Is India a real democracy- i don't think so.

Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

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The caste system is illegal in India, it is merely culture that keeps it alive.

As for extremism you will find that in every country. You act as if the government is starting these attacks which they are not. As for the RSS their not a pretty bunch but in such an ethnically diverse country where all religions and cultures want their own land you will always get cases like this. i'm nto syaing it's right but it will get stamped out eventually.

Is America a real democracy?SpaceMoose

It's a constiutional republic.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Is America a real democracy?sonicare

It's a constiutional republic.

...which is also debatable.

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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Is America a real democracy?SpaceMoose

It's a constiutional republic.

...which is also debatable.

How so?

Yep, time to invade india

but whatever will happen to Mircosoft customer support

Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

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whipassmt

since when does democracy have to be a nice thing? Religious tolerance and democracy do NOT go hand in hand, if anything democracy promotes intolerance.

the rule of the majority = the tyranny of the majority. this is why the us isnt a democracy, and actually a republic.

How so?

sonicare

Paperless voting machines for starters.

Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

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whipassmt

Is America a real democracy?SpaceMoose

Ditto

real democracy is one of the worst forms of government.H8sMikeMoore

A true democracy is not possible on large scale terms. Nothing would ever get done.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]real democracy is one of the worst forms of government.sonicare

A true democracy is not possible on large scale terms. Nothing would ever get done.

usually.

but the majority might vote to be tyrannical and that would probably get done. if america was a democracy, it would quickly turn into a theocracy

I live in India.If I remember correctly,more than 85% of the population is Hindu.Christianity is like 2% or less.So you can see the difference.And you know what they are teaching kid's in school?That India is the world's largest democracy.The caste system is not illegal.Caste discrimination is illegal but it is still an everyday practice.Some politicians for gaining votes have passed laws that favour certain castes.Like there is a reservation quota for medical schools and good colleges.Riots have taken place when some castes demand to be included in these Scheduled Castes or Backward Classes.Women discrimination is a large problem also.When a bill was introduces in the parliament to reserve 33% of the seats for women the male politicians grabbed the documents and tore it on national t.v.Harshvardhan666

That's pretty darn scary. It's as if they've adopted capitalism but decided to keep slavery just for the sake of convenience. Discrimination of women is a problem in most parts of the world, but still.Ever read The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy?

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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]real democracy is one of the worst forms of government.H8sMikeMoore

A true democracy is not possible on large scale terms. Nothing would ever get done.

usually.

but the majority might vote to be tyrannical and that would probably get done. if america was a democracy, it would quickly turn into a theocracy

I have heard that democracy is the "monarchy of the majority."

Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

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whipassmt

Americas democracy can be questioned to sometimes ;)

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Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

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snakes_codec

Americas democracy can be questioned to sometimes ;)

especially because america has never been a democracy in the first place, and never wanted to be one. for good reason

The case system is, for the most part, nonexistent in urban areas. Technically speaking, the US isn't a real democracy either.

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Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

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and here is another one

H8sMikeMoore

Americas democracy can be questioned to sometimes ;)

especially because america has never been a democracy in the first place, and never wanted to be one. for good reason

tho you think your the most free country in the world witch is the biggest joke ever :lol:

"tho you think your the most free country in the world witch is the biggest joke ever"

So who is? Britain, with their obsessive placement of security cameras? Canada, with their "Human Rights Commission" kangaroo courts? Tell me so I can move there.

"tho you think your the most free country in the world witch is the biggest joke ever"

So who is? Britain, with their obsessive placement of security cameras? Canada, with their "Human Rights Commission" kangaroo courts? Tell me so I can move there.

Cherokee_Jack

hey I'm not say that my country is the most free country in the world because if i said that id probably laugh at myself :lol:

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Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

Here is the story

and here is another one

snakes_codec

Americas democracy can be questioned to sometimes ;)

especially because america has never been a democracy in the first place, and never wanted to be one. for good reason

tho you think your the most free country in the world witch is the biggest joke ever :lol:

In regards to individual rights and freedoms? Name me a country that values the individual over society more than the US. Most countries tend to put what's best for society over individual freedoms.

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"]I live in India.If I remember correctly,more than 85% of the population is Hindu.Christianity is like 2% or less.So you can see the difference.And you know what they are teaching kid's in school?That India is the world's largest democracy.The caste system is not illegal.Caste discrimination is illegal but it is still an everyday practice.Some politicians for gaining votes have passed laws that favour certain castes.Like there is a reservation quota for medical schools and good colleges.Riots have taken place when some castes demand to be included in these Scheduled Castes or Backward Classes.Women discrimination is a large problem also.When a bill was introduces in the parliament to reserve 33% of the seats for women the male politicians grabbed the documents and tore it on national t.v.inoperativeRS

That's pretty darn scary. It's as if they've adopted capitalism but decided to keep slavery just for the sake of convenience. Discrimination of women is a problem in most parts of the world, but still.Ever read The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy?

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Increasingly Hindu extremism has been growing in India. With some provinces passing laws that persecute Christian missionaries, and with a growth of extremist attacks on convents and churches. Until there is religious tolerance in India, it is not a real democracy. The U.S. should boycott Indian products and perhaps, we should bring a UN sanction against India. Also, the traditional caste system in India prevents it from being a true democracy.

Here is the story

and here is another one

sonicare

Americas democracy can be questioned to sometimes ;)

especially because america has never been a democracy in the first place, and never wanted to be one. for good reason

tho you think your the most free country in the world witch is the biggest joke ever :lol:

In regards to individual rights and freedoms? Name me a country that values the individual over society more than the US. Most countries tend to put what's best for society over individual freedoms.

but freedom can be taken to far in America you have the freedom to go up to someone and shoot them dead shore you will go to prison but it was his freedom of choice you mite have the most freedom of choice but when you have certain people armed to the teeth walking the streets terrorising innocent people that ain't freedom ;)

"but freedom can be taken to far in America you have the freedom to go up to someone and shoot them dead shore you will go to prison but it was his freedom of choice you mite have the most freedom of choice but when you have certain people armed to the teeth walking the streets terrorising innocent people that ain't freedom"

You don't have the freedom to kill anybody. That's why you go to jail if you do it. And who are these "certain people" who are "armed to the teeth" and "terrorizing innocent people"? I've never seen one. I'm sure if I lived in the Middle East I would, but I don't.

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[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"]I live in India.If I remember correctly,more than 85% of the population is Hindu.Christianity is like 2% or less.So you can see the difference.And you know what they are teaching kid's in school?That India is the world's largest democracy.The caste system is not illegal.Caste discrimination is illegal but it is still an everyday practice.Some politicians for gaining votes have passed laws that favour certain castes.Like there is a reservation quota for medical schools and good colleges.Riots have taken place when some castes demand to be included in these Scheduled Castes or Backward Classes.Women discrimination is a large problem also.When a bill was introduces in the parliament to reserve 33% of the seats for women the male politicians grabbed the documents and tore it on national t.v.Harshvardhan666

That's pretty darn scary. It's as if they've adopted capitalism but decided to keep slavery just for the sake of convenience. Discrimination of women is a problem in most parts of the world, but still.Ever read The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy?

Ah that makes more sense, I was getting scared there (thought it was the other way around). The book is about an upper class christian woman having a relationship with an untouchable, among many things. Essentially it's an epic tale about India changing and the problems facing it as it grows up (globalization, discrimination of women, the caste system and the problems that arise from the fact the lower castes are starting to wake up etc). If you've read Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie a good comparison would be it's a similar book written 20 years later by a woman.

Untouchables are pretty much portrayed as slaves in the novel (most of it is set in the 60's) so I drew some quick conclusions from your post and ended up understanding you wrong. India is such a vast country with such an unimaginably rich culture and history, even if I've studied and am interested in Indian litterature and history I still don't feel like I have done anything more than touched the surface. Arundhati Roy once said you have to be born in India to truly understand India, she might very well have been correct.

Is America a real democracy?SpaceMoose

No, its a republic. There's a big difference.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Is America a real democracy?Video_Game_King

No, its a republic. There's a big difference.

Uh-huh. This has already been covered...

I don't blame anyone for being sick and tired of the over bearing weight of the christin movement. They go around the world telling people how to live. It's ridiculus.

America is not a democracy either. Because money is the only thing that really changes anything in this country.

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[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]Is America a real democracy?SpaceMoose

No, its a republic. There's a big difference.

Uh-huh. This has already been covered...

Keep in mind that I'm not the "reads all posts above own" type :P.

"I don't blame anyone for being sick and tired of the over bearing weight of the christin movement. They go around the world telling people how to live. It's ridiculus."

Yeah, Christians are horrible, especially when they go around stoning people for leaving their religion and murdering their daughters for being alone with men who aren't related to them.

Yeah, Christians are horrible, especially when they go around stoning people for leaving their religion and murdering their daughters for being alone with men who aren't related to them.

Cherokee_Jack

or protesting military funerals. wait...

"or protesting military funerals. wait..."

And that's worse than what I just said?

"but freedom can be taken to far in America you have the freedom to go up to someone and shoot them dead shore you will go to prison but it was his freedom of choice you mite have the most freedom of choice but when you have certain people armed to the teeth walking the streets terrorising innocent people that ain't freedom"

You don't have the freedom to kill anybody. That's why you go to jail if you do it. And who are these "certain people" who are "armed to the teeth" and "terrorizing innocent people"? I've never seen one. I'm sure if I lived in the Middle East I would, but I don't.

Cherokee_Jack

"Holy **** have you ever heard of Compton or South Chicago?"

I don't think it's quite as bad as all that. Anyway, it still doesn't make sense to say that killing people is legal just because it happens.

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="inoperativeRS"]

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"]I live in India.If I remember correctly,more than 85% of the population is Hindu.Christianity is like 2% or less.So you can see the difference.And you know what they are teaching kid's in school?That India is the world's largest democracy.The caste system is not illegal.Caste discrimination is illegal but it is still an everyday practice.Some politicians for gaining votes have passed laws that favour certain castes.Like there is a reservation quota for medical schools and good colleges.Riots have taken place when some castes demand to be included in these Scheduled Castes or Backward Classes.Women discrimination is a large problem also.When a bill was introduces in the parliament to reserve 33% of the seats for women the male politicians grabbed the documents and tore it on national t.v.inoperativeRS

That's pretty darn scary. It's as if they've adopted capitalism but decided to keep slavery just for the sake of convenience. Discrimination of women is a problem in most parts of the world, but still.Ever read The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy?

Ah that makes more sense, I was getting scared there (thought it was the other way around). The book is about an upper class christian woman having a relationship with an untouchable, among many things. Essentially it's an epic tale about India changing and the problems facing it as it grows up (globalization, discrimination of women, the caste system and the problems that arise from the fact the lower castes are starting to wake up etc). If you've read Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie a good comparison would be it's a similar book written 20 years later by a woman.

Untouchables are pretty much portrayed as slaves in the novel (most of it is set in the 60's) so I drew some quick conclusions from your post and ended up understanding you wrong. India is such a vast country with such an unimaginably rich culture and history, even if I've studied and am interested in Indian litterature and history I still don't feel like I have done anything more than touched the surface. Arundhati Roy once said you have to be born in India to truly understand India, she might very well have been correct.

my friend is from kerala india and he and his families are proud catholics and he even went to a catholic school in india... :|-theCHUD-

the only thing i find odd is that some people here have no idea what democracy even means.

I think we should have some people in this thread actually tell us what they think democracy is, and then make their point.