Internet being monitored 24/7 ?

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#1 Welis
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I spoke to a friend on Skype yesterday and he told me about a new mechanic that has been implemented to internet and phones. It is said that you are being monitored 24/7 of whatever you are doing. For instance, he said that he recommended me to start using proxy servers, since whatever sites I am on for instance, say a adult site or download site or whatever they register it (And I don't know who "they" are). I am not sure if he is trolling or not, but it doesn't seem official or new to me.


Anyone have any idea?

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#2 YellowOneKinobi
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I basically operate under the presumption that anything/everything I do on-line is stored somewhere for potential review by "big brother."

As for this specific thing you are talking about, I can't say I've heard anything.

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#3 xXDrPainXx
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ISP's keep logs of all this anyways so really shouldn't be surprising to any. I can even watch people's browsing habits through my works FireEye and Netsite.
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#4 Welis
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So what you guys are saying is that there's nothing to worry about? He said that the safest way not to get "caught" is using VPN, so you can visit sites more "privately" without registering or being monitored by "the other".
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#5 LustForSoul
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All your history of webbrowsing is saved somewhere. If the state wants to track your stuff they can, but you're not being monitored. There's a gazillion internet users.
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#6 urdead18
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This has always been the case.

It's not like they have 500 million people watching everyone's internet sessions as they happen, but "they", as in your ISP, can see every site you've been to and everything you've downloaded.

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#7 Bladecutter56
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This has always been the case.

It's not like they have 500 million people watching everyone's internet sessions as they happen, but "they", as in your ISP, can see every site you've been to and everything you've downloaded.

urdead18

Uh oh.

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#8 Cloud_765
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It doesn't matter if someone's watching. What matters is if you know them, or they know you.
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#9 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="urdead18"]

This has always been the case.

It's not like they have 500 million people watching everyone's internet sessions as they happen, but "they", as in your ISP, can see every site you've been to and everything you've downloaded.

Bladecutter56

Uh oh.

Well, the disk capacity required to store every URL requested through every IP address would grow tremendously large very quickly.

If ISPs do store that sort of information, they probably don't keep it for very long.

What's more frightening is the possibility that apparently independent sites of a controversial nature may be recording the IP addresses of their visitors for submission to the FBI (or equivalent government agency elsewhere in the world).

ISPs DO keep the relationship between IP addresses and user accounts, so the FBI CAN link data subpoenaed from ISPs with data from "honeypot sites" to deduce the identities of people who visited those sites.

I swear, this is why I just don't go near "the site that may not be named" any longer. I saw far too many obviously illegal images being posted there and have never really been able to convince myself that the site couldn't possibly be a huge FBI sting in the making.

:shock:

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I think this is only an issue if you search for key words, or if you're doing something illegal enough for your ISP to dig your history up. Obviously you shouldn't be googling things like "How to bomb the White House" or "Homemade Nuclear Bombs" because no-one really needs to know said things...unless they're for bad reasons.
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#11 Necrifer
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Yeah, I think everything on the internet and phones is being monitored. All of your history is definitely kept track of by your provider. Same thing with phones. There's nothing to worry about unless you're a terrorist.

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#12 Cloud_765
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Yeah, I think everything on the internet and phones is being monitored. All of your history is definitely kept track of by your provider. Same thing with phones. There's nothing to worry about unless you're a terrorist.

Necrifer
Or really self-conscious but look at too much porn.
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#13 yahtzo900
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I don't think some random person is going to care if your on an "adult" site. Maybe if you are downloading stuff illegaly then you might have a reason to be scared.

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they can log your activity but lets be honest.. you're not that interesting and they really don't care...
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#15 JigglyWiggly_
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HAI GAISE LET ME GET OVER 9000000000 ppl to watch your internet traffic bcuz we have nothing bettar to do Really now, they have logs of your traffic, what they store is up to them. They are probably just collecting links clicked, stuff like that, ports, packets, they can't be wasting too much proccesing power on the CMTS just for your stupid info.
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#16 Pixel-Pirate
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ISP's log stuff, yes. Google knows every single thing you do if you use chrome. However is anyone looking over this stuff? Chances are, no. Even I, as a paranoid individual, realize the amount of people that use the internet and the amount of people which would be required to individually monitor every person. It just isn't feasible. Your stuff may be recorded, it probably is. But it's alot like your kindergarten permaenent record. No one is going to bother looking at it.
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#17 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]I think this is only an issue if you search for key words, or if you're doing something illegal enough for your ISP to dig your history up. Obviously you shouldn't be googling things like "How to bomb the White House" or "Homemade Nuclear Bombs" because no-one really needs to know said things...unless they're for bad reasons.

Even then your ISP generally doesn't care. They'd only look it up if the authorities came over and told them to. They really don't have the time to deal with individuals who clicked on a tinyurl search for something bad.
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#18 DeepSigh
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[QUOTE="Bladecutter56"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"]

This has always been the case.

It's not like they have 500 million people watching everyone's internet sessions as they happen, but "they", as in your ISP, can see every site you've been to and everything you've downloaded.

Stesilaus

Uh oh.

I swear, this is why I just don't go near "the site that may not be named" any longer. I saw far too many obviously illegal images being posted there and have never really been able to convince myself that the site couldn't possibly be a huge FBI sting in the making.

:shock:

Even if that was the case, you're not savin' or postin' it. Don't see how you could get in trouble.

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#19 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Bladecutter56"]

Uh oh.

DeepSigh

I swear, this is why I just don't go near "the site that may not be named" any longer. I saw far too many obviously illegal images being posted there and have never really been able to convince myself that the site couldn't possibly be a huge FBI sting in the making.

:shock:

Even if that was the case, you're not savin' or postin' it. Don't see how you could get in trouble.

It would be saved in your internet cache. But really the FBI doesn't even have the time to go after people who willingly save such things, let alone some poor schmuck who saw a thumbnail.
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#20 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Bladecutter56"]

Uh oh.

DeepSigh

I swear, this is why I just don't go near "the site that may not be named" any longer. I saw far too many obviously illegal images being posted there and have never really been able to convince myself that the site couldn't possibly be a huge FBI sting in the making.

:shock:

Even if that was the case, you're not savin' or postin' it. Don't see how you could get in trouble.

Keeping no copy of an illegal image is NOT enough to keep you out of trouble. :(

I'm too lazy to do a web search for the relevant stories, but trust me: there have been precedent-setting cases of people being indicted and convicted just for downloading underage erotica from FBI entrapment sites.

Again, though, such material is probably downloaded by so many people that the FBI can only pursue a small fraction of the worst offenders.

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#21 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="DeepSigh"]

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I swear, this is why I just don't go near "the site that may not be named" any longer. I saw far too many obviously illegal images being posted there and have never really been able to convince myself that the site couldn't possibly be a huge FBI sting in the making.

:shock:

Stesilaus

Even if that was the case, you're not savin' or postin' it. Don't see how you could get in trouble.

Keeping no copy of an illegal image is NOT enough to keep you out of trouble. :(

I'm too lazy to do a web search for the relevant stories, but trust me: there have been precedent-setting cases of people being indicted and convicted just for downloading underage erotica from FBI entrapment sites.

Again, though, such material is probably downloaded by so many people that the FBI can only pursue a small fraction of the worst offenders.

Willing downloading it, yes. Which would mean clicking on the image and clicking save as. The FBI does not have time or really authority to arrest someone who clicked on a tinyurl to a site with an illegal thumbnail. Law does not work that way. Goodnight.
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#22 RenegadePatriot
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It's easy to track what you do in anything you do really, its not that easy to live off the grid.