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#1  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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I hope not, it would be a complete disaster and honestly, "president donald trump" just doesn't sound right. It would ruin the image of what the president of the united states is supposed to be forever. I do like some of his ideas especially the fence that he will ask mexico to pay for, but the tax cut for the rich would be a terrible idea. Hopefully his ideas about immigration survive his run for president but he himself gets kicked off pretty soon. What do you guys think?

I find it funny how idiots like kanye west are coming out of the shed to try and run for presidency now that they see donald trump getting so much support. This trend of celebrities trying to become the commander in chief, instead of the engineers and doctors is honestly pretty disturbing.

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Could you embelish a bit on why it would be a complete disaster? Do you honestly think electing the same old poiliticians would not be a complete disaster? Bush, the republican, was a complete disaster, Obama, the democrat, is a complete disaster. Maybe Trump will be too, but it is definitely time that this country breaks away from the establishment politicians that have been bringing us down for so long and Trump is the only viable non-establishment on either side.

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You don't want Trump to be president yet you support the asinine and xenophobic idea of a separation wall and his bigoted immigration policies, smh.

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#5  Edited By Catalli  Moderator
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No, I don't think he'd be able to hold his own in a debate against Hillary or Bernie Sanders. When the time comes, call me naïve, but I believe the American people would vote for someone a little more sensible.

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#6 GazaAli
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No, I don't think he'd be able to hold his own in a debate against Hillary or Bernie Sanders. When the time comes, call me naïve, but I believe the American people would vote for someone a little more sensible.

If Hilary turns out to be the Democratic nominee, he'll get his ass handed to him. But if it turns out to be Sanders then Trump will launch the biggest smear campaign ever known to man, and he'll win.

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@GazaAli said:
@ianhh6 said:

No, I don't think he'd be able to hold his own in a debate against Hillary or Bernie Sanders. When the time comes, call me naïve, but I believe the American people would vote for someone a little more sensible.

If Hilary turns out to be the Democratic nominee, he'll get his ass handed to him. But if it turns out to be Sanders then Trump will launch the biggest smear campaign ever known to man, and he'll win.

It'll probably be Hillary... I mean I just don't think America is ready for a socialist leader. Even if his policies would make the US a way better country to live in.

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@ianhh6 said:
@GazaAli said:
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No, I don't think he'd be able to hold his own in a debate against Hillary or Bernie Sanders. When the time comes, call me naïve, but I believe the American people would vote for someone a little more sensible.

If Hilary turns out to be the Democratic nominee, he'll get his ass handed to him. But if it turns out to be Sanders then Trump will launch the biggest smear campaign ever known to man, and he'll win.

It'll probably be Hillary... I mean I just don't think America is ready for a socialist leader. Even if his policies would make the US a way better country to live in.

America at large is certainly not ready for a president subscribing to Bernie's ideology in addition to being estranged from the corporate world, but the liberal constituency which votes in the democratic primaries is. This may lead to the second scenario I described. The smear campaign against Hilary is to serve that end.

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America at large is certainly not ready for a president subscribing to Bernie's ideology in addition to being estranged from the corporate world, but the liberal constituency which votes in the democratic primaries is. This may lead to the second scenario I described. The smear campaign against Hilary is to serve that end.

Interesting. This is the problem with the primaries for both parties, actually. To win their primaries they have to steer so far to the left/right that when the presidentials roll around, they've said too many things far from center to win over the rest of the voters. I'm pretty sure this is what happened to Romney, at the very least.

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Out of those 3 Bernie looks like the most well grounded candidate. I shudder at the thought of Hillary running the country. Trump would most likely be entertaining but I can't see any of his policies actually sticking for the long term and he'd probably ruin foreign trade, not to mention get our ass in even more wars where we frankly don't belong.

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I'd say it's incredibly unlikely that he would do well in the general election, and I sorta doubt that he will even get the Republican nomination but you never know.

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#12 GazaAli
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@ianhh6 said:
@GazaAli said:

America at large is certainly not ready for a president subscribing to Bernie's ideology in addition to being estranged from the corporate world, but the liberal constituency which votes in the democratic primaries is. This may lead to the second scenario I described. The smear campaign against Hilary is to serve that end.

Interesting. This is the problem with the primaries for both parties, actually. To win their primaries they have to steer so far to the left/right that when the presidentials roll around, they've said too many things far from center to win over the rest of the voters. I'm pretty sure this is what happened to Romney, at the very least.

Keeping that in mind, for whom do you think the American electorate is willing to vote, a far left or far right candidate?

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No. There are many reasons but j don't need to go further into it.

Trump won't get the nomination nor will he become president.

If he does I'm applying for refugee status in Germany.

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@GazaAli: Between far left and far right, I think far left. Sure, there can be a bit of fear campaigning and a phobia towards socialism, but far right hardly ever goes mixes well with women, non-white ethnicities or people open-minded towards the LGBT community.

I hope, at the very least, that a far-right candidate's views and policies would seem to backwards to at least enough voters in key states that the left would win.

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It's possible. It's more possible for him to win the Republic primary's than to actually be President. The likely winner of the presidency will be Hilary.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

I hope not, it would be a complete disaster and honestly, "president donald trump" just doesn't sound right. It would ruin the image of what the president of the united states is supposed to be forever. I do like some of his ideas especially the fence that he will ask mexico to pay for, but the tax cut for the rich would be a terrible idea. Hopefully his ideas about immigration survive his run for president but he himself gets kicked off pretty soon. What do you guys think?

I find it funny how idiots like kanye west are coming out of the shed to try and run for presidency now that they see donald trump getting so much support. This trend of celebrities trying to become the commander in chief, instead of the engineers and doctors is honestly pretty disturbing.

Oh, you mean like President Ronald "cowboy actor" Reagan

But more serious , what is it that would make Trump worse than any of the other candidates?

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#18 Jacanuk
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@drunk_pi said:

No. There are many reasons but j don't need to go further into it.

Trump won't get the nomination nor will he become president.

If he does I'm applying for refugee status in Germany.

Eh? did you miss the part where it said Gamespot forum? a place you debate , so what kind of answer is that? "There are many reasons but i won't say"

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#19  Edited By bforrester420
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Without the female and minority vote, I do not believe it is possible for Trump to be elected. These are two groups with which he has certainly not endeared himself.

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#20  Edited By bforrester420
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@blaznwiipspman1:

Trump is going to close down the tax loopholes, so rich can not crawl those. It is both give and take, a much more balanced policy.

The president has no control over tax code. Tax code is drafted by the Congress and is only signed into law by the president if it passes both houses. The President can try to steer tax policy, but that's about it.

People vastly overestimate what change the office of the President is capable of unless they have the legislature on their side.

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#21 blaznwiipspman1
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You don't want Trump to be president yet you support the asinine and xenophobic idea of a separation wall and his bigoted immigration policies, smh.

im sorry if you think a wall(preferrably electrified) shouldn't be used to keep out the illegal mexicans from crossing over. Its gone on far too long without any real measures and im glad that he at least gets the ball rolling in the right direction, instead of like Obama willing to give away free citizenship to these illegals. The first step i think should be to remove citizenship based on birth and instate citizenship based on blood like the japanese. That way only babies born with at least one parent of american citizenship can claim to be citizens. Next step build the electrified fence, 3 meters high and 3000 km across. Monitor for any tunnels. That should stop the flow of illegals.

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He is going to **** everything up **** it all up don't elect this fucking clown for fucks sake

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#23  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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Could you embelish a bit on why it would be a complete disaster? Do you honestly think electing the same old poiliticians would not be a complete disaster? Bush, the republican, was a complete disaster, Obama, the democrat, is a complete disaster. Maybe Trump will be too, but it is definitely time that this country breaks away from the establishment politicians that have been bringing us down for so long and Trump is the only viable non-establishment on either side.

do I really need to explain why trump would be a complete disaster? For starters, I don't really understand why hes running for president in the first place. Honestly I think his original purpose was to bash/troll the other candidates on live TV to bring his brand more publicity. But now his trolling has actually been accepted by the americans because they are sick of the gridlock on immigration and growing inequalities between classes. I think he can actually go pretty far, because he is filthy rich and could run the campaign without any backers if he wanted to. George bush was a terrible disaster, thats true, but Obama will be remembered much more kindly by history.

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I think Trump would be good at some aspects. He's a shrewd negotiator, which would aid him in dealing with domestic politics (i.e. dealing with lawmakers), but I think he would be a disaster where foreign diplomacy is concerned.

I also find his rhetoric particularly distasteful and reflects poorly on the already poor image the U.S. projects to the rest of the globe. He comes across as antagonistic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and a bully.

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Because I said it time and again. He is a fringe candidate. Fringe candidates are usually popular in the beginning but lose their base overtime which is what's happening right now. The same can be said about Ron Paul. and the same will be true with Carly and carson.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@pook99 said:

Could you embelish a bit on why it would be a complete disaster? Do you honestly think electing the same old poiliticians would not be a complete disaster? Bush, the republican, was a complete disaster, Obama, the democrat, is a complete disaster. Maybe Trump will be too, but it is definitely time that this country breaks away from the establishment politicians that have been bringing us down for so long and Trump is the only viable non-establishment on either side.

do I really need to explain why trump would be a complete disaster? For starters, I don't really understand why hes running for president in the first place. Honestly I think his original purpose was to bash/troll the other candidates on live TV to bring his brand more publicity. But now his trolling has actually been accepted by the americans because they are sick of the gridlock on immigration and growing inequalities between classes. I think he can actually go pretty far, because he is filthy rich and could run the campaign without any backers if he wanted to. George bush was a terrible disaster, thats true, but Obama will be remembered much more kindly by history.

great last sentence, spoken like a true partisan liberal who refuses to see things how they really are.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

I hope not, it would be a complete disaster and honestly, "president donald trump" just doesn't sound right. It would ruin the image of what the president of the united states is supposed to be forever. I do like some of his ideas especially the fence that he will ask mexico to pay for, but the tax cut for the rich would be a terrible idea. Hopefully his ideas about immigration survive his run for president but he himself gets kicked off pretty soon. What do you guys think?

I find it funny how idiots like kanye west are coming out of the shed to try and run for presidency now that they see donald trump getting so much support. This trend of celebrities trying to become the commander in chief, instead of the engineers and doctors is honestly pretty disturbing.

they're too busy doing things that actually benefit society.

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@Jacanuk:

Because I said it time and again. He is a fringe candidate. Fringe candidates are usually popular in the beginning but lose their base overtime which is what's happening right now. The same can be said about Ron Paul. and the same will be true with Carly and carson.

So who is your favorite to win?

Because so far in the republican nominees i can´t see one single viable candidate. Which is probably why a new poll shows that Trump would win Texas by 21% to Texas own Cruz's 16%

But we are still a few months away from the first one and a lot can happen, but with that said Trump does seem to maintain his lead and now with his "win" in Texas people have to start to take him more serious.

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@bforrester420:

Yes, both true and irrelevant. Obama has as little control over ObamaCare and he did it. Bush can't have his war without congress, and he did it. So, it is very pointless to point out how little control Obama and Bush had.

Like I said...you have to get congress behind you.

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@pook99 said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@pook99 said:

Could you embelish a bit on why it would be a complete disaster? Do you honestly think electing the same old poiliticians would not be a complete disaster? Bush, the republican, was a complete disaster, Obama, the democrat, is a complete disaster. Maybe Trump will be too, but it is definitely time that this country breaks away from the establishment politicians that have been bringing us down for so long and Trump is the only viable non-establishment on either side.

do I really need to explain why trump would be a complete disaster? For starters, I don't really understand why hes running for president in the first place. Honestly I think his original purpose was to bash/troll the other candidates on live TV to bring his brand more publicity. But now his trolling has actually been accepted by the americans because they are sick of the gridlock on immigration and growing inequalities between classes. I think he can actually go pretty far, because he is filthy rich and could run the campaign without any backers if he wanted to. George bush was a terrible disaster, thats true, but Obama will be remembered much more kindly by history.

great last sentence, spoken like a true partisan liberal who refuses to see things how they really are.

how they really are?? The only ones who think obama failed are old white geezers and their racist children, the rest of the population are pretty happy that the economy is chugging along again. Not to mention, he did something about rising health care costs, scaled down military operations overseas, brought unemployment below 6% again, set standards for pollution and funded alternative energies, increased taxes on higher income brackets not to mention he reduced the deficit when when bush left from more than $1 trillion to less than 400 billion this year. Even though I didn't like his plan on immigration, he even took a crack at that. Everything that bush failed at, Obama succeeded in, and the nation is much stronger for it today. If bush even did 1/4th of what obama did then I could actually be happy with it. The biggest issue with me over republican presidents over the years is that the FIRST thing they do in office is lower taxes on the rich. This does not help anybody, and definitely not the majority of Americans. I would vote for a republican that didn't side with the rich all the time, but that is a rare if not extinct animal. Obama is an excellent president. Maybe not the best, but he really did amazing during his 8 years in office.

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No, we won't win the nomination, let alone the general election.

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@sonic_spark said:

It's possible. It's more possible for him to win the Republic primary's than to actually be President. The likely winner of the presidency will be Hilary.

I agree with this as well.I also think Hilary Clinton will become the next U.S. President.

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@Jacanuk:

I don't support any of the candidates. They're all equally bad. As for who will win the nomination, I would say either Bush or Rubio, but mostly Bush.

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@ianhh6 said:
@GazaAli said:
@ianhh6 said:

No, I don't think he'd be able to hold his own in a debate against Hillary or Bernie Sanders. When the time comes, call me naïve, but I believe the American people would vote for someone a little more sensible.

If Hilary turns out to be the Democratic nominee, he'll get his ass handed to him. But if it turns out to be Sanders then Trump will launch the biggest smear campaign ever known to man, and he'll win.

It'll probably be Hillary... I mean I just don't think America is ready for a socialist leader. Even if his policies would make the US a way better country to live in.

we already have one according to many

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No. He's polling at 30% of support but mostly because there are so many establishment candidates. More people have stated they wont vote for him then his current support numbers.

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@bforrester420 said:

I think Trump would be good at some aspects. He's a shrewd negotiator, which would aid him in dealing with domestic politics (i.e. dealing with lawmakers), but I think he would be a disaster where foreign diplomacy is concerned.

I also find his rhetoric particularly distasteful and reflects poorly on the already poor image the U.S. projects to the rest of the globe. He comes across as antagonistic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and a bully.


and he has absolutely zero ability to ignore criticism. none. are we going to have a president personally going after every dope on twitter that calls him a buffoon?

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http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-comparing-donald-trump-to-hitler-makes-perfect-sense/

Hitler gained power....

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@ianhh6 said:
@GazaAli said:

America at large is certainly not ready for a president subscribing to Bernie's ideology in addition to being estranged from the corporate world, but the liberal constituency which votes in the democratic primaries is. This may lead to the second scenario I described. The smear campaign against Hilary is to serve that end.

Interesting. This is the problem with the primaries for both parties, actually. To win their primaries they have to steer so far to the left/right that when the presidentials roll around, they've said too many things far from center to win over the rest of the voters. I'm pretty sure this is what happened to Romney, at the very least.

He also got caught on tape calling poor people lazy bums, that didn't help.

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@magicalclick said:

@blaznwiipspman1:

Trump is going to close down the tax loopholes, so rich can not crawl those. It is both give and take, a much more balanced policy.

Have you actually looked at the details and analysis of his plan?

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@blaznwiipspman1: You are one of those disgusting people who would rather call those who disagree with you names than engage in a serious conversation. The fact that you think only rascists dislike Obama says a lot about you, it shows you to be both a simpleton and a bigot and you are clearly not worth engaging in any kind of serious conversation with.

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@pook99 said:

@blaznwiipspman1: You are one of those disgusting people who would rather call those who disagree with you names than engage in a serious conversation. The fact that you think only rascists dislike Obama says a lot about you, it shows you to be both a simpleton and a bigot and you are clearly not worth engaging in any kind of serious conversation with.

He's right though.

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let's not forget we put this village idiot in office, TWICE!!

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If by some rare chance he does get elected, he'll fall to some huge scandal and be ousted out of office. This always seems to happen when you have an elected official that tries to go against the grain. The same thing happened to Eliot Spitzer in New York - he ran on the governor ticket and won by a landslide, only to resign due to a big scandal involving escorts.

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@lamprey263 said:

let's not forget we put this village idiot in office, TWICE!!

Wasn't there that scandal in Florida at the beginning of his first term that essentially, had it not happened, he wouldn't have made it into office?

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@foxhound_fox: You mean the hanging chad controversy over misreading ballots? That was such silliness, but look what it got us into.

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@pook99 said:

@blaznwiipspman1: You are one of those disgusting people who would rather call those who disagree with you names than engage in a serious conversation. The fact that you think only rascists dislike Obama says a lot about you, it shows you to be both a simpleton and a bigot and you are clearly not worth engaging in any kind of serious conversation with.

He's right though.

Even though different people have different opinions and that is something I can accept, to say that Obama is a disaster as a president is a complete falsehood without any basis. He isn't the greatest president of all time, but id say he did and is doing an excellent job and far superior to Bush. IMO he is the best president in the last 2 centuries ie 1900 till now, only behind kennedy. Kennedy was able to take us to the moon and his policies led to the collapse of the soviet union, something almost impossible to beat. Only people with an agenda say that Obama is a bad president, and those people will never change their minds because of their bigotted background.