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He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan who once called Jews "blood suckers". But i don't see any proof so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say he is not a muslim, but he is a left wing liberal and a bit of an idiot. I mean he actually said he would withdraw from Iraq and then send the troops back if al Qaeda started setting up safe havens in Iraq, but isn't al Qaida already in Iraq (when McCain used this argument Obama's response was to blame their presence on Bush and the Iraq war, but it really sounded to me like an admission that al Qaida was there). Oh boy, i can see our future: 2009- Soldiers leave Iraq 2010- Soldiers go back to Iraq 2011- Soldiers withdraw again 2012- soldiers go back. 2013- This jerk is replaced by a competent president.

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#2 forgetwatyahear
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no he is a christian. so what about his name. china wants thier wall back.
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Ok... So you don't like Democrats. What does that have to do with his name or religion?
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#4 nintendorocks
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I believe he was but he converted.
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#5 UTXII
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Yes, he is. Haha, how the heck would I know. I hate politics. :P
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He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan who once called Jews "blood suckers". But i don't see any proof so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say he is not a muslim, but he is a left wing liberal and a bit of an idiot. I mean he actually said he would withdraw from Iraq and then send the troops back if al Qaeda started setting up safe havens in Iraq, but isn't al Qaida already in Iraq (when McCain used this argument Obama's response was to blame their presence on Bush and the Iraq war, but it really sounded to me like an admission that al Qaida was there). Oh boy, i can see our future: 2009- Soldiers leave Iraq 2010- Soldiers go back to Iraq 2011- Soldiers withdraw again 2012- soldiers go back. 2013- This jerk is replaced by a competent president.

whipassmt

Whats wrong with being Muslim? Oo by the way I'm voting for him as my first choice. :P

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He use to be Muslim, but converted to Christianity when he got involved in politics years ago.
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#9 KG86
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Would it matter if he was?
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I, as a Christian, could care less about the religion of my president. I think that a separation of church and state is really important. If Barack were to be a Muslim or not, it wouldn't change my opinion of him.
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#11 B05T0N
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He's Christian...
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#12 JRoss17
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Would it matter if he was?KG86
To the majority of Americans it would
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#13 Suliman-Uchia
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why do you care if he is a muslim. What have muslims done to you. Of cours bush has made up blantly lies to go agaisnt muclims.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]whipassmt
it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

Are you joking? I sure hope so.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]whipassmt
it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

Wow...just wow
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]whipassmt
it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

I can not believe what I have just read and Muslims are the only "terrorists".

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#19 whipassmt
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He use to be Muslim, but converted to Christianity when he got involved in politics years ago.1stCommando
wow you make it sound like he converted for political reasons (i wouldn't put it past him). Oh crap, what if he is an al Qaida agent who is trying to undermine the U.S. from within, if you look at his policies like invading Pakistan (which would inflame the whole muslim world and put our forces in a quagmire) it seems like he might very well be an enemy agent. Who was the Congressmen that said if Barak won the terrorists would be dancing in the streets.
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#20 Dreams-Visions
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He was never a Muslim. He's certainly not one now...and has been a member of the same church for *at least* 20 years.

Please stop with the unlearned commentary. FUD stinks.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]gobo212

it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

Are you joking? I sure hope so.

No, but i do not believe this will happen. it's just a possibility but i don't even think he is muslim.
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#22 YourOldFriend
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Only he can know for sure, not that it should matter.
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#23 whipassmt
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I can not believe what I have just read and Muslims are the only "terrorists".

i supposed you mean muslims are not the only terrorists, this is true. For instance the FARC terrorist group is marxist, which makes them atheist terrorists. Also there are Hindu terror groups in India that persecute Muslim and Christian Indians.
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He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

whipassmt
He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.
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#25 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="gobo212"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]whipassmt

it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

Are you joking? I sure hope so.

No, but i do not believe this will happen. it's just a possibility but i don't even think he is muslim.

First of all:

1.) Most muslims are not "probably not terrorists". Most muslims are NOT terrorists. That's all. The end of the statment. Don't let your underexposure to the muslim religion put you in a position to start posting ignorant commentary. You will get called on it. There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. Suggeting that this small segment of Muslims who terrorize the world *may* represent a large cross-section of Muslims is akin to saying the Westboro Baptist Church (the people who picket outside of funerals like the VT shooting funeral) is a reasonable reflection of the Christian experience. Come on.

2.) He's not a damn Muslim. He's a Christian and has been for 20 years. Before that, he was an Athiest.

3.) It's not a possibility. The fact that someone would even post something like this baffles the mind. OMG.

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#26 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

EboyLOL

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

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#27 JRoss17
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I duno, I think theres a better chance he morphs into some sorta super being :| dooming us all
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I duno, I think theres a better chance he morphs into some sorta super being :| dooming us allJRoss17
Could happen. Maybe's he's actually Xenu...Scientology's god-like figure. Teh alienz are among us!!! OMG!
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No, now take your propaganda elsewhere and quit stinking up the boards.
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

Dreams-Visions

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Give the TC a break. His ideas are ridiculous, but he is young and naive.
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He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Dreams-Visions
He probably couldn't believe he was being endorsed by the KKK in the first place.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

EboyLOL

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Give the TC a break. His ideas are ridiculous, but he is young and naive.

If he's old enough to post...old enough to create his own logic train and post it...he's old enough to get chopped the **** down.

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There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. - really last time i checked there was 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians.
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

Dreams-Visions

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Give the TC a break. His ideas are ridiculous, but he is young and naive.

If he's old enough to post...old enough to create his own logic train and post it...he's old enough to get chopped the **** down.

I agree with the man.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Cerussite

He probably couldn't believe he was being endorsed by the KKK in the first place.

Doesn't matter. His point remained: it's neither his fault nor his problem if someone endorses him in an unsolicited fashion. People are free to do whatever they want to do. If candidates have to be accountable for the idiots that endorse them...or if they have to be considered a reflection of those who have endorsed them, nobody would qualify. It's just dumb.

I like reasonable reasons for disliking a politician. It's one thing to not like a guy's policies or stances on issues. It's quite another to paint him as something that he's not or to try to make him accountable for things he had nothing to do with.

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If he's old enough to post...old enough to create his own logic train and post it...he's old enough to get chopped the **** down.

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:lol: I agree, but I guess I'm just a nice person.
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

EboyLOL
He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

well he pretty much had to or else he wouldn't get elected. but Hillary would make a much better president than him, all her and Bill did for the party and now the party is betraying her.
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There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. - really last time i checked there was 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians.whipassmt

looks like you're are correct. But the point still remains. 1.5 billion Muslims make the point obvious that only a extremely small fraction (on the order of hundreds...out of BILLIONS) are radical terorrists.

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There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. - really last time i checked there was 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians.whipassmt
Congratulations. You've murdered logic.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Cerussite
He probably couldn't believe he was being endorsed by the KKK in the first place.

I know, it's absolutely hysterical.
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#41 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

whipassmt

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

well he pretty much had to or else he wouldn't get elected. but Hillary would make a much better president than him, all her and Bill did for the party and now the party is betraying her.

Dude, nobody black outside of the members of the Nation of Islam agree with Frarrakhan's crazy comments. NOBODY.

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Okay enough of the Muslim stuff, what do you think about his plan to withdraw and then to send the troops back again, and do you think Obama is a moderate, a liberal, or a left winger.
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. - really last time i checked there was 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians.Cerussite
Congratulations. You've murdered logic.

he was closer to right than us. and on a side note, I can't believe there are 1 billion + Catholics. Amazing.

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[QUOTE="Cerussite"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. - really last time i checked there was 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians.Dreams-Visions

Congratulations. You've murdered logic.

he was closer to right than us. and on a side note, I can't believe there are 1 billion + Catholics. Amazing.

Read it again. Unless he's referencing a previous post I've missed, he contradicted himself.
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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

whipassmt

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

well he pretty much had to or else he wouldn't get elected. but Hillary would make a much better president than him, all her and Bill did for the party and now the party is betraying her.

And can you show me solid proof that the only reason he denounced Farakhan was to garner votes? I remember that he denounced Farakhan when Hillary Clinton was whining to him in a debate that he hadn't denounced him. Obama said (during the debate) something along the lines of "Ok... I denounce him now", and made Clinton look like a petty fool.

As far as policy goes, Obama and Clinton are not that much different, so it is rather hard to tell who would make a better leader.

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If he was, why would you bother? Do you really think the CIA is going to pass something this obvious?
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Okay enough of the Muslim stuff, what do you think about his plan to withdraw and then to send the troops back again, and do you think Obama is a moderate, a liberal, or a left winger.whipassmt

He has no intention of withdrawing all our forces anytime soon.

He plans on bringing home 1 brigade every so many months (as the generals have deemed safe) over the next 18 months (that means most of our forces there through 2010), leaving behind a combat force better designed for hunting Al Qaeda. He'd either bring home that large fighting force or re-proritize them to Afganistan, which is falling apart...and where our masses should have never left.

Those that are under the impression that he plans on bringing all our troops home ASAP are sadly mistaken or otherwise confused.

IF Al Qaeda (in the hypothetical presented) were to get so big that they could cause problems or be a bigger threat, he'd send them back in to be stomped out. But given his plan, it's pretty unlikely, as the Iraqi Army should be fairly capable at that point and we'll have our special forces moving on camps and strongholds throughout the country after our brigades are gone.

He's a democratic candidate, so he's left of center.

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Okay enough of the Muslim stuff, what do you think about his plan to withdraw and then to send the troops back again, and do you think Obama is a moderate, a liberal, or a left winger.whipassmt

Hes conservative.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]KillaHalo2o9

it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

I can not believe what I have just read and Muslims are the only "terrorists".

yea, i guess the oklahoma city bomber was muslim after all >____>

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

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He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

well he pretty much had to or else he wouldn't get elected. but Hillary would make a much better president than him, all her and Bill did for the party and now the party is betraying her.

And can you show me solid proof that the only reason he denounced Farakhan was to garner votes? I remember that he denounced Farakhan when Hillary Clinton was whining to him in a debate that he hadn't denounced him. Obama said (during the debate) something along the lines of "Ok... I denounce him now", and made Clinton look like a petty fool.

As far as policy goes, Obama and Clinton are not that much different, so it is rather hard to tell who would make a better leader.

More details on that exchange:

Chris Matthews asked him about the Frarrakahn endorsement and if he denounced it. Obama said, that he did denounced it, and that he did not seek his endorsement anyway...that he's found many of Frarrakahn's comments completely wrong and that he can't control those who endorse him really...and that he's a strong supporter of the Jewish community.

Hillary decided to chime in saying that to "denounce" him isn't enough and that he has to "reject" him. The audience booded at Hillary.

Obama said, well...I don't really see a difference between "denouncing" and "rejecting", but if you feel there's a difference, then I'll conceed the point...and I'll "denounce AND reject". The audience applauds for him winning the point.

She nodded and they moved on.