Indie music is just terrible...anyone agree?

I think the whole genre is garbage. Listening to bands like Grizzly Bear, Arcade Fire, Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes, Vampire Weekend,Hugo, ect. justmakes my ears bleed. The only indie band I kinda likeisThe Caesars, mostly because of Jerk it Out.What do you think of the genre?

OP picks a bunch of bands to base his opinion of a diverse and often mislabeled genre as terrible. That Rise Against picture ain't improving the biased musical opinion I know you to have. So no I don't agree...

You guys dont quite get what the word indie means...... It is not a style, it just means that it comes from an independent label and not from a larger more commercial one. The term can be used with folk, rap, metal, dance, electronica, and basically any genre out there if the band is signed to an indie label. The word is being missused and only applied to synth-pop-dancey music these days, but it can be applied to anything. :D

PoorEdward out.

You guys dont quite get what the word indie means...... It is not a style, it just means that it comes from an independent label and not from a larger more commercial one. The term can be used with folk, rap, metal, dance, electronica, and basically any genre out there if the band is signed to an indie label. The word is being missused and only applied to synth-pop-dancey music these days, but it can be applied to anything. :D

PoorEdward out.

PoorEdward

You guys dont quite get what the word indie means...... It is not a style, it just means that it comes from an independent label and not from a larger more commercial one. The term can be used with folk, rap, metal, dance, electronica, and basically any genre out there if the band is signed to an indie label. The word is being missused and only applied to synth-pop-dancey music these days, but it can be applied to anything. :D

PoorEdward out.

PoorEdward

Never got how people don't think its a genre... Indie is definitely a genre, sure the term stemmed from Independent Music, but the association has gone past that in recent years. Its now an interchangeable term between alternative and indie (and all its diverse sub-genres). Some bands may start out on independent labels, but their association with their indie moniker doesn't disappear. The music that most early "indie" bands played took that word to mean a specific style and sound.

I don't really like that many bands that are just indie rock, but if it's a mix of other forms of rock as well as indie, sure I like it.

I disagree

Arcade Fire is freakn awesome.

What are you talking about? Poopfist is the best band ever and they are more indie than the Indianapolis 500.

You guys dont quite get what the word indie means...... It is not a style, it just means that it comes from an independent label and not from a larger more commercial one. The term can be used with folk, rap, metal, dance, electronica, and basically any genre out there if the band is signed to an indie label. The word is being missused and only applied to synth-pop-dancey music these days, but it can be applied to anything. :D

PoorEdward out.

PoorEdward

I disrespectfully disagree.

Well your bands make my ears bleed -_-

That is such a dumb thing to say. Number 1: Indie is not a genre, it means you have not signed amajor label contract. You are independent ("Indie"). Number 2, Im assuming by indie you mean all these post-punk/new wave revival bands. Bloc Party, The Killers, The Strokes, Franz ferdinand, Vaccines, Two door cinema club ect. I am of the total opposite opinion, I love this revival stuff, these bands are writing hits, and I love having bands back in the charts.

I think most "indie" bands are independent for a reason (they aren't good enough to get signed). That being said, there are still many bands who are just starting out and haven't found a major record label yet that are probably pretty good.

I think most "indie" bands are independent for a reason (they aren't good enough to get signed). That being said, there are still many bands who are just starting out and haven't found a major record label yet that are probably pretty good.

redstorm72

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I think most "indie" bands are independent for a reason (they aren't good enough to get signed). That being said, there are still many bands who are just starting out and haven't found a major record label yet that are probably pretty good.

DivergeUnify

I actually argue a similar point- if youre so good, how come youre still indie? Shouldnt everyone love you? If people dont give a damn, they dont give a damn. Hate on all the chart topping artists as much as you want, but they all worked hard to get it. The production is top notch, and so are all the melodies.

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I think most "indie" bands are independent for a reason (they aren't good enough to get signed). That being said, there are still many bands who are just starting out and haven't found a major record label yet that are probably pretty good.

Shmiity

I actually argue a similar point- if youre so good, how come youre still indie? Shouldnt everyone love you? If people dont give a damn, they dont give a damn. Hate on all the chart topping artists as much as you want, but they all worked hard to get it. The production is top notch, and so are all the melodies.

And just to re-emphasize: Hardly any artists at the top of charts touch production. Of course they worked hard- but their values are different. Being "independent" doesn't mean a band is bad, or couldn't change their direction to get on a label. One of the stupidest implications I've ever heard.

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] Yeah because most of the signed, chart-topping bands/artists are just hammering out fantastic music right? DivergeUnify

I actually argue a similar point- if youre so good, how come youre still indie? Shouldnt everyone love you? If people dont give a damn, they dont give a damn. Hate on all the chart topping artists as much as you want, but they all worked hard to get it. The production is top notch, and so are all the melodies.

And just to re-emphasize: Hardly any artists at the top of charts touch production. Of course they worked hard- but their values are different. Being "independent" doesn't mean a band is bad, or couldn't change their direction to get on a label. One of the stupidest implications I've ever heard.

Anybody who writes a song wants people to like it. I hate the whole "You sold out" Thing. Why would you ever want to be indie forever? Dont you want to touch millions of people with your music? Bands who dont go after it all, or who balk at the idea of being mainstream, I dont respect at all. That kind of band is a crappy band. Im not asking anyone to change their direction. Im saying, how can you argue a band is "so good" ifno one likes them? Every band that has been popular has been popular for a reason.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I think most "indie" bands are independent for a reason (they aren't good enough to get signed). That being said, there are still many bands who are just starting out and haven't found a major record label yet that are probably pretty good.

Shmiity

I actually argue a similar point- if youre so good, how come youre still indie? Shouldnt everyone love you?

Not really. Example: The Velvet Underground were nobodies in the 60s. Now they're known as one of the most influential bands ever.

loollolololololol at you. I remember you making a Blue October thread. Sorry buy no,

Arcade Fire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue October/ generic rock station crap

Strongly disagree. Check out Interpol, that is all I have to say.

There's plenty of good indie out there

I don't think they're terrible but I don't like Indie either. I just ignore the Indie artists when I'm searching for new tunes.

Nope not at all. In my opinion all the greatest music out there is Indie.

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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

I actually argue a similar point- if youre so good, how come youre still indie? Shouldnt everyone love you? If people dont give a damn, they dont give a damn. Hate on all the chart topping artists as much as you want, but they all worked hard to get it. The production is top notch, and so are all the melodies.

Shmiity

And just to re-emphasize: Hardly any artists at the top of charts touch production. Of course they worked hard- but their values are different. Being "independent" doesn't mean a band is bad, or couldn't change their direction to get on a label. One of the stupidest implications I've ever heard.

Anybody who writes a song wants people to like it. I hate the whole "You sold out" Thing. Why would you ever want to be indie forever? Dont you want to touch millions of people with your music? Bands who dont go after it all, or who balk at the idea of being mainstream, I dont respect at all. That kind of band is a crappy band. Im not asking anyone to change their direction. Im saying, how can you argue a band is "so good" ifno one likes them? Every band that has been popular has been popular for a reason.

Just because a band can write a simple, catchy song, and has top notch producers to overproduce the s*** out of their music doesn't make the band good.

Neutral Milk Hotel are indie and they have produced one of the best albums of all time.

As with any genre there is good and bad. If one doesn't enjoy the music....that does not make it terrible. Means one doesn't enjoy the genre.

Edit: I don't like the label indie to define a genre just as I don't like the label cIassic rock for a definition. Radio constructs....not genre.

indie isn't a genre people.

Yes obviously

I think hipsters have turned 'indie' into a dirty word. There is more to independent music than trendy pitchfork garbage. I hope people in this thread can realize that.

I dont know if I should even bother with this thread...

Indie still means independent. Just because a few hipster bands try to over take what everyone should be listening to does not make every indie band fit within that formula.

I think hipsters have turned 'indie' into a dirty word. There is more to independent music than trendy pitchfork garbage. I hope people in this thread can realize that.

RushKing

they're not that bad. but i just feel that way about top 40 music. it makes my ears bleed.

As with any genre there is good and bad. If one doesn't enjoy the music....that does not make it terrible. Means one doesn't enjoy the genre.

Edit: I don't like the label indie to define a genre just as I don't like the label cIassic rock for a definition. Radio constructs....not genre.

LJS9502_basic

And what if somebody doesn't enjoy certain music because they think it's terrible?

"Terrible" and "good" do not exist outside of any given person's opinion. "Goodness" and "badness" are just as subjective as enjoyment.

I direct you to:

Friend for a Foe

Eyeshine

Otherwise, i agree they mostly suck.

I don't think all indie is terrible, but I do think that for the most part, good "indie" bands eventually enjoy atleast a modest level of commercial success.