality and the right to same sex marriage can be used in this case as well.
yoshi-lnex
there are arguments that can be made against incestuous marriage that cannot be made against homosexual marriage, like physically diformed children. What about psychologically damaged children born into a same sex marriage? There have been studies on that as well.
[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Media_geek20"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]incestuous marriage and gay marriage have nothing in common........your logic fails..... Omni-Slash
I don't think that he meant that incestuous marriage and gay marriage are similar, but the reasons to deny or support them are similar. Exactly.well that's wrong.....incestuous marriage deals with a conflict of different types of love which many times leads to psychological issues for all involved much further in life no to mention an increase in risk of birth defects...gay marriage is noithing more than 2 people being attracted to each other......big difference...... So, if we prevent them from breeding, its alright? Just have them get a certificate verifying either the female had her tubes tied or the male had a vesectime.
[QUOTE="andyxm"]I feel that your post is not really talking about incestual marriage, but a slander to gays. I really don't appreciate that.ranger_waha
[QUOTE="rimnet00"] So, if we prevent them from breeding, its alright? Just have them get a certificate verifying either the female had her tubes tied or the male had a vesectime. that doesn't end the psychological repercussions........
erm... it's kind of disturbing. I wouldnt be a fan of it, if my friend married her brother. I mean its just kind of... perverse.
However, i was watching a documentry on this about 3 years ago, about a married couple who found out after they were married and had kids that they were in fact brother and sister. They had been split when pretty young and thought they were just old friends meeting up who feel in love. How wrong they were about "friends." Yet they loved each other so much and had happy lives. Is it wrong to split them up? I mean, they didnt know, after all... hmm the questions.
[QUOTE="andyxm"]I feel that your post is not really talking about incestual marriage, but a slander to gays. I really don't appreciate that.Achilles438
whichever one you talk about, they are both wrong and shouldnt be allowed to happen on this planet.
thas your opinion and I respect that, but if that was his intention in the first place, he should have just come right out and said it.
Am I for it? No. However, I do see our society heading in that direction. I mean think about it, every argument used to justify freedom to practice homosexuality and the right to same sex marriage can be used in this case as well.
rimnet00
there are arguments that can be made against incestuous marriage that cannot be made against homosexual marriage, like physically diformed children. What about psychologically damaged children born into a same sex marriage? There have been studies on that as well. I have a feeling they were done by nut job religious groups.....
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="rimnet00"] So, if we prevent them from breeding, its alright? Just have them get a certificate verifying either the female had her tubes tied or the male had a vesectime. that doesn't end the psychological repercussions........ Who's psychological reprecussions? I assume you are refering to the individuals involved in the incest.
Also a quick comment regarding people's feelings about the health of children resulting from incestuous couples. I understand that there are high chances of abnormalities in the child. However, considering that polls are showing an incline in pro-choice, there is an easy solution for these couples. They could simply test to see how their kid is doing, and if the cookie looks like its coming out a little too bitter, just recycle and repeat. Plus, wouldn't it be their right to have deformed kids anyways?Â
Nope. Info is anywhere and everywhere that info is gathered about the ill effects of incest. That's partly the reason why cheetas and jaguars were becoming endangered, on top of the poaching.
Also a quick comment regarding people's feelings about the health of children resulting from incestuous couples. I understand that there are high chances of abnormalities in the child. However, considering that polls are showing an incline in pro-choice, there is an easy solution for these couples. Plus, wouldn't it be their right to have deformed kids anyways? They could simply test to see how their kid is doing, and if the cookie looks like its coming out a little too bitter, just recycle and repeat. rimnet00
The government has no right or say in who you love or what you do in the bed room. If they are both consenting adults and they love each other I don't see the problem. However, they should not be able to have children of there own. Adoption is the best choice for these couples.
[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Also a quick comment regarding people's feelings about the health of children resulting from incestuous couples. I understand that there are high chances of abnormalities in the child. However, considering that polls are showing an incline in pro-choice, there is an easy solution for these couples. Plus, wouldn't it be their right to have deformed kids anyways? They could simply test to see how their kid is doing, and if the cookie looks like its coming out a little too bitter, just recycle and repeat. BranKetra
No they should not be allowed to marry or have sex with blood relatives in any case. -supercharged-
"Why don't you mind your own buisness, it doesn't affect you? You are probably one of those religious fundies arn't you? *insert psuedo-intellectional joke towards the concept of God*"
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