Is Alice in Wonderland supposed to be a dark series?

I always thought of this as a Disney movie, and it was in Kingdom Hearts. A nice, friendly G rated movie, just like Thumbalina, Snow White, Aladdin, and such... But then I looked up Alice in Wonderland (1996), and it said it explores the darker themes of the novel. So there's novels? How many, and are they actually for young adults? Because, I don't know, the idea of it always just seemed like it was meant to be for kids, but maybe I'm wrong. Plus, there's American McGee's Alice.

Alice in Wonderland was always a demented story.

now it is.chAzN93

Tim Burton is going to ruin it.

it's a very well known fact that the whole thing was inspired by drugs and that the author used them in creating it. so i would say so. Of course there are many different ways to interpret it. Disney made it for kids and Tim burton will make it for Goths.

The movie was based on two books. The books weren't nearly as happy and "Disney" as that cartoon, but they weren't completely dark and demented either. Imagine a frequent drug user writing a children's book to convey the frustrations of growing up. That's Alice in Wonderland.guynamedbilly

No wonder the cartoon reminded me of an acid trip.

I think you can interpret them how you want, but I think its quite a dark story.

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[QUOTE="chAzN93"]now it is.10thwonder

Children's Story tales were dark in the old days as a means of discplining children and showing harsh consequences.

Alice in Wonderland takes it one step further and can be seen as a brutal critic of society at the time (The Mad Hatter and Lead Poisoning) and the struggle of classes and democracy.

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That was awesome.

I always thought of this as a Disney movie

DeathScape666

Well, that's the first problem. :P

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, the title of the original book by Lewis Carroll, was never a particularly lighthearted story. The Tim Burton movie is more just taking it back to its roots, roots which have become obscure due to the association everyone has between the story and the Disney version of it.

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]now it is.10thwonder

Tim Burton is going to ruin it.

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Can't wait to see it. I remember I used to watch the disney film over and over as a kid. So it will be cool to see how Tim Burton's version will be.

I've always seen it as a dark series due to it having some odd and demented stuff in it.

Children's Story tales were dark in the old days as a means of discplining children and showing harsh consequences.

Alice in Wonderland takes it one step further and can be seen as a brutal critic of society at the time (The Mad Hatter and Lead Poisoning) and the struggle of classes and democracy.

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[QUOTE="chAzN93"]now it is.chAzN93

Tim Burton is going to ruin it.

Children's Story tales were dark in the old days as a means of discplining children and showing harsh consequences.

Alice in Wonderland takes it one step further and can be seen as a brutal critic of society at the time (The Mad Hatter and Lead Poisoning) and the struggle of classes and democracy.

Alice in wonderland is debated to be one massive drug trip the author recorded, that might answer your question.

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]now it is.10thwonder

Tim Burton is going to ruin it.

The two sides of Alice in Wonderland are really weird, its as ifthe auther had Schizophrinia or something.

Tim Burton has always been a sort of love-it-or-hate-it/hit-or-miss kind of thing. For example, Planet of the Apes was abhorred, Batman was adored, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was divisive, and people were kind of stupid about Sweeney Todd.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Tim Burton has always been a sort of love-it-or-hate-it/hit-or-miss kind of thing. For example, Planet of the Apes was abhorred, Batman was adored, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was divisive, and people were kind of stupid about Sweeney Todd.lolwotrickroll

Most fairytales are pretty dark, Disney's versions were usually waaaay toned down from the original.

Seriously, have you read the original Little Mermaid? That **** is ****ed up.

[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Tim Burton has always been a sort of love-it-or-hate-it/hit-or-miss kind of thing. For example, Planet of the Apes was abhorred, Batman was adored, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was divisive, and people were kind of stupid about Sweeney Todd.PannicAtack

I don't know if I'd call it "dark". To me it has always been a psychedelic adventure of crazy.

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[QUOTE="chAzN93"]now it is.chAzN93

Tim Burton is going to ruin it.

True that. :P

This thread makes me want to go read and look up all the original fairytale books. :P

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] I thought Sweeny Todd was amazing. I loved that movie. I do agree with you though. he either aces a movie, or completely misses the target. I have confidence that he's going to make Alice in Wonderland the movie it should of been.lolwotrickroll

Most fairytales are pretty dark, Disney's versions were usually waaaay toned down from the original.

Seriously, have you read the original Little Mermaid? That **** is ****ed up.

metroidfood

That story made me cringe and grossed me out. :lol:

Disney really did do some massive changes to that story.