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#1 rimnet00
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This is a very interesting move by Tehran. It's going to be interesting to see how the price per barrel is going to be effected by this news today. The big question is... how many other OPEC and non-OPEC countries will follow suit?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/04/30/iran.oil.ap/index.html

Iran dumps U.S. dollar for oil trades

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran, OPEC's second-largest producer, has stopped conducting oil transactions in U.S. dollars, a top Oil Ministry official said Wednesday, in a concerted attempt to reduce reliance on Washington at a time of tension over Tehran's nuclear program and suspected involvement in Iraq.

Iran has dramatically reduced dependence on the dollar over the past year in the face of increasing U.S. pressure on its financial system and the fall in the value of the American currency.

Oil is priced in dollars on the world market, and the currency's depreciation has concerned producers because it has contributed to rising crude prices and eroded the value of their dollar reserves.

"The dollar has totally been removed from Iran's oil transactions," Oil Ministry official Hojjatollah Ghanimifard told state-run television Wednesday. "We have agreed with all of our crude oil customers to do our transactions in non-dollar currencies."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the depreciating dollar a "worthless piece of paper" at a rare summit last year in Saudi Arabia attended by state leaders from OPEC countries.

Iran put pressure on other OPEC countries at the meeting to price oil in a basket of currencies, but it has not been able to generate support from fellow members -- many of whom, including Saudi Arabia, are staunch U.S. allies.

Iran has a tense relationship with the U.S., which has accused Tehran of using its nuclear program as a cover for weapons development and providing support to Shiite militants in Iraq that are killing American troops. Iran has denied the allegations.

Iranian oil officials have said previously that they were shifting oil sales out of the dollar into other currencies, but Ghanimifard indicated Wednesday that all of Iran's oil transactions were now conducted in either the euro or yen.

"In Europe, Iran's oil is sold in euros, but both euros and yen are paid for Iranian crude in Asia," said Ghanimifard.

Iran's central bank has also been reducing its foreign reserves denominated in dollars, motivated by the falling value of the greenback and U.S. attempts to make it difficult for Iran to conduct dollar transactions.

U.S. banks are prohibited from conducting business directly with Iran, and many European banks have curbed their dealings with the country over the past year under pressure from Washington.

However, the U.S. has been wary of targeting Iran's oil industry directly, apparently worried that such a move could drive up crude prices that are already at record levels.

Iranian analysts say Tehran can withstand U.S. pressure as long as it can continue its oil and gas sales, which constitute most of the country's $80 billion in exports.

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#2 The_Ish
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No one's fault but ours.

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#3 MattUD1
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No small wonder, what with the dollar being in the shape it's in.
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#4 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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So now they're dealing in both Euros and Yen?

Hmm, it'll be interesting to see how the other OPEC nations will react to this.

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#5 Napster06
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I don't think it'll effect the global market greatly, since the demand for oil is increasing every day.
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#6 Lakin0817
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Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping.
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Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817

Far from collasping..... :roll:

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Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817
Someone jumped the gun..
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worthless piece of paper lol

atleast US has roads...

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worthless piece of paper lol

atleast US has roads...

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Haha... Can't wait to blow my nose with it!

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I say we go to war!
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Well, this is a fun little development. I'm curious to see the future impact of this. I have a feeling that it will not be good in the end though.
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#13 rimnet00
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worthless piece of paper lol

atleast US has roads...

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.... Iran is far more advanced then Iraq. Even Iraq has roads.

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Oh boy can't wait for that 5$ a gallon this summer.
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#15 FLzthvikings87
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If we were to recover from this, how long exactly do you think it would take? By recover i meant he obvious recession the USA is in.

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#16 rimnet00
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If we were to recover from this, how long exactly do you think it would take? By recover i meant he obvious recession the USA is in.

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That's totally unpredictable. We may never recover. Ce la vi.

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That's totally unpredictable. We may never recover. Ce la vi. rimnet00
there's a possibility we won't but throughout our history the economy has never failed to get stronger over the long term.....so assuming it won't is a pretty big stretch.....
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[QUOTE="FLzthvikings87"]

If we were to recover from this, how long exactly do you think it would take? By recover i meant he obvious recession the USA is in.

rimnet00

That's totally unpredictable. We may never recover. Ce la vi.

Please we will recover, the economy always fixes itself, we have the type of economy that sees resonable amount of recessions and expansions. I'm far from worried about it, its just that way too many people get carried away and panic.

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Please we will recover, the economy always fixes itself, we have the type of economy that sees resonable amount of recessions and expansions. I'm far from worried about it, its just that way too many people get carried away and panic.

xscrapzx

though for the major recessions only a major war seems to kickstart the economy.

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#20 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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If the US would drill it's own oil, and/or reopen the SFC, this wouldn't be an issue.
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If the US would drill it's own oil, and/or reopen the SFC, this wouldn't be an issue.LukeAF24

Exactly how I feel.

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That's totally unpredictable. We may never recover. Ce la vi.

rimnet00

Economy varies and will recover again.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]If the US would drill it's own oil, and/or reopen the SFC, this wouldn't be an issue.InterpolWilco

Exactly how I feel.

I assume you also feel irate that the US is dragging it's feet about it?

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Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817

the economy still grew last quarter. how is that to the point of collapsing?

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#25 RKfromDownunder
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Wow thats a pretty serious move actually...

Clever though. I don't like their regime but it seems like they have some major kajoles down their with the way they are playing dice with the worlds security.

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[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"]

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]If the US would drill it's own oil, and/or reopen the SFC, this wouldn't be an issue.LukeAF24

Exactly how I feel.

I assume you also feel irate that the US is dragging it's feet about it?

Extremely. Its very frustrating.

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#27 bryan2020
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Thats what she said .
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#28 Soulkiller225
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Well we can bomb them and steal their oil. I mean one Nike and we kill Iran and boom we scare everyone in to giving their oil to us.
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Iran has been doing its transactions in Euros and Yen for a while and we really need to start drilling for are own oil.

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[QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. darkfox101
Someone jumped the gun..

Gas is at an all time high. The housing market is trash. Crime is higher now than it ever has been. Prisons have the highest population in years. Unemployment is at record highs. We have more people sneaking into our country than ever. The price of gold is sky high, cuz the US dollar is falling. We aren't good with the UN. We are at war with one country, possibly two more in the near future. Our morals and integrity are at an all time low. Wake up people, how many more signs do you need? Just sit there and play your video games and wonder what happened when it does collapse.

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[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817

Someone jumped the gun..[/QUOTE

Gas is at an all time high. The housing market is trash. Crime is higher now than it ever has been. Prisons have the highest population in years. Unemployment is at record highs. We have more people sneaking into our country than ever. The price of gold is sky high, cuz the US dollar is falling. We aren't good with the UN. We are at war with one country, possibly two more in the near future. Our morals and integrity are at an all time low. Wake up people, how many more signs do you need? Just sit there and play your video games and wonder what happened when it does collapse.

Crime not higher now that it has ever been - If more people are going to prison then its because more people are getting caught

Unemployment at record highs? Oh really its 40%+ like in the 30s? no

Population in prisons has no significant economical effect

Price of gold doesnt fluctuate, its always the same, thats why people invest in gold if they dont trust a currency

No being "good" with the UN has no real economic effect

Morals and Integrity at al all time low? How do you measure this? tell me... and tell me about the economic effects

You realize what its gonna take to collapse an economy? how old are you kid? we entering a recession, these happen around every decade, get over it

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#32 helium_flash
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That certainly isn't good. IMO, the primary reason would should get off oil is so we dont have to deal with situations like these where a pathetic country has us by the balls, and we can't do anything about it.

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[QUOTE="Lakin0817"]

[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. hormagaunt

Someone jumped the gun..[/QUOTE

Gas is at an all time high. The housing market is trash. Crime is higher now than it ever has been. Prisons have the highest population in years. Unemployment is at record highs. We have more people sneaking into our country than ever. The price of gold is sky high, cuz the US dollar is falling. We aren't good with the UN. We are at war with one country, possibly two more in the near future. Our morals and integrity are at an all time low. Wake up people, how many more signs do you need? Just sit there and play your video games and wonder what happened when it does collapse.

Crime not higher now that it has ever been - If more people are going to prison then its because more people are getting caught

Unemployment at record highs? Oh really its 40%+ like in the 30s? no

Population in prisons has no significant economical effect

Price of gold doesnt fluctuate, its always the same, thats why people invest in gold if they dont trust a currency

No being "good" with the UN has no real economic effect

Morals and Integrity at al all time low? How do you measure this? tell me... and tell me about the economic effects

You realize what its gonna take to collapse an economy? how old are you kid? we entering a recession, these happen around every decade, get over it

You must live in Mexico clown, where the heck have you been the last ten years. You need to check your facts. The point of the prison population being so high is crime and unemployment is up. You are living in a bubble. I'm 35 by the way.
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#34 gth833s
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so you have an alternative to oil?
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[QUOTE="hormagaunt"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]

[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817

Someone jumped the gun..[/QUOTE

Gas is at an all time high. The housing market is trash. Crime is higher now than it ever has been. Prisons have the highest population in years. Unemployment is at record highs. We have more people sneaking into our country than ever. The price of gold is sky high, cuz the US dollar is falling. We aren't good with the UN. We are at war with one country, possibly two more in the near future. Our morals and integrity are at an all time low. Wake up people, how many more signs do you need? Just sit there and play your video games and wonder what happened when it does collapse.

Crime not higher now that it has ever been - If more people are going to prison then its because more people are getting caught

Unemployment at record highs? Oh really its 40%+ like in the 30s? no

Population in prisons has no significant economical effect

Price of gold doesnt fluctuate, its always the same, thats why people invest in gold if they dont trust a currency

No being "good" with the UN has no real economic effect

Morals and Integrity at al all time low? How do you measure this? tell me... and tell me about the economic effects

You realize what its gonna take to collapse an economy? how old are you kid? we entering a recession, these happen around every decade, get over it

You must live in Mexico clown, where the heck have you been the last ten years. You need to check your facts. The point of the prison population being so high is crime and unemployment is up. You are living in a bubble. I'm 35 by the way.

Oops I was wrong, you're from south africa, my mistake. You guys know all about the US economy.

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[QUOTE="InterpolWilco"]

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]If the US would drill it's own oil, and/or reopen the SFC, this wouldn't be an issue.LukeAF24

Exactly how I feel.

I assume you also feel irate that the US is dragging it's feet about it?

if this turns into a big issue, were either gonna goto war or start drilling in our own borders i think

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[QUOTE="hormagaunt"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]

[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817

Someone jumped the gun..[/QUOTE

Gas is at an all time high. The housing market is trash. Crime is higher now than it ever has been. Prisons have the highest population in years. Unemployment is at record highs. We have more people sneaking into our country than ever. The price of gold is sky high, cuz the US dollar is falling. We aren't good with the UN. We are at war with one country, possibly two more in the near future. Our morals and integrity are at an all time low. Wake up people, how many more signs do you need? Just sit there and play your video games and wonder what happened when it does collapse.

Crime not higher now that it has ever been - If more people are going to prison then its because more people are getting caught

Unemployment at record highs? Oh really its 40%+ like in the 30s? no

Population in prisons has no significant economical effect

Price of gold doesnt fluctuate, its always the same, thats why people invest in gold if they dont trust a currency

No being "good" with the UN has no real economic effect

Morals and Integrity at al all time low? How do you measure this? tell me... and tell me about the economic effects

You realize what its gonna take to collapse an economy? how old are you kid? we entering a recession, these happen around every decade, get over it

You must live in Mexico clown, where the heck have you been the last ten years. You need to check your facts. The point of the prison population being so high is crime and unemployment is up. You are living in a bubble. I'm 35 by the way.

The crime rate has been decreasing since 1993. :?

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[QUOTE="darkfox101"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Better buy a gun ladies. The american economy is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of collasping. Lakin0817

Someone jumped the gun..

Gas is at an all time high.

Oil prices were higher in the 80's, actually.

The housing market is trash.

Depends where you live. Here, it's actually growing.

Crime is higher now than it ever has been.

Crime is actually down over the last 30+ years.

Prisons have the highest population in years.

How is putting bad guys in jail a bad thing?

Unemployment is at record highs.

Being realistic, 4% unemployment isn't even close to a high. It has been declining since the early 90's. And at 10% as recently as Carter's term.

We have more people sneaking into our country than ever.

Indeed that is a problem.

The price of gold is sky high, cuz the US dollar is falling.

Prices of gold are relative to inflation.

We aren't good with the UN.

Who cares?

We are at war with one country, possibly two more in the near future.

We were already fighting two wars, last time I checked.

Our morals and integrity are at an all time low.

Matter of opinion.

Wake up people, how many more signs do you need? Just sit there and play your video games and wonder what happened when it does collapse.

You're talking to a bunch of 15 year old, what do you expect?

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#39 remmbermytitans
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I think we need to stop using oil. Not because of global warming, but because oil is FUNDING the Middle East, if we stop funding them, then they stop funding terrorists, (the countries that do). Removing oil from our lives is the key to America's survival.
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#40 Lakin0817
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You're talking to a bunch of 15 year old, what do you expect?

LukeAF24

True, but if anyone here thinks that our market is as strong as it was in the 80's your kidding yourself. Morality affects the economy imo. How can it not. People will lie cheat and steal, why do they do all this, for money. If the family breaks down, so will the country.

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#42 Truth_Seekr
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lol

I've been mentioning this for quite awhile now!!!!
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26337486&msg_id=300422419#300422419

Next thing you know, we will claim that Iran has WMDs and try to invade them, just like Iraq, for the exact same reason(switching to Euro market)

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#43 NaiKoN9293
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oh lol. iran's getting invaded now. 'MERICA!!! **** YEAH!!! STEALIN' UR OILS!!! WINNING YOUR FREEDOM!!! **** YEAH!! 'MERICA!!!!!!!
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holy krap. i hope Norway doesn't do this. I don't want to get invaded :cry:
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#45 shoeman12
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Iran has been doing its transactions in Euros and Yen for a while and we really need to start drilling for are own oil.

KillaHalo2o9

i agree. we should have been drilling more of our own oil years ago.

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#46 ElectronicMagic
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That is a good move by Iran. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States has become extremely arrogant(probably was already though). Without that other big kid on the block, there is no one to keep things in balance. So poor little kids with just their lunch money like Iran have to stand up to the big bully. Hopefully we can get back into another cold war. Here's to hoping that China will be that other big kid.
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lol

I've been mentioning this for quite awhile now!!!!
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26337486&msg_id=300422419#300422419

Next thing you know, we will claim that Iran has WMDs and try to invade them, just like Iraq, for the exact same reason(switching to Euro market)

Truth_Seekr

Do you seriously believe this?

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#48 Truth_Seekr
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[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

lol

I've been mentioning this for quite awhile now!!!!
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26337486&msg_id=300422419#300422419

Next thing you know, we will claim that Iran has WMDs and try to invade them, just like Iraq, for the exact same reason(switching to Euro market)

jointed

Do you seriously believe this?

Well, wasn't that the reason we went into Iraq?

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#49 freddy457
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For the INNOCENT HERE ...

Saddam Threatened this as UN was talking at height off troubles ...

next day CIA/MI6 found a document that Iraq had wmd at 60 min major death rates ...ALL LIES

I wonder now Iran sell oil in euro good for us Euro people but it bursts the USA Economy is built on oil barrells an dollar prices

I think Bush will find *Anti -World -Goblins* in Iran an Invade ... an its your bros an sis in the *Wonderful Military* who fight another false oil war ...

I knew this was coming ... an Iran will be the major wmd supplier tooo er ... ... .... ?

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#50 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

lol

I've been mentioning this for quite awhile now!!!!
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26337486&msg_id=300422419#300422419

Next thing you know, we will claim that Iran has WMDs and try to invade them, just like Iraq, for the exact same reason(switching to Euro market)

Truth_Seekr

Do you seriously believe this?

Well, wasn't that the reason we went into Iraq?

No, it wasn't...

And do you really expect the next president to be as foolish as the Bush Administration?