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#1  Edited By indzman
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As a non american, i often find Harsh criticisms against him online. Some also Praise Him Highly too to the point of being best US prez in years.

Is Barrack Obama good or bad prez OT? Share your impressions :)

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#2 Serraph105
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Well he did see that unemployment fell from 10% in 2010 to just under 5% recently (and it appears it will continue in the next few months). He's imperfect, but it's hard to ignore his accomplishments as president.

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He is one of the good presidents and has done many good things in pushing forward on key issues like climate change, energy and guns. People always praise Clinton but fail to realize his policies led to bank crisis. I bet when he is gone, people will realize he wasn't as bad as anti-Obama propaganda had led them to believe

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#4 indzman
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@Sandulf29 said:

He is one of the good presidents and has done many good things in pushing forward on key issues like climate change, energy and guns. People always praise Clinton but fail to realize his policies led to bank crisis. I bet when he is gone, people will realize he wasn't as bad as anti-Obama propaganda had led them to believe

Oh Hai Mandy :P

How goes your summer gaming? :)

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Oh Hai Mandy :P

How goes your summer gaming? :)

Just got free from exams and stress. Started Final Fantasy XIII-2 and also got Lightning Returns

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I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

He's had good accomplishments, but he has also had some real huge black marks on his resume. He didn't restore the economy. The fixes he implemented were better than the GOP's ideas, as they would have hastened the ill effects, while he delayed them a little. Our economy is screwed either way. And unbelievable diplomacy in the Middle East? Really? Has he done anything about India and Pakistan's perpetual brinksmanship, or done the same with Israel and Palestine? Did he not support Turkish indiscriminate bombing in Yemen?

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#8 Sandulf29
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He's had good accomplishments, but he has also had some real huge black marks on his resume. He didn't restore the economy. The fixes he implemented were better than the GOP's ideas, as they would have hastened the ill effects, while he delayed them a little. Our economy is screwed either way. And unbelievable diplomacy in the Middle East? Really? Has he done anything about India and Pakistan's perpetual brinksmanship, or done the same with Israel and Palestine? Did he not support Turkish indiscriminate bombing in Yemen?

Trust me on this, no US president can do much about anything about Indo-Pakistan conflict. And it has kinda subdued over recent years after US stopped blatantly supporting Pakistan. It's one of those husband-wife conflicts which are better without involvement of aimless third party and if US is really worried about conflicts it should do more to keep China in check with it bullying India, Japan etc.

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@Shmiity said:

I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

The congressional opposition to him is absolutely embarrassing. They are scared of an intelligent, african american man who is better than them. Racist douchebag congress ass holes. I could go on forever about this

This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this.

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#10 indzman
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@Sandulf29 said:
@indzman said:

Oh Hai Mandy :P

How goes your summer gaming? :)

Just got free from exams and stress. Started Final Fantasy XIII-2 and also got Lightning Returns

HaHa Enjoy Sandy XD

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#13 N64DD
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@Shmiity said:
@n64dd said:
@Shmiity said:

I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

The congressional opposition to him is absolutely embarrassing. They are scared of an intelligent, african american man who is better than them. Racist douchebag congress ass holes. I could go on forever about this

This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this.

I can only guess you are a member of the racist dickheads who dislike him.

You can dislike somebody and not be racist. I think you need a break from the internet.

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I think he did the best he could considering he had a Republican Congress who had no interest in legislating but instead just gumming up the works. Considering that, I'm surprised he got as much accomplished as he did.

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#15  Edited By CountBleck12
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he sucked, glad he's stepping down

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#16 Maroxad
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He slashed the deficit quite heavily, slightly cut military spending, cut taxes for 99% of the population, decreased unemployment quite substancially. Of course, he was far from perfect, he did afterall approve of TPP.

Overall, he was a good president. And accomplished quite a bit and did more good than he did harm. I would put him somewhere in the middle, above failures like Dubya, Ronald Reagan and Nixon, but below presidents like Roosevelt, Ike and Bill Clinton.

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#18 Starshine_M2A2
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He kept his hands relatively free of bloodshed in a time where it was extremely difficult to avoid. For that, I respect him.

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#19 TheHighWind
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I think Obama did a good job. Everyone else in my family hates his guts though.

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#20 fenriz275
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Good president hamstrung by a worthless Congress. It would be an honor to meet him, wouldn't piss on a member of Congress to stop the fire.

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Bad. Even coming from the left he is horrid. I really hate how he let repukes walk over him. His immigration policies sucked and he broke the law as well. (No, i am not talking about where he was born)

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@Starshine_M2A2: HAHAHA!!! No he didn't.

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#23  Edited By PSP107
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@n64dd: "This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this."

You can't be serious? You guys in system Wars are far worse. The Fanboyism in that room is just funny and sad. You people need help.

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#24  Edited By JimB
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@Shmiity said:
@n64dd said:
@Shmiity said:

I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

The congressional opposition to him is absolutely embarrassing. They are scared of an intelligent, african american man who is better than them. Racist douchebag congress ass holes. I could go on forever about this

This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this.

I can only guess you are a member of the racist dickheads who dislike him.

That is what I like about the left you disagree with someones policy and you are called a racist. Obama has done a lot of damage to the United states with his policies. No good jobs are being created, wages have decreased, the middle class is almost gone, he is perceived as weak by the other foreign leaders. He had a chance to unite the country and he has divided it further. The black community was hoping for improvement but things are worse for them unemployment in the black community is over 10%. Part time hours have been scaled back to avoid the Affordable Care Act. The economy is in shambles and shows no improvement for the near future.

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Incoming hyperbole, Batman!

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#26  Edited By AFBrat77
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He was a good president for the most part, the Republicans decided early on to say No to him as often as possible, irregardless of whether what he wanted would help the country.

His Achilles heel was foreign policy, I understand not wanting to get involved in wars, but he could have taken tougher stances.

Overall, a big improvement over dubya.

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@PSP107 said:

@n64dd: "This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this."

You can't be serious? You guys in system Wars are far worse. The Fanboyism in that room is just funny and sad. You people need help.

I think it's fine in System Wars to set your favorite system on a pedestal while trampling all others in the mud. Fanboys there are okay too. The place would be very boring if all posters were civil.

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Mediocre. He did some good things, but he was confronted with a congress whose only goal was to thwart his policies.

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#29  Edited By bforrester420
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@JimB said:
@Shmiity said:
@n64dd said:
@Shmiity said:

I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

The congressional opposition to him is absolutely embarrassing. They are scared of an intelligent, african american man who is better than them. Racist douchebag congress ass holes. I could go on forever about this

This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this.

I can only guess you are a member of the racist dickheads who dislike him.

That is what I like about the left you disagree with someones policy and you are called a racist. Obama has done a lot of damage to the United states with his policies. No good jobs are being created, wages have decreased, the middle class is almost gone, he is perceived as weak by the other foreign leaders. He had a chance to unite the country and he has divided it further. The black community was hoping for improvement but things are worse for them unemployment in the black community is over 10%. Part time hours have been scaled back to avoid the Affordable Care Act. The economy is in shambles and shows no improvement for the near future.

Tell me, how does the president influence the economy; particularly the type of jobs that are created and the wages paid? What role does Congress play? What actions could Obama taken to have improved those issues you've listed?

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I think that he was a very good president but was held back by the most toxic opposition that I have ever seen.

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@Archangel3371 said:

I think that he was a very good president but was held back by the most toxic opposition that I have ever seen.

Aye, met with impasses on a lot of issues that could improve the state of the country. Nonetheless, the things he has done for America make me think he is one of the best presidents the USA has ever had. The poor and middle working class, LGBT (and Cuba lol) have a lot to thank him for.

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#32  Edited By fenriz275
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Much better than the people he serves.

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#33 Flubbbs
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terrible and should of been a 1 term president but Mitt Romney was a retard

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#34 MarcRecon
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@indzman said:

As a non american, i often find Harsh criticisms against him online. Some also Praise Him Highly too to the point of being best US prez in years.

Is Barrack Obama good or bad prez OT? Share your impressions :)

Knowing the REAL mechanics of how the political system works, I would say he's followed the script of his predecessors( Republican and Democrat) He's protected the interest of the ruling class and has had a positive & negative impact on civil issues. But of course, most people who know politics know that it's the corporations and special interest groups that dictate policy

The only thing that changes is our perspective but the results are the same, that's why people are frustrated. I think when more people realize this, they will stop looking for the government to make changes in the lives and know that the only REAL change comes from how they perceive things.

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@Shmiity said:

I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

The congressional opposition to him is absolutely embarrassing. They are scared of an intelligent, african american man who is better than them. Racist douchebag congress ass holes. I could go on forever about this

First of all, get his balls out of your mouth...

Secondly, you're the one pulling the race card.

I think he was decent. Hes done some good things and some things I don't like...

Like when I had to work weekends because my Squadron was in charge of securing the airspace around him during meetings. :P

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@jun_aka_pekto: "I think it's fine in System Wars to set your favorite system on a pedestal while trampling all others in the mud. Fanboys there are okay too. The place would be very boring if all posters were civil."

lol, so why that can't apply here?

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#38  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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He reminds me of a softer version of Bush Jr. He was the lesser of two evils when it came to two establishment presidents trying to get into office. Economically, I think he's terrible at it but smarter at covering it up to sway the public. I can't put the blame all on him, but his administration as a whole and the republican-dominate senates. He gave us hope but he hardly gave us any change.

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US presidents are always harshly criticized. He's been ok. I fear whichever candidates got nominated by their respective parties will be far, far worse. Cant believe the Dems are going to give us the worst possible person on the earth as their nominee.

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#40 mrbojangles25
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Obama is great. The only tragedy is how much resistance he encountered; he and the administration could have done so more if congress was even a little bit more cooperative.

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#41 mjorh
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i like him , but i'm no expert at politics so ...

@PSP107 said:

@n64dd: "This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this."

You can't be serious? You guys in system Wars are far worse. The Fanboyism in that room is just funny and sad. You people need help.

Don't you dare insult us :P :D It's not all about fanboyism..we do have good discussions there , as said above it would get boring without some trolling :D

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#42 N64DD
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@mjorh said:

i like him , but i'm no expert at politics so ...

@PSP107 said:

@n64dd: "This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this."

You can't be serious? You guys in system Wars are far worse. The Fanboyism in that room is just funny and sad. You people need help.

Don't you dare insult us :P :D It's not all about fanboyism..we do have good discussions there , as said above it would get boring without some trolling :D

I'm not a fanboy of anything, so he has no argument against me as I stated. I own all systems and enjoy them all. The guy going nuts calling everybody racist because they disagree with him just needs to have a drink and go to bed.

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He's done a decent job given the road blocks that have been put in his way and the extreme shift the GOP has taken in the last decade. With that being said there's plenty of stuff I disagree with that he's done. Then again when I look at the presidential hopefuls that are running right now he looks pretty good, especially the GOP clown show happening.

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#44  Edited By ktseymour
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Anyone that spews that kind of idiocy is usually the racist. Calling someone racist because of the color of the person you're defending makes someone else a racist? Especially on the net when you don't even know the color of the person you're talking to. Amazing!


@n64dd said:
@Shmiity said:
@n64dd said:
@Shmiity said:

I fucking love Barack Obama. All of you racist dickheads who think he sucks- you are dead wrong. He restored our economy, he was the sitting president during the LGBT marriage rights ruling , unemployment is below 5%, he killed Osama bin Laden, he has shown unbelievable diplomacy in the middle east... the list goes on.

The congressional opposition to him is absolutely embarrassing. They are scared of an intelligent, african american man who is better than them. Racist douchebag congress ass holes. I could go on forever about this

This is why I do not come to OT. I lost a few brain cells reading this.

I can only guess you are a member of the racist dickheads who dislike him.

You can dislike somebody and not be racist. I think you need a break from the internet.

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I think that he was a very good president but was held back by the most toxic opposition that I have ever seen.

At the start of his term, the dems held both houses. He was held back by his own party and his own indecision. He never was able to show true leadership. He had a chance to lead from ahead on gay rights and healthcare but he took the cowards way out. He went for civil unions and opposed gay marriage until the population supported it. then he was for it. Thats bullshit and weakness. Not what a leader would do but what a scoundrel like Hillary clinton would do - pandering.

Obamacare is a disaster. It could have ushered in a much better era of healthcare reform, but instead he went to bed with health care companies and drug companies. Costs remain absurd.

Shut down Gitmo. LOL.

He's been killing thousands of people illegally and committing war crimes with his drone program. What happened to the hope and change ideals that value human life? Seems like he's just a tool for the MIC.

Great leader my ass.

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@sonicare said:
@Archangel3371 said:

I think that he was a very good president but was held back by the most toxic opposition that I have ever seen.

At the start of his term, the dems held both houses. He was held back by his own party and his own indecision. He never was able to show true leadership. He had a chance to lead from ahead on gay rights and healthcare but he took the cowards way out. He went for civil unions and opposed gay marriage until the population supported it. then he was for it. Thats bullshit and weakness. Not what a leader would do but what a scoundrel like Hillary clinton would do - pandering.

Obamacare is a disaster. It could have ushered in a much better era of healthcare reform, but instead he went to bed with health care companies and drug companies. Costs remain absurd.

Shut down Gitmo. LOL.

He's been killing thousands of people illegally and committing war crimes with his drone program. What happened to the hope and change ideals that value human life? Seems like he's just a tool for the MIC.

Great leader my ass.

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Worst since Jimmy Carter.

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He will probably be considered in the middle of the pack in terms of presidents maybe lower end.

The debt is an absolute disaster and the middle east is just as bad if not worse than when he took the office. He talksabout gun control when he had ample opportunity when he had a supermajority in both house and senate back during his first term to get things done.

He has some good accomplishments but overall there's still glaring failures as well.

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As someone not from the US, I see him as a fairly good one overall, but he must be very divisive, He seems to catch flak from both sides of the spectrum, which might mean that he is the very definition og someone in the middle, which I think is fairly admirable.

He is a whole lot more Likable then the last one, that's for sure. I am not sure how much to credit him for, but while he has been President the US did reach a much better standard overall, jut not sure how much the average citizen feels that. So maybe he could have tried to do more for the average Joe, if he has any say in that, I think many states do a fairly bad job, and he catches the flak. Not easy to be the frontman.

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#50  Edited By omotih
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yeah, bush and dick ruin the USA and all history will remember is a black incompetent president ... too good ... poor americans ... trapped in the pattern ^^