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#1 Devour2Survive
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hating a black guy for being black?
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#2 -KinGz-
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hating a black guy for being black?Devour2Survive
Thats what I was thinking and IMO its exactly the same thing.
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#3 Chogyam
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is the ugly person black??
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#4 harashawn
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Yes. Hating someone because of their outward appearance is never right. Actually, hating someone for any reason is just wrong.
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#5 FragStains
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No. There are inherent characteristics of being ugly that are always present. An ugly person will always make babies cry, break mirrors, have no one to rollerskate with, and have bad breath.
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#6 Empty_World
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Yes. Both are shallow reasons.
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#7 DigitalExile
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No, one is racism, the other isn't. >_>.
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#8 Devour2Survive
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No. There are inherent characteristics of being ugly that are always present. An ugly person will always make babies cry, break mirrors, have no one to rollerskate with, and have bad breath.FragStains
Bah, totally inaccurate, babies love me.
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#9 Setsa
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Well, you're still hating them because they are different and possibly a minority, so yeah.
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#10 Cherokee_Jack
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Not really the same thing. I can't imagine anyone actually hating someone for being ugly, though. Excluding them from their social circle, yes, but hatred isn't a common reaction to ugliness.

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#11 gobo212
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Interesting question. My feeling is that they are not on the same level. I don't condone hating anyone especially due to outward appearance but judging someone by their skin color somehow seems worse. It's probably just because I was socialized to think "racism=bad racism=bad" while not getting a comparable message about hating the less attractive.
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#12 momo372
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I have my own question, I am glad this topic is here cause I thought i had to make an entire new topic.

Is it alright to be angry at someone when they begin to brag about their problems and accomplishments, but when I do the same thing to them they dont want to talk to me?

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#13 auron_16
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hating a black guy for being black?Devour2Survive
no, that's racism
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#14 foxhound_fox
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Both are forms of discrimination.
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#15 darksword1123
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No that relation doesn't make any sense.
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#16 Oleg_Huzwog
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Nope, racism isn't justifiable.
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#17 Devour2Survive
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No that relation doesn't make any sense.darksword1123
Well why not?
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#18 harashawn
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Nope, racism isn't justifiable.Oleg_Huzwog
And hating someone because they're "ugly" is?
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#19 tzar3
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No it isn't, hating someone because of their ethnicity or ugliness are two different things.

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#20 darksword1123
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[QUOTE="darksword1123"]No that relation doesn't make any sense.Devour2Survive
Well why not?

Hating a black person for being black is racism. Hating someone for being ugly has nothing to do with race just physical appearance.
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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"][QUOTE="darksword1123"]No that relation doesn't make any sense.darksword1123
Well why not?

Hating a black person for being black is racism. Hating someone for being ugly has nothing to do with race just physical appearance.

And race has nothing to do with physical appearance?
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#22 foxhound_fox
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Hating a black person for being black is racism. Hating someone for being ugly has nothing to do with race just physical appearance.darksword1123

Racism stems almost solely from the colour of a person's skin.

Hating someone for being fat is discrimination.
Hating someone for being ugly is discrimination.
Hating someone for being a woman is discrimination.
Hating someone for being of a different ethnicity than you is discrimination.
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#23 darksword1123
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="Devour2Survive"] Well why not?

Hating a black person for being black is racism. Hating someone for being ugly has nothing to do with race just physical appearance.

And race has nothing to do with physical appearance?

Depends on your preferences....but race =/= being ugly....they aren't the same thing.
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#24 Cherokee_Jack
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Depends on your preferences....but race =/= being ugly....they aren't the same thing.darksword1123
Technically, but hating someone because of a characteristic they were born with is still baseless bigotry.
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#25 darksword1123
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[QUOTE="darksword1123"]Hating a black person for being black is racism. Hating someone for being ugly has nothing to do with race just physical appearance.foxhound_fox
Racism stems almost solely from the colour of a person's skin.Hating someone for being fat is discrimination.Hating someone for being ugly is discrimination.Hating someone for being a woman is discrimination.Hating someone for being of a different ethnicity than you is discrimination.

Exactly black people are a race Hating someone for being black=racism Hating someone for being ugly=/=racism
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#26 darksword1123
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[QUOTE="darksword1123"]Depends on your preferences....but race =/= being ugly....they aren't the same thing.Cherokee_Jack
Technically, but hating someone because of a characteristic they were born with is still baseless bigotry.

They are both wrong yes.....but the TC asked if they were the same thing and I personally don't think they are.
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#27 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="darksword1123"]Depends on your preferences....but race =/= being ugly....they aren't the same thing.darksword1123
Technically, but hating someone because of a characteristic they were born with is still baseless bigotry.

They are both wrong yes.....but the TC asked if they were the same thing and I personally don't think they are.

I think he wanted to know if they were morally comparable, not if their technical definition was the same, which it obviously isn't.
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#28 foxhound_fox
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Exactly black people are a race Hating someone for being black=racism Hating someone for being ugly=/=racismdarksword1123

And who was the one in this thread who made that connection originally? Even the TC just asked is hating someone for being ugly the same thing as being black. They are both discrimination.
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#29 darksword1123
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[QUOTE="darksword1123"]Exactly black people are a race Hating someone for being black=racism Hating someone for being ugly=/=racismfoxhound_fox
And who was the one in this thread who made that connection originally? Even the TC just asked is hating someone for being ugly the same thing as being black. They are both discrimination.

*sigh*
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#30 darksword1123
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="darksword1123"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Technically, but hating someone because of a characteristic they were born with is still baseless bigotry.

They are both wrong yes.....but the TC asked if they were the same thing and I personally don't think they are.

I think he wanted to know if they were morally comparable, not if their technical definition was the same, which it obviously isn't.

Well yeah they're morally compatible....sorry I think of things in technical terms often. :P