Is Heath Ledger overrated?

I think he is slightly, dont get me wrong I think he is a great actor and it is a shame he died so young. But before the dark knight came out I didnt pay much attention to him aside from maybe Brokeback mountain. His acting in The Dark Knight was fantastic, but my favorite villian is still Rutger Hauer from the original version of The Hitcher and also Rutger hauer in Blade Runner was great because while he was a villian, he was still a complex character with lots of emotions.

The Joker however was pretty much just acted crazy and Anarchic, which to me was not as interesting as Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner. Heath Ledger was still great as the Joker, that I dont think can be denied.

Leave the dead alone sheesh...CoolSkAGuy

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

Who cares?

He was great as the Joker. The end.

I do love Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner, but he was meant to serve a different purpose.

[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Ilived

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

It'll be hard to figure out whether that or WALL-E is better at the end of the year. Only movie I expect could surpass both is The Man from London, but who knows when we'll see that? :(

Leave the dead alone sheesh...CoolSkAGuy

Why? Are we not supposed to say anything critical of the dead? I don't want to sound mean or offensive, but just because someone is dead doesnt mean they are suddenly perfect and invulnerable to all criticism. However, I will not critisize him for no reason or to be offensive on purpose, I have seen too many people make fun of him for no good reason already and that I think is going a bit far.

Slightly yes. He was a good actor but doesn't deserve all the hype he got.

[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

Why? Are we not supposed to say anything critical of the dead? I don't want to sound mean or offensive, but just because someone is dead doesnt mean they are suddenly perfect and invulnerable to all criticism. However, I will not critisize him for no reason or to be offensive on purpose, I have seen too many people make fun of him for no good reason already and that I think is going a bit far.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

It doesn't really seem so when you just had to make a thread about The Dark Knight being overrated and now Heath Ledger.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...A_Tarkovsky

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

It'll be hard to figure out whether that or WALL-E is better at the end of the year. Only movie I expect could surpass both is The Man from London, but who knows when we'll see that? :(

I think that might already be out in the U.K. I am also looking forward to Burn after reading and the curious case of Benjamin Button. Also I heard Rumors that Tree of life, Terrence Malick's new film, may actually come out sooner than you think:)

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Ilived

Why? Are we not supposed to say anything critical of the dead? I don't want to sound mean or offensive, but just because someone is dead doesnt mean they are suddenly perfect and invulnerable to all criticism. However, I will not critisize him for no reason or to be offensive on purpose, I have seen too many people make fun of him for no good reason already and that I think is going a bit far.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

It doesn't really seem so when you just had to make a thread about The Dark Knight being overrated and now Heath Ledger.

Just because I think a movie is overrated doesnt mean I dont really like it. I just dont think its the best movie ever like some do, is that wrong?

First Knight proves that statement wrong...and yes I do mean First Knight, great moviejohnnyv2003

I never saw that one, then again he isnt even listed as being in that movie on IMDB.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

Why? Are we not supposed to say anything critical of the dead? I don't want to sound mean or offensive, but just because someone is dead doesnt mean they are suddenly perfect and invulnerable to all criticism. However, I will not critisize him for no reason or to be offensive on purpose, I have seen too many people make fun of him for no good reason already and that I think is going a bit far.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

It doesn't really seem so when you just had to make a thread about The Dark Knight being overrated and now Heath Ledger.

Just because I think a movie is overrated doesnt mean I dont really like it. I just dont think its the best movie ever like some do, is that wrong?

I didn't either, many people in here didn't...but you don't see me making threads about it. What's the problem here? Is it something you just can't put in your blog? I really don't think you liked the movie much, because you are letting the 'Dark Knight wasn't that great' or the 'Heath Ledger wasn't that great' emotions take over the 'I thought it was a really good movie.'

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Ilived

Why? Are we not supposed to say anything critical of the dead? I don't want to sound mean or offensive, but just because someone is dead doesnt mean they are suddenly perfect and invulnerable to all criticism. However, I will not critisize him for no reason or to be offensive on purpose, I have seen too many people make fun of him for no good reason already and that I think is going a bit far.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Leave the dead alone sheesh...Film-Guy

He should just leave The Dark Knight in general alone.

But I liked the Dark Knight:|

It doesn't really seem so when you just had to make a thread about The Dark Knight being overrated and now Heath Ledger.

Just because I think a movie is overrated doesnt mean I dont really like it. I just dont think its the best movie ever like some do, is that wrong?

I didn't either, many people in here didn't...but you don't see me making threads about it. What's the problem here? Is it something you just can't put in your blog? I really don't think you liked the movie much, because you are letting the 'Dark Knight wasn't that great' or the 'Heath Ledger wasn't that great' emotions take over the 'I thought it was a really good movie.'

I can put my opinion of the dark knight and heath ledger in my blog sure, but I am just interested to see what other people think of the subject too. Thats why I made a thread about them. I wouldnt make a thread just to state my opinion and ignore all others, I want to see what everyone else thinks too. Its not just here I am referring to when I say people who think the dark knight is the best movie ever, its at my school too. I know its their opinion and its ok for them to think that, I am just intersted to know why they think that. I wont argue with them and say they are wrong for liking the dark knight that much.

He did a good job but people wouldn't be as impressed if he was still alive.SolidSnake35

He did a good job but people wouldn't be as impressed if he was still alive.SolidSnake35

They would have felt the same way if he were alive after The Dark Knight was released.

Only as the Joker. Don't get me wrong, he did a nice job, but really...it wasn't amazing or anything.Ilived

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]He did a good job but people wouldn't be as impressed if he was still alive.sammyjenkis898

They would have felt the same way if he were alive after The Dark Knight was released.

I agree, his Joker performance doesnt get better or worse depending on whether he is alive or not.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]He did a good job but people wouldn't be as impressed if he was still alive.Film-Guy

They would have felt the same way if he were alive after The Dark Knight was released.

I agree, his Joker performance doesnt get better or worse depending on whether he is alive or not.

Exactly. I'm glad you agree.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]He did a good job but people wouldn't be as impressed if he was still alive.sammyjenkis898

They would have felt the same way if he were alive after The Dark Knight was released.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]He did a good job but people wouldn't be as impressed if he was still alive.sammyjenkis898

They would have felt the same way if he were alive after The Dark Knight was released.

His performance as the Joker certainly wouldn't be as praised and publicised if he were still alive.Bourbons3

I dont think it would be as publicised, but I think the praise would stay pretty similar.

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]His performance as the Joker certainly wouldn't be as praised and publicised if he were still alive.Film-Guy

I dont think it would be as publicised, but I think the praise would stay pretty similar.

yes and I think the hype would have grown even more because now everyone would be talking about how awesome he was, and cant wait to see him do it again.

Yes he sucked and people only like him cuz he's dead and the joker...x2926014

I wouldnt say he sucked...or maybe I am missing the sarcasm here.

Leave the dead alone sheesh...CoolSkAGuy

I didn't care for the Dark Knight, but I will acknowledge that he's a talented actor. However, I think it's annoying that nobody cared about Ledger pre-Dark Knight. It's a shame that he's dead, but it was his own fault.

Personally, I thought Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder was better than Ledger in Dark Knight. Less-serious movies are more of my thing, though.

"I don't read the script, the script reads me."

no, he's deadcomp_atkins