Is Barack Obama the anti-christ ?

Check this out.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

No one cares what he says or does. Weird.

No one cares what he says or does. Weird.

-Ninja_Dog-

Perhaps you've never been to a red state.

No, I do not believe he is the anti-christ but what I do believe is that Barack Obama is going to be the 44th President of the United States and there's nothing those racists who don't want him there can do about it.

EDIT: just to clarify, not all anti-Obama people are racist, I'm just referring to the racist ones.

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No one cares what he says or does. Weird.

Genetic_Code

Perhaps you've never been to a red state.

Look at the video. This dude is weird.

First off. I already see one problem with the first fact.

Obama's father is not a Muslim. He later became an atheist.

I'm still watching.

No, I do not believe he is the anti-christ but what I do believe is that Barack Obama is going to be the 44th President of the United States and there's nothing those racists who don't want him there can do about it.kayn83

I agree with you but this dude is getting a free pass, its very strange that the "future " president of the United States won't put his hand over is chest during the national anthem.

[QUOTE="kayn83"]No, I do not believe he is the anti-christ but what I do believe is that Barack Obama is going to be the 44th President of the United States and there's nothing those racists who don't want him there can do about it.-Ninja_Dog-

I agree with you but this dude is getting a free pass, its very strange that the "future " president of the United States won't put his hand over is chest during the national anthem.

How does that make him the anti-christ? I don't do that either (as apparently that's what Americans do and my friend said Canadians don't do that so I stopped lmao) and I'm surely not the anti-christ.

Now here comes the mention of the Muslim school. First off, I don't know why I'm tolerating this.

There is nothing wrong with Obama's father being Muslim, but he isn't. There is nothing wrong with Obama going to a Muslim school. I will be proud when the U.S. has a Muslim President, particularly one that supports my value. Obama is none of these.

A lot of these claims are debunked in this Snopes article.

I agree with you but this dude is getting a free pass, its very strange that the "future " president of the United States won't put his hand over is chest during the national anthem.

-Ninja_Dog-

Read.

First off. I already see one problem with the first fact.

Obama's father is not a Muslim. He later became an atheist.

I'm still watching.

Genetic_Code

From different books that he wrote.

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father :'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father:'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father :'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father:'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

-Ninja_Dog-

He was 12. I was a deeply seated sexist when I was 12 and somewhat of a racist. A lot of people change. Let's give the man a break for actually being honest. Remember that he never had his father when growing up. He met him only once. Because of his absence, he took pride in his black skin. It's common for a child without a parent to want to be more like the parent that they never had.

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

-Ninja_Dog-

You're missing a key point there. If anything, I find Obama's statement to be slightly Islamophobic, because Obama is suggesting that he wouldn't stand with the Muslims, unless they were the best alternative, as though they were some last resort.

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

-Ninja_Dog-

Damning? He's saying that if something terrible should happen that causes bigotry and prejudice against Muslims to flare up, then he will defend the Muslims from unfair hatred as opposed to throwing them under the bus in the name of political expedience.

Come on, have a little intellectual curiosity. :P

Oh, and another thing. Just because you don't know something a person does not mean that person is the Anti-Christ. There are a lot of people that you don't know, so don't assume for a minute that Obama is the Anti-Christ because you thinkhe's a Muslim, even though Islam is actually a peaceful religion when practiced correctly. Your logic here is really dumb. If Obama is a Muslim and a future leader of the U.S., when what would that make all the Islamic leaders in the Middle-East? There's so many people you can pin the Anti-Christ label on and yet you choose Obama and by doing so, display a great deal of Islamophobia? I don't care if you are offended when I call you a racist.Genetic_Code

Being called a racist is the fartherist thing from my mind.

This man has done nothing but speak about hope, ala Hitler and people buy into it hook line a sinker.

Its strange to see what this man believes in and who he follows and no one seems to care, but to simply say that he is eloquent when he speaks.

This man has done nothing but speak about hope, ala Hitler and people buy into it hook line a sinker.

-Ninja_Dog-

So anyone who promises the people hope is the next Hitler?

Would you prefer it if he told the people that they're screwed and that there's nothing they can do about it?

Oh, and get your facts correct. I did some research on your last quote and found that it is actually a perversion. The actual quote is this:

"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Being called a racist is the fartherist thing from my mind.

This man has done nothing but speak about hope, ala Hitler and people buy into it hook line a sinker.

Its strange to see what this man believes in and who he follows and no one seems to care, but to simply say that he is eloquent when he speaks.

-Ninja_Dog-

Yes, but I'm a vegetarian, like Hitler but does that make me Hitler or the Anti-Christ?

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And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

GabuEx

Damning? He's saying that if something terrible should happen that causes bigotry and prejudice against Muslims to flare up, then he will defend the Muslims from unfair hatred as opposed to throwing them under the bus in the name of political expedience.

Come on, have a little intellectual curiosity. :P

Intellectual curiosity ? Lets have some intellectual reality, for wrong or right Muslims feel like the "west" is the root of all their problems. If Mr. Obama feels this way in the slightest it may not bode well for the west.

Intellectual curiosity ? Lets have some intellectual reality, for wrong or right Muslims feel like the "west" is the root of all their problems. If Mr. Obama feels this way in the slightest it may not bode well for the west.

-Ninja_Dog-

Hasty generalizations. Don't get too carried away.

Intellectual curiosity ? Lets have some intellectual reality, for wrong or right Muslims feel like the "west" is the root of all their problems. If Mr. Obama feels this way in the slightest it may not bode well for the west.

-Ninja_Dog-

Intellectual curiosity is the ability to challenge your preconceptions and critically examine evidence in as unbiased a way as you can manage, especially by looking up related evidence before coming to a conclusion (such as the full context of that quote). I think it's pretty darn evident that you are not doing that, and are instead simply trying to justify whatever conclusion you had already made based on the evidence before you.

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Being called a racist is the fartherist thing from my mind.

This man has done nothing but speak about hope, ala Hitler and people buy into it hook line a sinker.

Its strange to see what this man believes in and who he follows and no one seems to care, but to simply say that he is eloquent when he speaks.

Genetic_Code

Yes, but I'm a vegetarian, like Hitler but does that make me Hitler What about the Anti-Christ?

I don't know if Mr. Obama is a vegetarian or not. But for you to equate that with what I am saying is less than a serious comment, aswell as a little offense and disturbing.

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Intellectual curiosity ? Lets have some intellectual reality, for wrong or right Muslims feel like the "west" is the root of all their problems. If Mr. Obama feels this way in the slightest it may not bode well for the west.

GabuEx

Intellectual curiosity is the ability to challenge your preconceptions and critically examine evidence in as unbiased a way as you can manage, especially by looking up related evidence before coming to a conclusion (such as the full context of that quote). I think it's pretty darn evident that you are not doing that, and are instead simply trying to justify whatever conclusion you had already made based on the evidence before you.

As well as ignoring the realities put forward can also be construed as blind faith.

I don't know if Mr. Obama is a vegetarian or not. But for you to equate that with what I am saying is less than a serious comment, aswell as a little offense and disturbing.

-Ninja_Dog-

Your argument basically went like this:

1. Hitler did X.

2. Obama also does X.

3. Therefore, Obama is like Hitler.

His proposed argument was exactly the same as yours.

imma go out on a limb here and just say that if obama WAS a muslim, then he'd be exactly what this country needed. Jester070

As long as it is the true message and not some twisted doctrine.

As well as ignoring the realities put forward can also be construed as blind faith.

-Ninja_Dog-

If you looked at the full context of that quote you provided where Obama says he will stand by the Muslims, there is quite literally no way that you could have logically came to any interpretation other than the one I proposed.

The fact that you did is effectively proof positive that you already had your mind made up and are now simply searching for whatever evidence you can find to justify that preformed conclusion. That's pretty much the definition of a lack of intellectual curiosity: a complete unwillingness to view evidence in any light other than one supportive of your predefined conclusions.

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I don't know if Mr. Obama is a vegetarian or not. But for you to equate that with what I am saying is less than a serious comment, aswell as a little offense and disturbing.

GabuEx

Your argument basically went like this:

1. Hitler did X.

2. Obama also does X.

3. Therefore, Obama is like Hitler.

His proposed argument was exactly the same as yours.

Simplify it much ?

Look at the way people receive him, the majority don't know much or anything about him. Except to equate him with "hope".

Its pretty much the "perfect storm" scenario.

Sad really.

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As well as ignoring the realities put forward can also be construed as blind faith.

GabuEx

If you looked at the full context of that quote you provided where Obama says he will stand by the Muslims, there is quite literally no way that you could have logically came to any interpretation other than the one I proposed.

The fact that you did is effectively proof positive that you already had your mind made up and are now simply searching for whatever evidence you can find to justify that preformed conclusion. That's pretty much the definition of a lack of intellectual curiosity: a complete unwillingness to view evidence in any light other than one supportive of your predefined conclusions.

You most choose a side. There is nothing intellectual about it.

This country is based on christian beliefs. And many Muslims despise this country. It is quite frighting that the man that could be president would align himself with those that would wish harm against it.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

I don't know if Mr. Obama is a vegetarian or not. But for you to equate that with what I am saying is less than a serious comment, aswell as a little offense and disturbing.

-Ninja_Dog-

Your argument basically went like this:

1. Hitler did X.

2. Obama also does X.

3. Therefore, Obama is like Hitler.

His proposed argument was exactly the same as yours.

Simplify it much ?

Look at the way people receive him, the majority don't know much or anything about him. Except to equate him with "hope".

Its pretty the "perfect storm" scenario.

Sad really.

We never know much about our candidates. If McCain had won the election eight years ago and then instituted the policies he supports now, we would feel shocked and betrayed. But people still call him a maverick with a straight face.

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No one cares what he says or does. Weird.

Genetic_Code

Perhaps you've never been to a red state.

Better find one while you can as many are turning blue!

You most choose a side. There is nothing intellectual about it.

-Ninja_Dog-

Well, that much certainly appears to be true. :P

This country is based on christian beliefs. And many Muslims despise this country. It is quite frighting that the man that could be president would align himself with those that would wish harm against it.

-Ninja_Dog-

There are currently two million Muslims living in America today as American citizens. What do you propose be done with them?

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You most choose a side. There is nothing intellectual about it.

GabuEx

Well, that much certainly appears to be true. :P

This country is based on christian beliefs. And many Muslims despise this country. It is quite frighting that the man that could be president would align himself with those that would wish harm against it.

-Ninja_Dog-

There are currently two million Muslims living in America today as American citizens. What do you propose be done with them?

Nothing. As long as they practice the muslim religion the way it was intended and not some twisted doctrine of hate.

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

GabuEx

Damning? He's saying that if something terrible should happen that causes bigotry and prejudice against Muslims to flare up, then he will defend the Muslims from unfair hatred as opposed to throwing them under the bus in the name of political expedience.

Come on, have a little intellectual curiosity. :P

Then that implies that the Muslims must have done something very bad to receive so much discrimination and hatred so therefore i hope they aren't defended by the President if such a travesty has occurred because of them. With Caucasians becoming a minority i don't see any other way the country can come out of no where and go on a wild bigotry riot.

Nothing. As long as they practice the muslim religion the way it was intended and not some twisted doctrine of hate.

-Ninja_Dog-

Well you said that Obama is aligning himself with those who wish harm against it, since you assert that America is based on Christian beliefs. Seems to me that all Muslims would be doing that, then. Otherwise, what does it matter whether or not Obama is a Muslim?

Then that implies that the Muslims must have done something very bad to receive so much discrimination and hatred so therefore i hope they aren't defended by the President if such a travesty has occurred because of them. With Caucasians becoming a minority i don't see any other way the country can come out of no where and go on a wild bigotry riot.

Montaya

When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, was that the fault of the Japanese people living in America? Did they deserve the internment they received?

You're acting as if "the Muslims" are one huge hive mind. That seems a little strange.

I just wrote about how I still see the good in people and then I see this. I mean seriously? I don't believe in any of Obama's ideas and I still think that this is ridiculous.

no, This is the antichrist

that vid had nothing to do about the antichrist.

Besides, isn't the antichrist supposed to be an athiest?

Wow, that video reminded me of Nazi propaganda back in the 30s.

"FACT: His father was a MUSLIM from KENYA!", "FACT: He went to a MUSLIM school as a child!"

Land of opportunity indeed.

Check this out.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

No one cares what he says or does. Weird.

-Ninja_Dog-

that vid had nothing to do about the antichrist.

Besides, isn't the antichrist supposed to be an athiest?

Acemaster27

As the name would suggest he would be a christian who would destroy there own religion from within.

I think if you truly wanted to achieve such a goal being the anti-christ though you'd first have to become pope in my opinion, you'd have absolute power pretty much over night.