Internet 2, is it true?

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#1 DazedDarkness
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Ok, so my friend said to me that he watched a Youtube video about "Internet 2" and basically that by 2012 they plan to kill the Internet as we know it now, for a new more corporate owned Internet where everything is monitored and basically no freedoms what soever. Is this true? Do any of you think this will happen. I hope not. And he also said that they will make us pay for acess to every website.
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#2 Oleg_Huzwog
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Yeah! Another reason to fear the year 2012!
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#3 zero9167
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It must be true. i mean he found it on youtube!!!
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No the world is going to end in 2012 so they wont be able to do it. The video you watched is about net neutrality right?
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Not even slightly
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#6 Setsa
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No the world is going to end in 2012 so they wont be able to do it. The video you watched is about net neutrality right?xTheExploited
What he said. The Mayans predicted this entire series of events, hence why their calender ends in 2012. By the summer of 2010, global terrorism will have erupted pertaining to the Internet 2, and will continue until the end of 2011, at which humanity's final battle will take place, and the common folk of Internet 1 will fight the aristocracy then known as Internet 2, thus resulting in a virtual battle of such a colossal magnitude the entire world will implode. I have to admit though, those Mayans were smart : /
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#7 markop2003
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The internet 2.0 has already taken off. It's where the generation of the majority of contenet is by users not companies. Web 2.0 sites include Facebook and Wikipedia. . The corporate thing is seperate, it's know as the unneutral internet scheme. On the current neutral scheme oyu and the server both pay for a certain bandwith and that's what yoou get. In the unneutral internet you subscribe to a package of sites which you are given top bandwith to acsess and can't acsess other sites or you can but only extreemely slowly.
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This is impossible. What is going to keep me from uploading bandwidth to other people? Unless they just make it illegal to use the internet. The internet is simply a bunch of connected computers.
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This is impossible. What is going to keep me from uploading bandwidth to other people? Unless they just make it illegal to use the internet. The internet is simply a bunch of connected computers.dmc333
Connected through ISPs which are owned privately....
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no wtf their just gonna be more users using imp6 or whatever it's called
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]The internet 2.0 has already taken off. It's where the generation of the majority of contenet is by users not companies. Web 2.0 sites include Facebook and Wikipedia. . The corporate thing is seperate, it's know as the unneutral internet scheme. On the current neutral scheme oyu and the server both pay for a certain bandwith and that's what yoou get. In the unneutral internet you subscribe to a package of sites which you are given top bandwith to acsess and can't acsess other sites or you can but only extreemely slowly.

Neither of those is Internet2; its a higher bandwidth backbone being set up for university and government use.
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[QUOTE="xaos"] Neither of those is Internet2; its a higher bandwidth backbone being set up for university and government use.

Bingo! That's the only Internet 2 that I know of.
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#13 psn_Jaimzl
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well what happened was about a year ago a video was released stating bell along with 7 other smaller companies that by 2012 (as early as 2010 in north america) you would have to pay access to sites like google wiki msn and such as sort of a package deal. Now what has been brung up is a new type of internet called "the Grid" as of right now it is being used by the military but it is apparently much faster than our internet now. To download a 10 GB file would take seconds as been stated. you can find this info everywhere just google it.
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[QUOTE="dmc333"]This is impossible. What is going to keep me from uploading bandwidth to other people? Unless they just make it illegal to use the internet. The internet is simply a bunch of connected computers.markop2003
Connected through ISPs which are owned privately....

Yes, but if they turn off the internet to what people want, people will simply stop using it. How do people still use torrents, considering almost everything on there is illegal......ISPs still are not stopping people from using them, and it is impossible for them to figure illegal traffic from legal traffic.. It makes them money also. Unless the isps become totally monopolized, we might have a problem. Even then...

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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="dmc333"]This is impossible. What is going to keep me from uploading bandwidth to other people? Unless they just make it illegal to use the internet. The internet is simply a bunch of connected computers.dmc333

Connected through ISPs which are owned privately....

Yes, but if they turn off the internet to what people want, people will simply stop using it. How do people still use torrents, considering almost everything on there is illegal......ISPs still are not stopping people from using them, and it is impossible for them to figure illegal traffic from legal traffic.. It makes them money also. Unless the isps become totally monopolized, we might have a problem. Even then...

thats y they started using isp limits since it's obvious the people who are downloading games,movies and music will require more banthweith
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omg i knew it. i knew i wasn't going crazy.
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Ok, so my friend said to me that he watched a Youtube video about "Internet 2" and basically that by 2012 they plan to kill the Internet as we know it now, for a new more corporate owned Internet where everything is monitored and basically no freedoms what soever. Is this true? Do any of you think this will happen. I hope not. And he also said that they will make us pay for acess to every website.DazedDarkness

well there it is, internet 2 is going to be the cause of the worlds end in 2012

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#18 Link256
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Last I heard, it was called "The Grid."

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[QUOTE="dmc333"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"] Connected through ISPs which are owned privately....kemar7856

Yes, but if they turn off the internet to what people want, people will simply stop using it. How do people still use torrents, considering almost everything on there is illegal......ISPs still are not stopping people from using them, and it is impossible for them to figure illegal traffic from legal traffic.. It makes them money also. Unless the isps become totally monopolized, we might have a problem. Even then...

thats y they started using isp limits since it's obvious the people who are downloading games,movies and music will require more banthweith

That is why I use a smaller local isp, instead of one like time warner who is in the movie business:roll:. Plus, if they are going to limit me to the web technology of 1995, I might as well go back to 56k. Plus with voip and youtube alowing dvd quality videos. The limits are going to have to be atleast be 100gb a month, or they will be getting a lot of complaints. People will simply stop using it.

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The only relevant thing I heard about this was that by 2012 the internet will die by itself anyway, at least in the UK it will. The wires used to carry the information were originally used for telephones, not the internet. And because the internet keeps expanding, it will eventually collapse on itself by 2012. Fibre Optic broadband is the way to go, because it can hold more bandwidth (or something like that). But in order to provide Fibe Optic for the entire UK would take around 2 years and cost a lot of money. I did read this a fair while ago (a few months) in a newspaper, so maybe it's changed since then.
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The only relevant thing I heard about this was that by 2012 the internet will die by itself anyway, at least in the UK it will. The wires used to carry the information were originally used for telephones, not the internet. And because the internet keeps expanding, it will eventually collapse on itself by 2012. Fibre Optic broadband is the way to go, because it can hold more bandwidth (or something like that). But in order to provide Fibe Optic for the entire UK would take around 2 years and cost a lot of money. I did read this a fair while ago (a few months) in a newspaper, so maybe it's changed since then.Murj
Haw haw; I've been hearing "doom of the internet imminent!" since circa 1996; we were supposed to run out of IPv4 address space nearly a decade ago, and yet...
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#22 rom11
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Of course it's true... wtf :O
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Thats not true either. 2012 is the year of great change... Not the end of.. .earth
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[QUOTE="Murj"]The only relevant thing I heard about this was that by 2012 the internet will die by itself anyway, at least in the UK it will. The wires used to carry the information were originally used for telephones, not the internet. And because the internet keeps expanding, it will eventually collapse on itself by 2012. Fibre Optic broadband is the way to go, because it can hold more bandwidth (or something like that). But in order to provide Fibe Optic for the entire UK would take around 2 years and cost a lot of money. I did read this a fair while ago (a few months) in a newspaper, so maybe it's changed since then.xaos
Haw haw; I've been hearing "doom of the internet imminent!" since circa 1996; we were supposed to run out of IPv4 address space nearly a decade ago, and yet...

That's only because of the software measures put in place such as NAT and CIDR. Without these measures, the space would have indeed run out long ago. The problem with the rolling out of IPv6 is that it requires changes to the data link and physical layers of the model. Whereas NAT and CIDR are mostly software changes in the session layer, but these measures are only temporary, never intended to be long term solution. With the introduction of IPv6, CIDR should be eliminated, NAT will be kept because of the security properties and we'll have (I think) 256 seperate IP addresses for every square metre of the earth's surface. That should be enough :P
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Ok, so my friend said to me that he watched a Youtube video about "Internet 2" and basically that by 2012 they plan to kill the Internet as we know it now, for a new more corporate owned Internet where everything is monitored and basically no freedoms what soever. Is this true? Do any of you think this will happen. I hope not. And he also said that they will make us pay for acess to every website.DazedDarkness

I bolded the things in your statement that prove it's false.