Is being attracted to same sex wrong?

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#1 JohnBoe
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I think it is. Guys and girls should be together, not guy and guy.
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#3 Hinata237
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Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?
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#5 Wetall_basic
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Nope. It's pretty easy to see there is nothing wrong with it. Does it hurt you? Does it cause harm anyone else? Nope? Than it's not wrong.
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#6 Rhazakna
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No, I don't believe it's wrong. Nor do I believe its right. It's just another trait of the individual, that they have no control over.
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#7 xxDustmanxx
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I think it is. Guys and girls should be together, not guy and guy.JohnBoe

It doesn't really matter.Its pretty normal now, even other animals do it.No big deal.

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#8 _Tobli_
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So if a person is attracted to a person of the same sex. What is he/she supposed to do? Pretend to be heterosexual? Celibacy?
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

You obviously don't know anything about homosexuality.
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#10 Hinata237
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People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

ShadowTheHHFan

Whatever you may think, people are born with their own unique sexual preferences. You may have been born with an attraction towards girls with red hair, whilst another may be attracted to a girl with black hair. You never chose to be attracted to these things, you just are and you can't explain why.

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#11 foxhound_fox
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Wrong in what way? Wrong in that you are born who you are and cannot change it. Or wrong in that people think they can impose their subjective morality upon others?

I pose a hypothetical situation to the heterosexuals who believe that homosexuality is a "choice:" If by some unknown reason, homosexuality becomes socially "acceptable" and heterosexuality becomes what homosexuality is now in many places, a heavily chastised and belittled preference, would you as a heterosexual be able to "choose" to "become" the "right" sexual alignment?

Homosexuality is a sexual preference just like a man liking a woman with large breasts or a woman preferring a man with a chubby belly is a sexual preference. You have developed to prefer that sexual desire over others and are in no way different from any other hetero-, bi-, pan- or whatever-sexual.
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

really?? you think gay peopleare attracted to the same sex by choice??? they choose to be ostercised, ridiculed, treated as less of people... they CHOOSE that??? really dude?? they were born that way. they cant help it. no straight guy one day, would say... i think im gunna make a choice and like penis

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#13 Fandangle
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I think it is. Guys and girls should be together, not guy and guy.JohnBoe

I don't care - I'm a selfish individual who only cares about what happens in my bedroom.

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#14 Whicker89
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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

Hinata237

Whatever you may think, people are born with their own unique sexual preferences. You may have been born with an attraction towards girls with red hair, whilst another may be attracted to a girl with black hair. You never chose to be attracted to these things, you just are and you can't explain why.

Enviromental factors NOT Genetics.
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

I'm not saying that they don't have a choice, but there are several other animals other than us, with (i can only imagine) decision making skills than us that partake in homosexual behavior.So are they born with slightly altered genetics or do they choose to do so?

Dose a bird have the ability to decide whether its attracted to the opposite or same sex?You tell me.

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#17 bluntmastaslaya
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[QUOTE="bluntmastaslaya"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]

[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

really?? you think gay peopleare attracted to the same sex by choice??? they choose to be ostercised, ridiculed, treated as less of people... they CHOOSE that??? really dude?? they were born that way. they cant help it. no straight guy one day, would say... i think im gunna make a choice and like penis

No, But they choose to let their **** get the better of them.

what do you mean they let their **** get the better of them?? its who they are... nothing is getting the better of them. they are attracted to the same sex. nothing is getting the better of them. they cant help it. do you let your attraction to the opposite sex "get the better of you"? they are who they are and have no choice. you are being very ignorant.

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#18 Poedon
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some guys liek skinny girls, some guys like fat girls, some guys don't like girls at all :P I don't understand why a guy would be attracted to another sweaty nasty guy, but what do i care? I know that i love women, and more gay guys mean more girls for the taking :)
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#19 xxDustmanxx
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[QUOTE="bluntmastaslaya"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]

[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

really?? you think gay peopleare attracted to the same sex by choice??? they choose to be ostercised, ridiculed, treated as less of people... they CHOOSE that??? really dude?? they were born that way. they cant help it. no straight guy one day, would say... i think im gunna make a choice and like penis

No, But they choose to let they're penis get the better of them.

What?If my penis wants to get the best of me, it would have to be with a female.I cannot one day choose to be attracted to men, as a gay man cannot choose to be attracted to women.

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#20 jdc6305
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No it's only wrong if you belive it is, what other people do in thier life is none of my buisness. If everyone on this planet minded thier own buisness and quit forcing thier beliefs on everyone else the world would be a better place.
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I honestly don't care
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#23 TheFlush
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

Whicker89

Whatever you may think, people are born with their own unique sexual preferences. You may have been born with an attraction towards girls with red hair, whilst another may be attracted to a girl with black hair. You never chose to be attracted to these things, you just are and you can't explain why.

Enviromental factors NOT Genetics.

That's such bullcrap! then how come I'm gay and my 1 year older brother is not? When we were kids we were equal, we share the same interests, music taste, our parents treated us the same. There hasn't happened anything that caused me to go the other way. When I was very little I already knew I was never going to marry a girl, I din't even know about homosexuality then. When I reached puberty I started thinking about guys, I have never ever had such feelings for a girl. And many times you can see if a guy is gay or a girl is lesbian, not only by the way they dress or act. But also gay men often have more feminine facial features while some lesbians have masculine features.
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#24 kruesader
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You made a new account to troll tolerant people?
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#25 Ignis-Fatuus
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Uh, wow. ShadowTheHHFa, I find pretty much ALL of your posts in this thread offensive. And I like the way you seem to ignore actual logic and just keep making ignorant posts.

Anyway, as I'm gay obviously I don't think it's wrong. I don't see why it would be.

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#26 bluntmastaslaya
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I'm just going to let you guys beat up that post for a while.

I'm sure it'll do you some good, eventually or something.

Anyway. Do I believe it's wrong? Yes, Do I believe it's their right? Yes. It's their right, But imo, the wrong right. Bite me.

ShadowTheHHFan

i didnt realize people with this magnitude of ignorance, still existed,

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#27 Tykain
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Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't decide to be more atracted to say caucasian girls, or asian girls or whatever. It's the same for everything, your tastes and orientations aren't a concious choice.
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#29 bluntmastaslaya
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[QUOTE="bluntmastaslaya"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]

I'm just going to let you guys beat up that post for a while.

I'm sure it'll do you some good, eventually or something.

Anyway. Do I believe it's wrong? Yes, Do I believe it's their right? Yes. It's their right, But imo, the wrong right. Bite me.

ShadowTheHHFan

i didnt realize people with this magnitude of ignorance, still existed,

Like I said. Bite me. Live with it.

no dude, im a guy, if i bit you that would be gay and that is wrong remember?

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#31 Tykain
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Oh and btw, no i don't think it's wrong at all and it doesn't bother me. It's not like it affect me, or actually yes it does...more girls for me! They can't reproduce but so what, if i don't want kids does that mean i shouldn't be alowed to have a relationship then ?
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#32 ernie1989
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I don't find anything wrong being attracted to the same sex.
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Only God can judge us. - The Bible
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#34 Whicker89
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[QUOTE="Whicker89"][QUOTE="Hinata237"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

TheFlush

Whatever you may think, people are born with their own unique sexual preferences. You may have been born with an attraction towards girls with red hair, whilst another may be attracted to a girl with black hair. You never chose to be attracted to these things, you just are and you can't explain why.

Enviromental factors NOT Genetics.

That's such bullcrap! then how come I'm gay and my 1 year older brother is not? When we were kids we were equal, we share the same interests, music taste, our parents treated us the same. There hasn't happened anything that caused me to go the other way. When I was very little I already knew I was never going to marry a girl, I din't even know about homosexuality then. When I reached puberty I started thinking about guys, I have never ever had such feelings for a girl. And many times you can see if a guy is gay or a girl is lesbian, not only by the way they dress or act. But also gay men often have more feminine facial features while some lesbians have masculine features.

I doubt you lived the exact same experiences, you went in the same c|ass es now were you.
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#36 foxhound_fox
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Actually, That's taken out of context. It's true, God is the only one to judge us, but that's judging us as a human being. We're allowed to judge what actions people do is wrong or not.

Oh, and before some person yells " BUT YOUR SUPPSED TO BELIV GAYS R BAD! ". The person who is " Gay " isn't bad. If he has urges, it's fine, But what he does with those urges can be bad. Thus the judging action thing.

ShadowTheHHFan

Please explain what is "bad" about homosexuality.
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#37 noswear
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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

there is a huge amount of evidence proving you wrong.

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#38 Vancelvany
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I believe it isn't wrong....

Though for me it isn't right...

I'm a straight guy...

Not some crook...:|

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]Actually, That's taken out of context. It's true, God is the only one to judge us, but that's judging us as a human being. We're allowed to judge what actions people do is wrong or not.

Oh, and before some person yells " BUT YOUR SUPPSED TO BELIV GAYS R BAD! ". The person who is " Gay " isn't bad. If he has urges, it's fine, But what he does with those urges can be bad. Thus the judging action thing.

ShadowTheHHFan


Please explain what is "bad" about homosexuality.

God said " Go into the world and be fertile ". Fertile meaning to reproduce. If a man( Or woman) Chooses to use those feel good when having sex feelings for anything other then being fertile. It's wrong. That's just how the cookie crumbles I suppose. God want's the world populated.

now i see where the ignorance comes from.... a fictional book!

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]Actually, That's taken out of context. It's true, God is the only one to judge us, but that's judging us as a human being. We're allowed to judge what actions people do is wrong or not.

Oh, and before some person yells " BUT YOUR SUPPSED TO BELIV GAYS R BAD! ". The person who is " Gay " isn't bad. If he has urges, it's fine, But what he does with those urges can be bad. Thus the judging action thing.

ShadowTheHHFan


Please explain what is "bad" about homosexuality.

God said " Go into the world and be fertile ". Fertile meaning to reproduce. If a man( Or woman) Chooses to use those feel good when having sex feelings for anything other then being fertile. It's wrong. That's just how the cookie crumbles I suppose. God want's the world populated.

Oh look, a theist trying to prove a point by quoting their holy book...far out.

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#42 noswear
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[QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]Actually, That's taken out of context. It's true, God is the only one to judge us, but that's judging us as a human being. We're allowed to judge what actions people do is wrong or not.

Oh, and before some person yells " BUT YOUR SUPPSED TO BELIV GAYS R BAD! ". The person who is " Gay " isn't bad. If he has urges, it's fine, But what he does with those urges can be bad. Thus the judging action thing.

bluntmastaslaya


Please explain what is "bad" about homosexuality.

God said " Go into the world and be fertile ". Fertile meaning to reproduce. If a man( Or woman) Chooses to use those feel good when having sex feelings for anything other then being fertile. It's wrong. That's just how the cookie crumbles I suppose. God want's the world populated.

now i see where the ignorance comes from.... a fictional book!

written thousands of years ago! it must still work in modern context!

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[QUOTE="Hinata237"]Absolutely not... People are born with their own unique sexual preferences, just as you are. You didn't choose to be straight, did you?ShadowTheHHFan

People aren't born gay They even say it's a choice of lifestyle.

That makes absolutely no sense. Why would you choose to be gay Why would you choose to like something?

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#45 bluntmastaslaya
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[QUOTE="bluntmastaslaya"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ShadowTheHHFan"]Actually, That's taken out of context. It's true, God is the only one to judge us, but that's judging us as a human being. We're allowed to judge what actions people do is wrong or not.

Oh, and before some person yells " BUT YOUR SUPPSED TO BELIV GAYS R BAD! ". The person who is " Gay " isn't bad. If he has urges, it's fine, But what he does with those urges can be bad. Thus the judging action thing.

ShadowTheHHFan


Please explain what is "bad" about homosexuality.

God said " Go into the world and be fertile ". Fertile meaning to reproduce. If a man( Or woman) Chooses to use those feel good when having sex feelings for anything other then being fertile. It's wrong. That's just how the cookie crumbles I suppose. God want's the world populated.

now i see where the ignorance comes from.... a fictional book!

Geez. I'm respecting of your beliefs. The least you can do is the same for me.

Like foxhound said either in this topic or the other. There is having a friendly debate. And then there's out right insulting.

im not trying to insulting, im just trying to explain that you base your morals and judgemental opinions based on a fictional book that was written thousands of years ago.

and we are all using logical arguments, but your only rebuttle is quoting from a fictional book

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Um,no...it's not wrong.
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God said " Go into the world and be fertile ". Fertile meaning to reproduce. If a man( Or woman) Chooses to use those feel good when having sex feelings for anything other then being fertile. It's wrong. That's just how the cookie crumbles I suppose. God want's the world populated.ShadowTheHHFan

"God said." Interpretation is an amazing tool. I remember seeing a passage of the Bible being interpreted to mean that a man should have anal sex with his wife in order to pleasure her more fully.

Homosexuality is a sexual preference. Heterosexuality is a sexual preference. Bisexuality is a sexual preference. Pansexuality is a sexual preference. Just because a book of mostly defunct moral lessons written several thousand years ago "says" that something is wrong does not mean that it actually is according to nature. Humans, whether created or not, have their own personal preferences for things and no other human being can in any way, objectively tell them that they are in some way "wrong" or "bad."

If God created man and God says that homosexuality is "wrong" then why did he create homosexuals? Oh wait, I know the answer to this, "free will" and "choice," people choose their preferences... that's right how could I be so wrong!

Tell me this. If God or society had said that heterosexuality was "wrong" and you being a heterosexual, could you CHOOSE to become homosexual, the "right" sexual preference? This is purely hypothetical, don't reply "but that's not the case." Assume it is the case and base your response off of that.

A human being (or animal) does not "choose" to be homosexual, they have a desire and they indulge it, in no way are you allowed to tell them they are "wrong" because for all you know, from a subjective perspective they might have, YOU are wrong. Homosexuality is as "right" as heterosexuality. It may not produce children but since when have humans had sex solely for producing children? Sex is about pleasure and loving intimacy between consenting partners. If those two consenting partners happen to be a male and female, then a child may be a result of them having sex.