Is America the greatest country in the world?

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#1 Pixel-Pirate
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This topic is mainly aimed at Americans, but I'm interested in the responses. I see alot of people always saying "This is the greatest country ever!" and I'm just curious, do you agree that America is the best country in the world?

I haven't been to every other country in the world so I cannot say with certainty. While it may be one of the best, I don't exactly think it is the best.

Your thoughts?

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#2 General_X
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As an American I don't think one can set a reasonable benchmark for "greatest country in the world." Every country has problems, the only thing that really matters is whether you enjoy/are comfortable living in the country. Personally I love the USA and am happy that I live here, but I know for a fact that there are other countries with just as many positive traits.
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#3 Willo_10
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Im an Australian, sorry :P

But, I have been too America and Europe. My personal preference is a country like Australia or Canada. But I guess it depends on what factors you use to determine 'best'. America is the wealthiest, strongest and most influential nation in the world. So by those standards, yes the US is the greatest. In the end, I dont think its possible to determine the best country when looking at it objectively.

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#4 shani_boy101
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No. I've been there and while it's a good country, it doesn't use the metric system. therefore it fails.

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#5 General_X
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No. I've been there and while it's a good country, it doesn't use the metric system. therefore it fails.

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Bah, how dare you use such an easy to convert system. A true measurement system must first be incredibly convoluted and hard to convert into other units :P
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#6 CBR600-RR
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It looks good to me, mainly because it's cheap. Canada looks beautiful but I'm sure there's more beautiful places, like New Zealand and the Seychelles.

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#7 Adrianstalker
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It would be if Brazil never existed

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#8 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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Needs a Canada vote imo.
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#9 rook2rook
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i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

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#10 1KyardStare
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This topic is mainly aimed at Americans, but I'm interested in the responses. I see alot of people always saying "This is the greatest country ever!" and I'm just curious, do you agree that America is the best country in the world?

I haven't been to every other country in the world so I cannot say with certainty. While it may be one of the best, I don't exactly think it is the best.

Your thoughts?

Pixel-Pirate

It is a great country, greatest is a hard claim to make though. The opportunities for every person in the US to be successful is greater than most every other country, I'm not talking UK, Australia, and the like. Those countries are the few and not the majority, too many other countries keep their populations restricted either through strict rules, a caste system, outright oppression,and even indebted servitude.

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i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

rook2rook

Awesomely constructed and elaborated point

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i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

rook2rook

I think its time to take off the tinfoil hat, come down off the roof and hand over the bat.

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#13 Hippie_Harvest
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I can't say.. I would have to travel the world first.
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#14 rook2rook
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[QUOTE="rook2rook"]

i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

Adrianstalker

Awesomely constructed and elaborated point

bro am just drunk but i think theres going too set this stuff of is disclosure.

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#15 General_X
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[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

[QUOTE="rook2rook"]

i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

rook2rook

Awesomely constructed and elaborated point

bro am just drunk but i think theres going too set this stuff of is disclosure.

Tried running that sentence through translation party to see if it made more sense: "However, my friend, full disclosure, I believe theres a complete set." Unfortunately it didn't help.
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#16 GabuEx
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Well, that would kind of depend on one's definition of "greatest". It has by far the largest economy in the world. It spends by far the most of any country on defense, has the most military equipment, and has one of the world's largest armed forces. On the other hand, its life expectancy isn't great, and there are many countries with a higher standard of education and a higher quality of living. So the followup question to be asked is really, "What do you consider important in a great country?"

I can't help but be reminded of this, though. :P

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#17 S1MSTA
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Scotland is obvisouly the greatest country in the world.So obvious it doesn't need an explanation.

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#18 CrisisFrmTheSky
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Subjective question is subjective!

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#19 surrealnumber5
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it was, but now there are no top dogs. its fall started with clinton and his home acts, was continued by bush and the patriot act, and the final thrust from greatness came with obama and his healthcare act
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#20 CBR600-RR
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[QUOTE="rook2rook"]

i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

Willo_10

I think its time to take off the tinfoil hat, come down off the roof and hand over the bat.

It's ignorant to call him a conspiracy theorist, I suggest you research loads about the NWO before you make assumptions. I'm not taking his side as I'm not a believer of the NWO, but from a lot of the things I've read it's convincing, I'll never believe it until it happens completely. It's a huge process.

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#21 ShuichiChamp24
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I don't know about the greatest, but I sure love to visit there when I can.

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#22 surrealnumber5
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I don't know about the greatest, but I sure love to visit there when I can.

ShuichiChamp24
where here? we have a lot of nice places and a lot of crapholes
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#23 PeaceChild90
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[QUOTE="Willo_10"]

[QUOTE="rook2rook"]

i believe in my own that america is going to lead the one world order they are going to lead the way for slaves for the work just like they lead in the moste over populated prisons in the world so there going to use US as a start for one world order the the ones in prison have no name so they will start there and move on to every day living so to take the mark but if i think its the great NO there just leading the fail.

CBR600-RR

I think its time to take off the tinfoil hat, come down off the roof and hand over the bat.

It's ignorant to call him a conspiracy theorist, I suggest you research loads about the NWO before you make assumptions. I'm not taking his side as I'm not a believer of the NWO, but from a lot of the things I've read it's convincing, I'll never believe it until it happens completely. It's a huge process.

How does believing in the New World Order not make him a conspiracy theorist? It is a conspiracy...

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#24 ShuichiChamp24
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[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

I don't know about the greatest, but I sure love to visit there when I can.

surrealnumber5

where here? we have a lot of nice places and a lot of crapholes

won't argue there. I liked visiting N.Y in christmas, the light were great. L.A was also good but too damn hot, loved the food though. Mile high was sweet with the snow and mountains. I did not like Oakland much but people loved their raiders. Maine was very um, beautiful, really liked it there

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#25 CBR600-RR
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How does believing in the New World Order not make him a conspiracy theorist? It is a conspiracy...

PeaceChild90

Like I said, if you do your research which is time consuming, you'll know that it's a process and in the making. So call it a conspiracy all you want because you haven't done enough research to have your own opinion on it, so come back when you've done so, yeah?

I do not believe it will ever come into complete action however. ;)

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#26 PeaceChild90
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[QUOTE="PeaceChild90"]

How does believing in the New World Order not make him a conspiracy theorist? It is a conspiracy...

CBR600-RR

Like I said, if you do your research which is time consuming, you'll know that it's a process and in the making. So call it a conspiracy all you want because you haven't done enough research to have your own opinion on it, so come back when you've done so, yeah?

I do not believe it will ever come into complete action however. ;)

Don't make assumptions. I've done tons of research on the NWO, and most of the theories are way to far fetched for me to believe.

Definition of a conspiracy theory:

the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

Sounds a lot like what he believes. :o

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I've never been outside of America, so it would be ignorant for me to call the US the greatest country in the world.
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#28 CBR600-RR
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Don't make assumptions. I've done tons of research on the NWO, and most of the theories are way to far fetched for me to believe.

Definition of a conspiracy theory:

the idea that many important political events or economic and social trends are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.

Sounds a lot like what he believes. :o

PeaceChild90

I have a friend who's a believer, she's studied it for years and has shown me the main stuff, it was quite convincing but I will never believe it will come to complete plan.

"unknown to the general public" yeah, because it's unknown it's instantly defined as a conspiracy theory, that's great. :roll: A lot of stuff is leaked usually and it's all added up, it's evidence, right? ..and when people reply with such posts as "that's not a valid news source" of course it isn't, NWO believers say the valid news sources cover up stuff and tell a load of BS, but who knows who is right or wrong, right?

I don't want to argue further, I'm not a believer and never will be, but it's interesting stuff. Like I said, takes years of research to actually come up with a valid opinion, you can't just go around calling people nutters. :P Heck, do you go around trying to prove the Bible wrong? it's just the same.

I'm done. :)

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I don't know if America is the greatest country in the world. It's the only country I've ever lived in. I've been told time and time again by the government funded school system and government officials that the United States is thegreatest country in the world but I'm skeptikal because is it fact or justpropaganda?

It may have at one time been a great country but the way the feds arrest and evenprosicute anyone they want without any substantial evidence makes our constition seem like propagatedbull. Freedom of speech means what a person says is irrellavant. If you don't have any other evidence they get thebenefit of the doubt. The states have become useless, it's as if soveigrnty has become a commerative term. All of the stateshave been bought and this is why they let the Federal Government do whatever they want. Which ultimatley proves that corruption is inevitable. Overtime the people become weak because they have been pampered therefore they don't care how many freedoms they lose because the government buys their voteswith welfare & health care.

America has faded. It has been fading and it's still fading. When the day comes that they convince people to give up all of their guns I will probably leave. Simply because they wouldn't be doing it for our safety. They would have a reason but it wouldn't have anything to do with our safety. More their safety so they could safely do whatever they want. I don't want live in something similar to a Nazi regime so I hope it doesn't happen again in my lifetime. If it seems ridiculous then you are just too young or trusting to fathom just how sinister people really are. They may seem trustworthy soyou may feel you can turn yourback on them but to them you're just a fool and they won't hesitate to sieze the opportunity the moment your guard is down.

A government is a business and a businessman is nobody's friend, they're not looking out for anyone other than theirselves. Trusting a businessman is like trusting a lion. Ever hear the expression "Be wary, because you're going to the lions." Anyone who takes their chances with the lions is either foolish of desperate.

So is America the greatest? There's a lot of countries and they all have their fair share of problems. Living in the United States is better than living in some third hell hole, but if America is consideredthe best country in the worlds current state it doesn't mean much. As I said the United States is fading, it's going down not up.

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#30 Snipes_2
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Yes, it was.

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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="Willo_10"]

I think its time to take off the tinfoil hat, come down off the roof and hand over the bat.

PeaceChild90

It's ignorant to call him a conspiracy theorist, I suggest you research loads about the NWO before you make assumptions. I'm not taking his side as I'm not a believer of the NWO, but from a lot of the things I've read it's convincing, I'll never believe it until it happens completely. It's a huge process.

How does believing in the New World Order not make him a conspiracy theorist? It is a conspiracy...

I'm not going to call Wikipedia infallible, but here's the article that comes up when you type in New World Order. Whether you believe there really is some clandestine plot or not, it's definitely a conspiracy theory.

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#32 Crimsader
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No, it's the worst imo... :|

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#33 Ninja-Bear
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It depends entirely on what neighbourhood you live in, what kind of family you have, what job you have. The whole 'greatest country on earth' argument is such an ignorant one, in that there are millions of happy, fulfilled people in all kinds of countries all over the world.
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#34 ElZilcho90
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Being perfectly honest, yes, I do view America to be the greatest country, for a multitude of reasons. If anyone cares to know, I can go more in-depth.
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#35 Ontain
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One of the best. but I wouldn't say the best for most ppl in the US.
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#36 Vandalvideo
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That depends; in what field? Food? Nope, that would be Belgium or France. Art? Probably Portugal or Poland. Game making? Gooooo Slavs! Soccer? Viva Espana!
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#37 MagikarpSplash
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That's purely an opinion of what you think of as "greatest". Generally, the American's who say "This country is the best/it rules" are the ignorant ones who've never been anywhere else.
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#38 yokofox33
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I personally think it's the best because it's my home and the only place I've ever known (besides Japan for the past 2 years). It may not techinically be the best, but I love America and will always consider it my home no matter where I am. It has its problems, but I still love it.

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#39 Film-Guy
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Of course not. I think America is a great country but to call it the best is just arrogant. It has it's fair share of problems like all countries. I am from England and I prefer it there in some ways, but then I prefer America in other ways. I love how diverse America is, and all the cities I have been to I have enjoyed. I would call it one of my favorite countries sure but how would you even define it as the best?

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#40 Film-Guy
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

I don't know about the greatest, but I sure love to visit there when I can.

ShuichiChamp24

where here? we have a lot of nice places and a lot of crapholes

won't argue there. I liked visiting N.Y in christmas, the light were great. L.A was also good but too damn hot, loved the food though. Mile high was sweet with the snow and mountains. I did not like Oakland much but people loved their raiders. Maine was very um, beautiful, really liked it there

I have learned to appreciate L.A since I moved here 12 years ago. There may be many crappy areas and lots of bad drivers, but there are some great areas too like Melrose, and Santa Monica, which isn't part of L.A tecnically I guess. I also find Hollywood interesting. It's kinda dirty but it has some nice spots. Same with Venice which is fun to visit just to see how weird it is. I probably won't live here for long though. I'm thinking of moving down to either San Diego, Santa cruz, San Francisco, or Santa Barbera. L.A does have great restaurants too.

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The greatest eh... I lol'd
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#42 Pixel-Pirate
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Being perfectly honest, yes, I do view America to be the greatest country, for a multitude of reasons. If anyone cares to know, I can go more in-depth.ElZilcho90

I'd like to hear the reasons, yes.

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#43 Neon-Tiger
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I don't think it's even in the Top 10.
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#44 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

This topic is mainly aimed at Americans, but I'm interested in the responses. I see alot of people always saying "This is the greatest country ever!" and I'm just curious, do you agree that America is the best country in the world?

I haven't been to every other country in the world so I cannot say with certainty. While it may be one of the best, I don't exactly think it is the best.

Your thoughts?

1KyardStare

It is a great country, greatest is a hard claim to make though. The opportunities for every person in the US to be successful is greater than most every other country, I'm not talking UK, Australia, and the like. Those countries are the few and not the majority, too many other countries keep their populations restricted either through strict rules, a caste system, outright oppression,and even indebted servitude.

Actually it's easier to climb higher up the economic ladder in most European countries. Here's a study on it.

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#45 akbar13
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America has a lot of diverse places... You could live in a big city, rural city, by the beach with a boat, the ghetto.

The one thing that I like about Europe that I can gather from pictures and movies and things is that you can walk places that you like to go and it seems like you don't need a car to get everywhere. See where I live everything is like 5 miles away so you have to take a car. In Europe it seems like things are 100 yards away. Even someone on OT here said that Europe has better city planning or whatever.

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#46 Film-Guy
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America has a lot of diverse places... You could live in a big city, rural city, by the beach with a boat, the ghetto.

The one thing that I like about Europe that I can gather from pictures and movies and things is that you can walk places that you like to go and it seems like you don't need a car to get everywhere. See where I live everything is like 5 miles away so you have to take a car. In Europe it seems like things are 100 yards away. Even someone on OT here said that Europe has better city planning or whatever.

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It depends on the city really. I never drive in London because of all the traffic and random road works constantly. Instead I take the train for the most part. While in Los angeles it is easier to drive because the public transport is poorly organized. But then in Boston I mostly either walk or take the train. For the most part though Europe is easier to navigate by train or walking when it comes to the big cities.

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#47 AFBrat77
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Yes....it is.

Anyone who says otherwise is delusional or nationalistic to a fault.

However, the 'oo's were a step back for the USA.

Not only is it the wealthiest country in the world, has the most advanced military, is the most populous in the Western world, is the 3rd largest country in the world, its also undeniably among the most beautiful, whether its Hawaii, the Grand Canyon, the Colorado Rockies, Yellowstone National Park, or even the undeniable most happening city in the world, New York City.

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#48 Baskervore
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I think most countries are very very flawed, so not on an absolute scale. Relative....only in certain ways.
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#49 CBR600-RR
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Yes....it is.

Anyone who says otherwise is delusional or nationalistic to a fault.

However, the 'oo's were a step back for the USA.

AFBrat77

I think you're the one being nationalistic. ;)

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#50 The_Capitalist
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It stopped being a great country about a decade ago.