Is it possible to play the Under A Glass Moon solo without sweep picking?

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#1 DragonRebel0908
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I think it's a really cool solo and I'm trying to learn it but I cannot sweep pick so can I improvise my own thing on those parts?

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#2 DragonRebel0908
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Well? I can't do all that extremely fast picking and I don't want to be seen as a crappy metal guitarist.

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#3 angry-hornets
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I would say just practice the sweep picking, and you will eventually get there. If it was easy, then everyone would be doing it!
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#4 DragonRebel0908
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I would say just practice the sweep picking, and you will eventually get there. If it was easy, then everyone would be doing it!angry-hornets

It's too hard for me to do. Too many notes to the measure and my hands can't match up in the sweep.

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[QUOTE="angry-hornets"]I would say just practice the sweep picking, and you will eventually get there. If it was easy, then everyone would be doing it!DragonRebel0908

It's too hard for me to do. Too many notes to the measure and my hands can't match up in the sweep.

Maybe not right now, but you have to practice it slowly and build your speed. None of those fast guitarists were super fast when they first picked up the guitar. It's a technique that you have to build.
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#6 Saturos3091
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Easy, non-sweeping solution: Learn this instead.

:P Too many sweeps.

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#7 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"]I would say just practice the sweep picking, and you will eventually get there. If it was easy, then everyone would be doing it!angry-hornets

It's too hard for me to do. Too many notes to the measure and my hands can't match up in the sweep.

Maybe not right now, but you have to practice it slowly and build your speed. None of those fast guitarists were super fast when they first picked up the guitar. It's a technique that you have to build.

What I'm asking is that if I don't care about sweep picking, can I play that solo in a different way?

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#8 cyberdarkkid
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Just practice sweep picking it's a very useful technique nobody said it has to be easy. It took me months to learn it myself and I still have to work on it.

BTW here's a small tut for the solo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9vwtrJoCJU&feature=related

I got the whole song down solo included and it's really fun to play.

And yes you can play the solo without sweep picking but it's not going to sound like the real thing.

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#9 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="angry-hornets"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

It's too hard for me to do. Too many notes to the measure and my hands can't match up in the sweep.

DragonRebel0908

Maybe not right now, but you have to practice it slowly and build your speed. None of those fast guitarists were super fast when they first picked up the guitar. It's a technique that you have to build.

What I'm asking is that if I don't care about sweep picking, can I play that solo in a different way?

Yes a different way would be alternate pick the notes at the same speed, which is harder. Don't cut corners and just try to learn the technique.
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#10 Oblivionfan10
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Doesn't Petrucci use some other kind of finger picking method?
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#11 DragonRebel0908
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I can play something different with different techniques on certain parts if I don't care for sweep picking. Guitarists don't always cover a song the exact same as the original guitarist. They can implement their own style in some cases.

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#12 Parandrus
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I can play something different with different techniques on certain parts if I don't care for sweep picking. Guitarists don't always cover a song the exact same as the original guitarist. They can implement their own style in some cases.

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Why do you bother asking questions here if you answer them yourself every single time?
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#13 cyberdarkkid
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Doesn't Petrucci use some other kind of finger picking method?Oblivionfan10
Well he sweeps about 3 times in the solo, the rest is alternate picking. I think the other method you're talking about is his hybrid of legato and alternate picking but that is to play faster, not related to sweep picking and is not finger picking :P. Paul Gilbert uses string skipping for arpeggios so that's one way to avoid sweep picking but takes just as much effort.
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I can play something different with different techniques on certain parts if I don't care for sweep picking. Guitarists don't always cover a song the exact same as the original guitarist. They can implement their own style in some cases.

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Seriously dude...why do you keep making these threads, and then just ignoring what everyone says, repeating the same thing over and over and over....?
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I can play something different with different techniques on certain parts if I don't care for sweep picking. Guitarists don't always cover a song the exact same as the original guitarist. They can implement their own style in some cases.

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Yes, I know. I am just trying to remember how Petrucci played it after watching Score
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[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Doesn't Petrucci use some other kind of finger picking method?cyberdarkkid
Well he sweeps about 3 times in the solo, the rest is alternate picking. I think the other method you're talking about is his hybrid of legato and alternate picking but that is to play faster, not related to sweep picking and is not finger picking :P. Paul Gilbert uses string skipping for arpeggios so that's one way to avoid sweep picking but takes just as much effort.

Because we all know that when Petrucci plays fast he goes into "God Mode" where everyone in the vicinity dies. :P
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#17 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I can play something different with different techniques on certain parts if I don't care for sweep picking. Guitarists don't always cover a song the exact same as the original guitarist. They can implement their own style in some cases.

Parandrus
Why do you bother asking questions here if you answer them yourself every single time?

I don't know why I bothered *sigh*
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#18 Oblivionfan10
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I don't even know why I came into this thread. I can't even play one chord on guitar. I just consider myself a DT expert
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#19 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Doesn't Petrucci use some other kind of finger picking method?Oblivionfan10
Well he sweeps about 3 times in the solo, the rest is alternate picking. I think the other method you're talking about is his hybrid of legato and alternate picking but that is to play faster, not related to sweep picking and is not finger picking :P. Paul Gilbert uses string skipping for arpeggios so that's one way to avoid sweep picking but takes just as much effort.

Because we all know that when Petrucci plays fast he goes into "God Mode" where everyone in the vicinity dies. :P

Yea here's him teaching this technique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Mr9ZQdGAM

And he does use it for this solo maybe that's why you were a bit confused:P

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#20 Oblivionfan10
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[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Well he sweeps about 3 times in the solo, the rest is alternate picking. I think the other method you're talking about is his hybrid of legato and alternate picking but that is to play faster, not related to sweep picking and is not finger picking :P. Paul Gilbert uses string skipping for arpeggios so that's one way to avoid sweep picking but takes just as much effort.cyberdarkkid

Because we all know that when Petrucci plays fast he goes into "God Mode" where everyone in the vicinity dies. :P

Yea here's him teaching this technique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Mr9ZQdGAM

And he does use it for this solo maybe that's why you were a bit confused:P

Now it's coming back to me. What makes me mad is how he makes it look easy. I felt the same way after watching him play The Glass Prison with ease. Side Note: Two weeks ago, I remembered how much I love Under A Glass Moon. If Images and Words wasn't such a tough album to choose your favorite song :(
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Doesn't Petrucci use some other kind of finger picking method?Oblivionfan10
Well he sweeps about 3 times in the solo, the rest is alternate picking. I think the other method you're talking about is his hybrid of legato and alternate picking but that is to play faster, not related to sweep picking and is not finger picking :P. Paul Gilbert uses string skipping for arpeggios so that's one way to avoid sweep picking but takes just as much effort.

Because we all know that when Petrucci plays fast he goes into "God Mode" where everyone in the vicinity dies. :P

He can actually play fast enough to alter the vibrations of dimensional strings, thus destroying the uinverse. The only reason he doesn't is because that would be bad for album sales.

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#22 DragonRebel0908
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So am I screwed or what? Can I do something different on those parts I can't play?

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#23 Oblivionfan10
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[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Well he sweeps about 3 times in the solo, the rest is alternate picking. I think the other method you're talking about is his hybrid of legato and alternate picking but that is to play faster, not related to sweep picking and is not finger picking :P. Paul Gilbert uses string skipping for arpeggios so that's one way to avoid sweep picking but takes just as much effort.gameguy6700

Because we all know that when Petrucci plays fast he goes into "God Mode" where everyone in the vicinity dies. :P

He can actually play fast enough to alter the vibrations of dimensional strings, thus destroying the uinverse. The only reason he doesn't is because that would be bad for album sales.

Yet Portnoy can still afford a $32,000 drum kit. :P Anyways, good luck Dragon with the song.
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So am I screwed or what? Can I do something different on those parts I can't play?

DragonRebel0908
You can do whatever you want...can you stop with these threads now? plx?
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#25 DragonRebel0908
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I don't even care about the song. I may get into listening to Dream Theater; I may not. I just like that solo.

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I don't even care about the song. I may get into listening to Dream Theater; I may not. I just like that solo.

DragonRebel0908
Ok...annnnnd....?
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#27 Oblivionfan10
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't even care about the song. I may get into listening to Dream Theater; I may not. I just like that solo.

Darth-Caedus

Ok...annnnnd....?

And he will be listening to great progressive music and his days of bad music will be ;) Nevermore ;) And no that was not a shot at Nevermore because Mr. Caedus has influenced me to start listening

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#28 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't even care about the song. I may get into listening to Dream Theater; I may not. I just like that solo.

Oblivionfan10

Ok...annnnnd....?

And he will be listening to great progressive music and his days of bad music will be ;) Nevermore ;) And no that was not a shot at Nevermore because Mr. Caedus has influenced me to start listening

See I'm not a big fan of progressive music. When it comes to metal, I like power metal, speed metal, thrash, and "regular" metal. I do like some "epic" songs if you will.

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#29 DragonRebel0908
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I don't have to do everything John Petrucci does. I don't even listen to Dream Theater.

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I don't have to do everything John Petrucci does. I don't even listen to Dream Theater.

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Seriously, did you have to bump this thread just to post that? :| We already gave you suggestions but you ignore them and you end up answering your own questions.
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't have to do everything John Petrucci does. I don't even listen to Dream Theater.

cyberdarkkid

Seriously, did you have to bump this thread just to post that? :| We already gave you suggestions but you ignore them and you end up answering your own questions.

I told you I don't care about sweep picking.

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#32 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't have to do everything John Petrucci does. I don't even listen to Dream Theater.

DragonRebel0908

Seriously, did you have to bump this thread just to post that? :| We already gave you suggestions but you ignore them and you end up answering your own questions.

I told you I don't care about sweep picking.

I gave you other alternatives but you din't bother reading them. Just stop making these topics please.
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

I don't have to do everything John Petrucci does. I don't even listen to Dream Theater.

Seriously, did you have to bump this thread just to post that? :| We already gave you suggestions but you ignore them and you end up answering your own questions.

I told you I don't care about sweep picking.

You know, I don't wanna sound mean, or come off as the bad guy here, but by judging from some of the responses in this thread, I think it's for the best that I put a stop to it before things get bad. It seems that most people have moved on from this thread TC, and it might a good idea for you to do the same.