Is it just me or does everyone think rock and metal is dead?

I hate to admit this... but I think rock id dead.

Thoughts?

No it's not...we are just so dark that you think we're dead.

Its not dead, it just sucks right now. Well, maybe not metal, but rock is definitely in the toilet right now.

Disagree.

It's all alive and well if you know where to look.

Jack White says diffrently, so does Rush, oh and don't forget Metallica.

The only time I see Rock dying is when Humanity dies off...

"classic" blues influenced rock and roll, and "traditional" heavy metal is dead, get with the current times people. beatles and zeppelin back then are the same as jonas brothers and fall out boy today. the kids of this generation are going to be talking about them when they get oldlonewolf604

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

I was about to say that that only counts for our fathers who got lost sometime in the 90's :lol:

Everybody else is finding music just fine.

it's just you.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]"classic" blues influenced rock and roll, and "traditional" heavy metal is dead, get with the current times people. beatles and zeppelin back then are the same as jonas brothers and fall out boy today. the kids of this generation are going to be talking about them when they get oldchessmaster1989

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

Yeah, I hate the idea that The Beatles and Zeppelin were the boy bands of yesteryear.

They were, at the very least, all competent musicians. The same can't be said for the JoBros...

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]"classic" blues influenced rock and roll, and "traditional" heavy metal is dead, get with the current times people. beatles and zeppelin back then are the same as jonas brothers and fall out boy today. the kids of this generation are going to be talking about them when they get oldUnrighteousFury

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

Yeah, I hate the idea that The Beatles and Zeppelin were the boy bands of yesteryear.

They were, at the very least, all competent musicians. The same can't be said for the JoBros...

Exactly. Comparing The Beatles and Led Zeppelin to the Jonas Brothers is just... absurd :|

Led Zeppelin happens to be one of my favorite bands :P.

If the metal you refer to is thrash metal then it's not dead, as a matter of fact it's coming back with really great bands

warbringer

Evile

Warpath (probably the best new thrash band ever)

Bonded by Blood

Municiple Waste (leader of the thrash revival, imo)

Lich King

Gama Bomb

Well I guess mainstream metal/rock is garbage, otherwise no it's not even close to dead.

Mainstream radio rock is becoming a thing of the past as the internet takes over.

There is always new talent to appreciate, you just have to know where to look for it, and sometimes, that is the hard part.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]"classic" blues influenced rock and roll, and "traditional" heavy metal is dead, get with the current times people. beatles and zeppelin back then are the same as jonas brothers and fall out boy today. the kids of this generation are going to be talking about them when they get oldchessmaster1989

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

If the metal you refer to is thrash metal then it's not dead, as a matter of fact it's coming back with really great bands

warbringer

Evile

Warpath (probably the best new thrash band ever)

Bonded by Blood

Municiple Waste (leader of the thrash revival, imo)

Lich King

Gama Bomb

geraldwillkill

Exmortus

Hatchet

Lazarus AD

Avenger of Blood

Blood Tsunami

Fastkill

Mantic Ritual

Nocturnal Fear

Wastelander (OLD SKOOL AS HELL)

Pitiful Reign

Ritual Carnage

Rattlehead

There's some more new skool for ya dude ;)

It's definitely just you.

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]"classic" blues influenced rock and roll, and "traditional" heavy metal is dead, get with the current times people. beatles and zeppelin back then are the same as jonas brothers and fall out boy today. the kids of this generation are going to be talking about them when they get oldlonewolf604

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

Rock and roll is far from dead. I think it's still the most popular genre of music actually. It's evolved somewhat, but a lot of what I hear on the radio is rock.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

chessmaster1989

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

In terms of popularity in the U.S. metal is dead with the exception of some Nu Metal and Metalcore bands (ew I know). That's not to say there aren't plenty of genuine metalheads in the U.S., it's just much more of an underground thing now. Supposedly metal is actually pretty big in areas of Europe though.

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"] if beatles and zeppelin came out today would they be considered talented? they're great musicians but mostly because back then music was really re-inventing itself

FlyingArmbar

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

Not really. Harvey Milk released a very successful album in 2008. So did Meshuggah, Opeth, hell even the Guns N' Roses album that took 15 years to come out was pretty damn good

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Except that Led Zeppelin and The Beatles had talent. The Jonas Brothers... :lol:

chessmaster1989

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

lonewolf604

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

The fact that people still listen to them, and that many new listeners still love them, testifies to the fact that they would.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

lonewolf604

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

Yes. My point is, why do people still love these bands if their music is no longer good by todays standards? I began listening to the Beatles about 6 years ago. More than 30 years after they split, and some of their songs were (and still are) the greatest I've ever heard. At that time I had no idea how old the music was, and was stunned when I found out that the band broke up in 1970.

In terms of popularity in the U.S. metal is dead with the exception of some Nu Metal and Metalcore bands (ew I know). That's not to say there aren't plenty of genuine metalheads in the U.S., it's just much more of an underground thing now. Supposedly metal is actually pretty big in areas of Europe though.

Benevolentbob

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[QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

chessmaster1989

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

The fact that people still listen to them, and that many new listeners still love them, testifies to the fact that they would.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

lonewolf604

The fact that people still listen to them, and that many new listeners still love them, testifies to the fact that they would.

That sounds like they'd be copying Led Zeppelin/The Beatles :P.

But, yeah, I'd probably really like a band that sounded similar.

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[QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

FlyingArmbar

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

Yes. My point is, why do people still love these bands if their music is no longer good by todays standards? I began listening to the Beatles about 6 years ago. More than 30 years after they split, and some of their songs were (and still are) the greatest I've ever heard. At that time I had no idea how old the music was, and was stunned when I found out that the band broke up in 1970.

all music genres died or declined after 99kiniky

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because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

lonewolf604

Yes. My point is, why do people still love these bands if their music is no longer good by todays standards? I began listening to the Beatles about 6 years ago. More than 30 years after they split, and some of their songs were (and still are) the greatest I've ever heard. At that time I had no idea how old the music was, and was stunned when I found out that the band broke up in 1970.

Because they're still good, even by today's standards. JB is just awful, by any standards...

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

lonewolf604

The fact that people still listen to them, and that many new listeners still love them, testifies to the fact that they would.

It doesn't matter if their sound was new back then. They still have hordes of young fans NOW, when their sound is "old".

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Like I said, Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands :P. I don't know why they wouldn't still be considered talented... :|

lonewolf604

The answer is yes. If the Beatles And Zeppelin were new all of a sudden, they would still be incredible. Why do both bands still have so many fans today if their music doesn't still sound great by todays standards?

because they came out when music was re-inventing themselves, and that back then their sound was new, if they came out today its a different story....if a carbon copy of them came out today would they be considered talented?

They still sound better and fresher than most bands on radio and tv right now, they definitely had talent. And of course a carbon copy of a 40 year old band wouldn't be considered unique, or talented, duh... :P

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]

Yes. My point is, why do people still love these bands if their music is no longer good by todays standards? I began listening to the Beatles about 6 years ago. More than 30 years after they split, and some of their songs were (and still are) the greatest I've ever heard. At that time I had no idea how old the music was, and was stunned when I found out that the band broke up in 1970.

chessmaster1989

Because they're still good, even by today's standards. JB is just awful, by any standards...

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"] why do people still love these bands? because they just do, like how some people like listening to jonas brothers and fall out boy (not that i listen to tthese guys tho)lonewolf604

Because they're still good, even by today's standards. JB is just awful, by any standards...

Rock is not dead, and Metal most deffinitely is not

[QUOTE="Benevolentbob"]

In terms of popularity in the U.S. metal is dead with the exception of some Nu Metal and Metalcore bands (ew I know). That's not to say there aren't plenty of genuine metalheads in the U.S., it's just much more of an underground thing now. Supposedly metal is actually pretty big in areas of Europe though.

Juggernaut140

All you have to do is look at CD sales to see that Nu Metal is sadly not dead.

Well.. Metallica and AC/DC say otherwise. I think that metal is slowly being replaced by Heavy Metal and Screamo... but hopefull that'll never completely happen :|

Rock is alive and doing just as good as always if not better, you just have to look harder to find the best bands.