Is cannibalism ever morally permissable?

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#1 kipohippo021
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In english, we were filling out an opinion packet because we were going to have some class debates. Well, when the question "Is cannibalism ever morally permissable?" came up, i was suprised. I was the only one who awnsered yes. Im just trying to get some intelligent opinions on this. Oh and yes, im back.

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#2 Pirate700
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I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

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#3 rragnaar
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I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

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That's how I see it. Killing someone to eat them isn't cool. Eating someone that is already dead because you need to survive seems alright.
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#4 Overlord93
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I think I'll go with yes, I mean, if you are starving, and the person is going to die, and they say to you that if they die, they want something good to come out of it, (saving you) and say that they want you to eat them. then yes.

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#5 Rocky32189
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In a survival situation, of course, as long as you don't kill someone for that purpose. If they died of natural causes first, then I don't see a problem.
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#6 hotfiree
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Yeah, but I couldnt do it. Gross.
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#7 xTheExploited
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The Argentinian rugby team that got stranded in the Andes is a perfect example of how it can be justified.
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#8 Mr_Anderson1817
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some ppl eat placentas for "cultural" reasons. i think it'd be permissible if you and a friend were starving out in the desert or something and you made a pact that the guy who dies first would want the living guy to eat him for sustenance. I don't think id do it thou

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#9 Oleg_Huzwog
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With the right seasoning, yes.

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#10 kipohippo021
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What about tribal people? If its in their culture to eat people, i dont see how that morraly wrong. Personally, i dont think i could ever eat a human being, but thats probably my full belly talking.
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#11 alexside1
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Well it sure won't taste good. That I can guaranteed.
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#12 kipohippo021
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With the right seasoning, yes.

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Rosemary and lemon, delicious.

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#13 Immortal--
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I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

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Pretty much this.
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#14 nocoolnamejim
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I'm thinking that if it comes down to the difference between living and dying, a whole lot of things become morally permissible.
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#15 rcignoni
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As de Montaigne puts it, "Que sais-je?"
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#16 Jipset
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I could be depending on the circumstances.

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#17 metroidfood
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I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

Pirate700

Yeah this.

I know there are still a few cultures that still eat the dead for other reasons, but... ick is all I can say.

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#18 msudude211
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

rragnaar
That's how I see it. Killing someone to eat them isn't cool. Eating someone that is already dead because you need to survive seems alright.

My thoughts as well.
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#19 ProudLarry
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Yeah it is. Aside from stories like the Donner Party and that rugby team that crashed in the Andes, you can find examples in maritime stories of survivors of shipwrecks crews having to survive by eating the dead as well. If its a matter of survival and the person in question is already dead, I don't see a real moral problem with it.
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#20 poptart
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Should be a bit like fishing - you can only eat them when they reach a certain size.

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#21 kipohippo021
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Yeah it is. Aside from stories like the Donner Party and that rugby team that crashed in the Andes, you can find examples in maritime stories of survivors of shipwrecks crews having to survive by eating the dead as well. If its a matter of survival and the person in question is already dead, I don't see a real moral problem with it. ProudLarry
There is a huge puke factor with it though.
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#22 redstorm72
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I don't see any problem with it as long as you didn't kill them and there is no alternative food source. I probably wouldn't eat someone I knew, that would just be creepy (well, more creepy than it already was).

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#23 ProudLarry
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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"]Yeah it is. Aside from stories like the Donner Party and that rugby team that crashed in the Andes, you can find examples in maritime stories of survivors of shipwrecks crews having to survive by eating the dead as well. If its a matter of survival and the person in question is already dead, I don't see a real moral problem with it. kipohippo021
There is a huge puke factor with it though.

You can't puke if there's nothing in your stomach!
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#24 Meinhard1
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I would say only if 1. they're already dead and it is necessary to survival. or 2. you have the persons consent and it is necessary to survival. If it's necessary to survival BUT the other person who's in the same boat as you does not agree to allow her/himself to be eaten then the act is morally reprehensible and also you are disgusting.
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#25 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="ProudLarry"]Yeah it is. Aside from stories like the Donner Party and that rugby team that crashed in the Andes, you can find examples in maritime stories of survivors of shipwrecks crews having to survive by eating the dead as well. If its a matter of survival and the person in question is already dead, I don't see a real moral problem with it. ProudLarry
There is a huge puke factor with it though.

You can't puke if there's nothing in your stomach!

True, very true. But whats the point of eating flesh to survive if you will only throw it up?
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#26 T_REX305
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I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

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agree. dont put there dead body to waste

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#27 teknic1200
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I don't see any problem with it as long as you didn't kill them and there is no alternative food source. I probably wouldn't eat someone I knew, that would just be creepy (well, more creepy than it already was).

redstorm72
you'd rather die then eat your dead friend?
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#28 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="teknic1200"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I don't see any problem with it as long as you didn't kill them and there is no alternative food source. I probably wouldn't eat someone I knew, that would just be creepy (well, more creepy than it already was).

you'd rather die then eat your dead friend?

I would. I couldnt bear to do it.
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#29 Agent-Zero
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Cannibalism; Sometimes acceptable. Always tasty.
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#30 garathe_den
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I'd rather die, than do that

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#32 alexside1
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You could get sick and die from eat that though.
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#33 msudude211
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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] There is a huge puke factor with it though. kipohippo021
You can't puke if there's nothing in your stomach!

True, very true. But whats the point of eating flesh to survive if you will only throw it up?

Even when you have an empty stomach, won't you still vomit stomach acids? :P But by the time one has resorted to cannibalism, I would think that the "vomit factor" would be almost nonexistent. By that time, anything that resembles food would probably be welcome.
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#34 Dawq902
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If you are stranded and starving with a group of people and one dies you should eat them (if it's consenual lol). If I was stranded with like one or two other people and one of them/they died I would not eat them. I would just feel so bad.

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#35 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="ProudLarry"] You can't puke if there's nothing in your stomach!msudude211
True, very true. But whats the point of eating flesh to survive if you will only throw it up?

Even when you have an empty stomach, won't you still vomit stomach acids? :P But by the time one has resorted to cannibalism, I would think that the "vomit factor" would be almost nonexistent. By that time, anything that resembles food would probably be welcome.

I dont think you can throw up stomach acid, it would probably destroy your pipes.
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#36 msudude211
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I dont think you can throw up stomach acid, it would probably destroy your pipes. kipohippo021
I'm pretty sure you can. Even when you vomit normally, you're still expelling stomach acid with whatever's in your stomach, and the esophagus doesn't get destroyed unless you're chronically vomiting. I don't see how expelling it alone is that much different.
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#37 thecharmedbaja
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What about that story which came out a while back about the man who advertised for a 'victim' and somebody actually came back to him and accepted?

Do you think that should be allowed - they've got the person's consent, after all... though would they have to wait for that person to die naturally, or kill them off?

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#38 Metal_Mario99
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I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

Pirate700

This. Otherwise, no.

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#39 redstorm72
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[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

I don't see any problem with it as long as you didn't kill them and there is no alternative food source. I probably wouldn't eat someone I knew, that would just be creepy (well, more creepy than it already was).

teknic1200

you'd rather die then eat your dead friend?

Depends how good a friend they were :P

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#40 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]I dont think you can throw up stomach acid, it would probably destroy your pipes. msudude211
I'm pretty sure you can. Even when you vomit normally, you're still expelling stomach acid with whatever's in your stomach, and the esophagus doesn't get destroyed unless you're chronically vomiting. I don't see how expelling it alone is that much different.

Its alot more concentrated.
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#41 ShootingPwnage
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There generally is a concensus on the reason whycannibalism would be permissable. That is because of survival. There have many instances of such things.

-The Uruguyan rugby team that ate those who deceased in the plane crash. They later admitted that human flesh had a good 'sweet' taste to it (movie based on this, ALIVE)

-Soldiers who fled on a raft fromthe Bay of Pigs incident, ate those who died while they were lost at sea.

An instance where it was considered immoral but still permissable:

-Two adults and a child were stranded on an islandafter their ship had sunk. After several days, the two adults killed the child and ate him. A fewdays later, they were rescued. They were not charged with murder and the actions were deemed to have been caused by survival instincts. The three persons were not related in any way.

People generally would disagree in the morality of this issue, but there are things to consider. Even though many say they would never do it, you cant be so sure when your body goes into survival mode (your body wants to live) and you must what is necessary to survive.

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#42 kipohippo021
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People generally would disagree in the morality of this issue, but there are things to consider. Even though many say they would never do it, you cant be so sure when your body goes into survival mode (your body wants to live) and you must what is necessary to survive.

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Thats why i cant say for sure. Id like to think that my values are strong enough to not eat somebody, but i just dont know.

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It is if you are hungry

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#44 Pixel-Pirate
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Yes if you were stranded somewhere. Unless it'd be a better idea for both to die.

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#45 darkfox101
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Well what kind of spices/sauce are we talkin here?
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#46 ZombieNoob
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Well what kind of spices/sauce are we talkin here?darkfox101

Nothing I think. Only pure, raw meat. Cool, ha ?

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#47 Rckstrchik
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I guess if you were stranded and someone you didn't kill was already dead you could if you had to.

rragnaar
That's how I see it. Killing someone to eat them isn't cool. Eating someone that is already dead because you need to survive seems alright.

Agreed. I really don't think i'd be able to do it though.
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#48 kipohippo021
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Yes if you were stranded somewhere. Unless it'd be a better idea for both to die.

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[QUOTE="msudude211"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"]I dont think you can throw up stomach acid, it would probably destroy your pipes. kipohippo021
I'm pretty sure you can. Even when you vomit normally, you're still expelling stomach acid with whatever's in your stomach, and the esophagus doesn't get destroyed unless you're chronically vomiting. I don't see how expelling it alone is that much different.

Its alot more concentrated.

Yah. It's not good for you, but it happens.
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#50 incred_davis
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depends on your morals.. silly.