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#1 BMD004
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Topic.

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#2 KiIIyou
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Money is gold.
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#3 -Sun_Tzu-
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No it's not. It's an asset.
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#4 PcGamingRig
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it used to be.

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#5 scorch-62
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No. Gold is gold.
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kinda

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#8 HerbieCucumber
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Rocks can't be money. How the hell would vending machines work with rocks?
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#9 VisigothSaxon
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Gold is Treasure

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#10 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="HerbieCucumber"]Rocks can't be money. How the hell would vending machines work with rocks?

You obviously aren't familiar with Flintstonian economics.
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#11 Pirate700
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No it's not. It's an asset. -Sun_Tzu-
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#12 markop2003
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Depends on the geometry. Chinese Gold Pandas are legal tender in the PRC.
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#14 poptart
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Gold like most things has a monetary value. You can trade gold for money, just like you trade your old washing machine for money. Neither would be accepted as currency down the local supermarket.

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#15 PcGamingRig
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Gold like most things has a monetary value. You can trade gold for money, just like you trade your old washing machine for money. Neither would be accepted as currency down the local supermarket.

poptart

what happens if i took a bar of gold in to buy a packet of crisps.

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#16 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="poptart"]

Gold like most things has a monetary value. You can trade gold for money, just like you trade your old washing machine for money. Neither would be accepted as currency down the local supermarket.

PcGamingRig

what happens if i took a bar of gold in to buy a packet of crisps.

You would probably given the store if the bar is big enough.

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#17 mrbojangles25
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Gold like most things has a monetary value. You can trade gold for money, just like you trade your old washing machine for money. Neither would be accepted as currency down the local supermarket.

poptart

:lol:

Sir, we don't accept washing machines here

But this is worth 100 dollars, my groceries are worth 100 dollars...its an even trade!

Sir, please take the washing machine off the counter!

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Sorry, funny visual image I needed to share.

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#18 MistressMinako
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Maybe in the world filled with pirates.
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#19 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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No it is not. Gold is a precious metal. Money is a type of paper/coin currency.

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#20 kweeni
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It was a few years ago.
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#21 NirdBerd
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Isn't Gold money as much as Titanium is; Metal that's worth a lot of money

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#24 WhiteKnight77
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Isn't Gold money as much as Titanium is; Metal that's worth a lot of money

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I believe that you are thinking of platinum, something even more precious than gold and rhodium is even more precious than all the others.

Metals
Date
Time
(EST)
Bid
Ask
Change
Low
High

GOLD
07/13/2011
17:15
1582.60
1583.60
+15.30
+0.98%
1571.60
1589.40

SILVER
07/13/2011
17:15
38.23
38.33
+2.08
+5.75%
36.67
38.43

PLATINUM
07/13/2011
17:13
1753.00
1763.00
+24.00
+1.39%
1743.00
1777.00

PALLADIUM
07/13/2011
17:13
774.00
781.00
+9.00
+1.18%
773.00
795.00




RHODIUM
07/13/2011
18:00
1,975.00
2,075.00 0.00 0.00%

If you wanna know why catalytic converters are a hot commodity and are being stolen, 3 of the above metals are in them and it isn't gold or silver.

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#25 NirdBerd
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I'm not too clever in 'metal knowledge' but I'm aware there are higher quality metals than Gold, I was just sayin; Gold's a metal that's worth somethin, so is [random example of another metal] :)

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#26 whet40
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According to the constitution, only gold and silver are legal tender.

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#27 BMD004
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Who has the final say as to what is money and what isn't money?

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#28 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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It used to be. Now it's just an asset, or wealth, however you want to phrase it.

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#30 WhiteKnight77
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I'm not too clever in 'metal knowledge' but I'm aware there are higher quality metals than Gold, I was just sayin; Gold's a metal that's worth somethin, so is [random example of another metal] :)

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It's all good. Titanium is an expensive metal too, but needs to be treated carefully as chromium based metals can cause corrosion in a normally corrosive resistant material. Thus tools or dies (such as used to create coins) need to be made of other metals that will not cause problems with it.

Honestly, I am not a metallurgist either, I just inspect metal stuff, usually carbon or stainless steel items, but have inspected titanium vessels in the past at a chemical plant. My knowledge of catalytic converters comes from being a mechanic at one time.

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#31 Fundai
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Gold standard atleast kept the economies of the world more stable, maybe it did hold growth back though.

Yes, Gold Can be money, but it isn't always the case.

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#32 -Sun_Tzu-
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Who has the final say as to what is money and what isn't money?

BMD004
The government has the most say but no one entity really has the final say. It all depends on what form of payment most people accept.
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#33 GreySeal9
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BTW, folks, I think this is what inspired this thread (though BMD004 can correct me if I'm wrong):http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/13/bernanke_to_ron_paul_gold_is_not_money.html

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#34 BMD004
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BTW, folks, I think this is what inspired this thread (though BMD004 can correct me if I'm wrong):http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/13/bernanke_to_ron_paul_gold_is_not_money.html

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You are correct.

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#36 carrot-cake
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Our currency was once based on gold but is now based mainly on our belief it's worth something.

InEMplease


Well, gold is only worth so much because we give it such a high value. Same thing with out pretty coloured pieces of paper we call currency.

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#38 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Our currency was once based on gold but is now based mainly on our belief it's worth something.

carrot-cake


Well, gold is only worth so much because we give it such a high value. Same thing with out pretty coloured pieces of paper we call currency.

Gold is worth so much because it is a rare metal that happens to have a high demand in jewellery (cause its very prettiful when combined with some old carbon) and electronics. High demand, low supply = expensive.

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#39 Aquat1cF1sh
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Maybe indirectly... But then that means other expensive valuables are money too. So...
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#40 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Our currency was once based on gold but is now based mainly on our belief it's worth something.

InEMplease


Well, gold is only worth so much because we give it such a high value. Same thing with out pretty coloured pieces of paper we call currency.

The thing is, there's about 50sq.ft. of gold on the entire planet (last I checked), whereas we can print as many colorful pieces of paper as we like.

What do you do if you have a gold standard when there's deflation though?

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#41 poptart
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Our currency was once based on gold but is now based mainly on our belief it's worth something.

InEMplease


Well, gold is only worth so much because we give it such a high value. Same thing with out pretty coloured pieces of paper we call currency.

The thing is, there's about 50sq.ft. of gold on the entire planet (last I checked), whereas we can print as many colorful pieces of paper as we like.

50sq ft? Nooooooooooooo there's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than that...

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#42 CJL182
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I don't believe gold is legal tender.

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#43 gcfreak898
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Gold is worth more than money. Great investment too.

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#44 poptart
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Gold is worth more than money. Great investment too.

gcfreak898

How is gold worth more than money?

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#45 Ilikemyname420
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Come August 7th it will be the only legal tender.....at least in the US :twisted:

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#46 CHOASXIII
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Well of course silly dilly otherwise people wouldn't accept it as payment now would they?

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#49 nocoolnamejim
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Gold is WORTH money. Otherwise? No. The gold standard has been abandoned for something like 50 years now and, despite the requests of folks like Ron Paul, isn't ever coming back. So, no, gold is only money if you're playing a game like Dragon Age.
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#50 _R34LiTY_
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Gold is a commodity