Is being poor really that bad?

You hear many poloticians saying poverty needs to be eliminated or that it's unexcusable that we have poor in the US. But, is being poor really that bad? The best things in life are free. I say we need to quit treating "being poor" as some kind of disease or an unliveable condition. And, most poor people do have a roof over their head, food on the table, and clothes on thier back. Not everyone needs a two car garage, white picket fence, and a widescreen TV to be satisfied.pseudodog07

can you prove that?

also what wrong with a two car garage and a white picket fence. if you have worked hard your whole life, you deserve it.

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]You hear many poloticians saying poverty needs to be eliminated or that it's unexcusable that we have poor in the US. But, is being poor really that bad? The best things in life are free. I say we need to quit treating "being poor" as some kind of disease or an unliveable condition. And, most poor people do have a roof over their head, food on the table, and clothes on thier back. Not everyone needs a two car garage, white picket fence, and a widescreen TV to be satisfied.abe491

can you prove that?

No, but to my knowledge that's true. If some don't then thats a problem, but I think most of them do.

also what wrong with a two car garage and a white picket fence. if you have worked hard your whole life, you deserve it.

abe491

I'm not saying they don't deserve it. They do. But, everyone doesn't need all that to be satisfied.

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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]You hear many poloticians saying poverty needs to be eliminated or that it's unexcusable that we have poor in the US. But, is being poor really that bad? The best things in life are free. I say we need to quit treating "being poor" as some kind of disease or an unliveable condition. And, most poor people do have a roof over their head, food on the table, and clothes on thier back. Not everyone needs a two car garage, white picket fence, and a widescreen TV to be satisfied.pseudodog07

can you prove that?

No, but to my knowledge that's true. If some don't then thats a problem, but I think most of them do.

i say you better check your facts before assuming something you dont know for sure.

i say you better check your facts before assuming something you dont know for sure.

abe491

I think you are confusing homeless with poor.....

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also what wrong with a two car garage and a white picket fence. if you have worked hard your whole life, you deserve it.

pseudodog07

I'm not saying they don't deserve it. They do. But, everyone doesn't need all that to be satisfied.

I was poor in childhood, and it really sucked. Have you ever had your electricity/water/gas cut off, or had your belongings put out on the street after getting evicted....or even worse, had to LIVE WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! Its not fun. And when money is short, so is the food on the table. A cheeseburger and small fries for dinner. Lunch at school is the best meal of the day. kdt55

Yeah, I've been poor most of my adult life. I'm mainly talking about the poor who are satisfied with what they do have and how that's possible.

[QUOTE="kdt55"]I was poor in childhood, and it really sucked. Have you ever had your electricity/water/gas cut off, or had your belongings put out on the street after getting evicted....or even worse, had to LIVE WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! Its not fun. And when money is short, so is the food on the table. A cheeseburger and small fries for dinner. Lunch at school is the best meal of the day. pseudodog07

Yeah, I've been poor most of my adult life. I'm mainly talking about the poor who are satisfied with what they do have and how that's possible.

Man your pretty legendary, speaking out for all them poor people throughout the world.

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also what wrong with a two car garage and a white picket fence. if you have worked hard your whole life, you deserve it.

drowningfish999

I'm not saying they don't deserve it. They do. But, everyone doesn't need all that to be satisfied.

The pursuit of happiness can mean different things though.

If your poor and happy, then you win. I think its very rare though. As long as your not poor for that long, then all the struggles in your life will just make you stronger when you do have more money in your pocket. Some poor people just live with poverty with no attempt to better themselves. As I mentioned before, my parents were poor, but now there quite successful....maybe not that successful, but enough not to be poor.

I'll never look down on the poor and act as if its a choice like some people. Some people don't have enough $$$ for college and all the good paying, low skill jobs are gone. You used to be able to make an honest living just by putting in some big hours at the 'factory', but those jobs are being outsourced and they'll never come back.

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also what wrong with a two car garage and a white picket fence. if you have worked hard your whole life, you deserve it.

pseudodog07

I'm not saying they don't deserve it. They do. But, everyone doesn't need all that to be satisfied.

The pursuit of happiness can mean different things though.

This thread deserves a facepalm of biblical proportions.

Not only are your facts completely inaccurate, you may want to find some self morals as well.

But as an example, the richest 225 people of the world, have more money than the poorest 3 billion.
80% of the world is poor, and yet you sit around here saying they deserve nothing more?

There are entire cities in poor countries that live in garbage dumps... they scavenge what they can find and live in piles of trash, never leaving the dump for their entire lives. Not in North America or the even the majority of Europe, but they are out there, in the Philippines, and other third world countries.

The sex and drug trades are eminent in poor countries, some families have to sell their kids to child labour just to make a few dollars... and the jobs they and their children have pay less than a dollar (in equivalence to our dollar) a day. It is crazy and we have to do something about it.

Yet we sit here complaining that we do too much for them (we practically don't do anything as it is), and they're fine the way it is? Wtf is wrong with this picture?

I'd prefer not to be poor.....LJS9502_basic

i'm with you on that one

[QUOTE="kdt55"]I was poor in childhood, and it really sucked. Have you ever had your electricity/water/gas cut off, or had your belongings put out on the street after getting evicted....or even worse, had to LIVE WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! Its not fun. And when money is short, so is the food on the table. A cheeseburger and small fries for dinner. Lunch at school is the best meal of the day. pseudodog07

Yeah, I've been poor most of my adult life. I'm mainly talking about the poor who are satisfied with what they do have and how that's possible.

Who is happy being poor?

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[QUOTE="kdt55"]I was poor in childhood, and it really sucked. Have you ever had your electricity/water/gas cut off, or had your belongings put out on the street after getting evicted....or even worse, had to LIVE WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! Its not fun. And when money is short, so is the food on the table. A cheeseburger and small fries for dinner. Lunch at school is the best meal of the day. pseudodog07

Yeah, I've been poor most of my adult life. I'm mainly talking about the poor who are satisfied with what they do have and how that's possible.

If you have your own computer then you are not living in poverty...

Besides poverty in the west is nothing compared to poverty throughout the rest of the world.

Not only are your facts completely inaccurate, you may want to find some self morals as well.

But as an example, the richest 225 people of the world, have more money than the poorest 3 billion.
80% of the world is poor, and yet you sit around here saying they deserve nothing more?

There are entire cities in poor countries that live in garbage dumps... they scavenge what they can find and live in piles of trash, never leaving the dump for their entire lives. Not in North America or the even the majority of Europe, but they are out there, in the Philippines, and other third world countries.

The sex and drug trades are eminent in poor countries, some families have to sell their kids to child labour just to make a few dollars... and the jobs they and their children have pay less than a dollar (in equivalence to our dollar) a day. It is crazy and we have to do something about it.

Yet we sit here complaining that we do too much for them (we practically don't do anything as it is), and they're fine the way it is? Wtf is wrong with this picture?

awsss

Well said, imo the TC has a shameful attitude.

Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured.--Proverbs 13:18quiglythegreat

Yeah. That helps. :roll:

Looking for narrow, criminally over-simplfied justifications for poverty FTL my friend. FTL.

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[QUOTE="kdt55"]I was poor in childhood, and it really sucked. Have you ever had your electricity/water/gas cut off, or had your belongings put out on the street after getting evicted....or even worse, had to LIVE WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! Its not fun. And when money is short, so is the food on the table. A cheeseburger and small fries for dinner. Lunch at school is the best meal of the day. bradleybhoy

Yeah, I've been poor most of my adult life. I'm mainly talking about the poor who are satisfied with what they do have and how that's possible.

If you have your own computer then you are not living in poverty...

Besides poverty in the west is nothing compared to poverty throughout the rest of the world.

I'm clearly talking about conditions in the US and the national poverty standard which I'm under. I can own a computer, because I don't own a vehicle.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Poverty and shame shall be to him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured.--Proverbs 13:18bradleybhoy

Yeah. That helps. :roll:

Looking for narrow, criminally over-simplfied justifications for poverty FTL my friend. FTL.

As silly as it may sound, depends on how define "poor." Some people, to say the least, have loose definition on the word.

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[QUOTE="kdt55"]I was poor in childhood, and it really sucked. Have you ever had your electricity/water/gas cut off, or had your belongings put out on the street after getting evicted....or even worse, had to LIVE WITH YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! Its not fun. And when money is short, so is the food on the table. A cheeseburger and small fries for dinner. Lunch at school is the best meal of the day. pseudodog07

Yeah, I've been poor most of my adult life. I'm mainly talking about the poor who are satisfied with what they do have and how that's possible.

If you have your own computer then you are not living in poverty...

Besides poverty in the west is nothing compared to poverty throughout the rest of the world.

I'm clearly talking about conditions in the US and the national poverty standard which I'm under. I can own a computer, because I don't own a vehicle.

Oh the hardships you must face, the shame of the public transport system.

Poverty isn't a choice between a car or a computer, it's a choice between paying the bills or eating that day.

imo there should be a voluntary "poverty experience". Anyone like the TC who says poverty isn't as bad as it sounds can be made homeless for a week.

Oh the hardships you must face, the shame of the public transport system.

Poverty isn't a choice between a car or a computer, it's a choice between paying the bills or eating that day.

bradleybhoy

I've been there. Yeah that sucks. My post is mainly about people not needing a whole lot of things to be satisfied. And, learning to live happy within your means.

imo there should be a voluntary "poverty experience". Anyone like the TC who says poverty isn't as bad as it sounds can be made homeless for a week.

bradleybhoy

Your'e not even listening to the point I'm trying to make.

You need poverty so that society stay balanced. It works in the international stage and it works in a country.lancelot200

:lol:

Are we in oppositte land?

Social and economic stratification is the oppositte of social and economic balance. We'd need communism for that.

[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]Oh the hardships you must face, the shame of the public transport system.

Poverty isn't a choice between a car or a computer, it's a choice between paying the bills or eating that day.

pseudodog07

I've been there. Yeah that sucks. My post is mainly about people not needing a whole lot of things to be satisfied. And, learning to live happy within your means.

Sorry some of my comments were a bit rash.

I see your point. But consumerism and material gain are the de-facto aims of life in our society. You'd have to be extremely free-thinking to be satisfied with being poor because there is a great stigma attached to it and in the mainstream's it simply means your life isn't working.

On top of this it is often the things that we most lack that we most desire, and so going by that rule those in poverty want nothing more than to live comfortably but more often than not they don't have the means to achieve that way of life. This is why a lot of people resort to crime. Huey Newton described them as "illegitimate capitalists".

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]You hear many poloticians saying poverty needs to be eliminated or that it's unexcusable that we have poor in the US. But, is being poor really that bad? The best things in life are free. I say we need to quit treating "being poor" as some kind of disease or an unliveable condition. And, most poor people do have a roof over their head, food on the table, and clothes on thier back. Not everyone needs a two car garage, white picket fence, and a widescreen TV to be satisfied.abe491

can you prove that?

sure look at the ghettos in America, the guys got houses but their houses are full of bugs, dirt (most don't have a floor), and other such nonsense