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#1 TheGrayEye
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I'm not much a man of faith, and I am aware of the cruel world we live in, but I still ask the question. Is it right to hurt people that you deem worthy of the infliction? I think most of us will quickly say yeah, but wait a minute, and actually imagine yourself smashing the daylights out of some bully. Then think for a moment, does this make me a bad person too? Does this make me no better than this bully? I don't like the idea of someone doing something bad, and not being punished for it, but (and I don't really believe in things after-life related) what if we get judged or something of the sort in the after-life. Like what if when we die- hypothetically, we are somehow judged morally overall as a person in a second, and it turns out that physically brutalizing or even killing a "bad" person was a bad thing to do...? What gives us the right to believe that "we" are right, in making that choice?

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#2 Gaming-Planet
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That's like 100% of the world :P We're all bad people
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#3 GabuEx
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Nothing beyond self-defense or defense of others. Retribution purely for the sake of revenge, when the person is no longer in any position to hurt someone, helps nothing, and only serves to make you into what you hate. "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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#4 pygmahia5
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most people might say no but i think it all depends on how bad the person is. i think beating a bully would be okay only if hes been bullying you or one of your friends. standing up for what you believe in is always good.
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#5 tzar3
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Of course! Who cares if it makes you look bad simply because society looks at it that way, you are serving natural justice in a cruel, painful way! The same way Batman beats the crap out of bank robbers, or having a bullet put to the back of your skull by the Punisher.
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#6 kulmiye
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I think the saying goes "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" or something like. Basically in the end you'll end up blind and withouth teeth.
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#7 pygmahia5
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Of course! Who cares if it makes you look bad simply because society looks at it that way, you are serving natural justice in a cruel, painful way! The same way Batman beats the crap out of bank robbers, or having a bullet put to the back of your skull by the Punisher.tzar3
haha im inclined to agree with you now. who cares if people look down on it :)
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#8 TheGrayEye
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That's like 100% of the world :P We're all bad peopleGaming-Planet

That's why I said someone you deem bad. With my question, we have to assume that you assume, you are a good person- atleast to some degree.

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#9 jesseandnikki
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Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man. - Genesis 9:6
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#10 FragStains
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I would shoot those pirates over in Somalia, just as I'd shoot looters coming in my house when I have no power. Bad people don't deserve my self-restraint.
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#11 horgen  Moderator
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In selfdefence I don't think so. But randomly attacking bullies isn't good in my opinion.
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#12 Thessassin
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yes, you are human, therefore you may be judged by humans, if i see fit to punish a genuinely bad person i will within my power.
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#13 NullCelot
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the question is really, "Is it right to hurt people i don't like?"
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#14 kittykatz5k
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Brutality is a silly response to things. I prefer other methods of getting back.
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#15 reawakened
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my girlfriend says im a bad boy (im a 19 year old teen).lol

and yes it is right overwise mgss raiden wouldnt av killed vamp

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#16 legend26
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people who do evil such as rape, mass murder/genocide, child abuse/rape, dont deserve pitty imo

imhuman like that

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#17 Clinton015
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from a legal standpoint i guess its wrong, but certain people deserve retribution...you look at the people that get away with everything in this country...its the rich, the powerful, the important/corrupt.
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#18 lilasianwonder
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I think it depends on what they did. The punishment should fit the crime.
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#19 musikizmagik
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it's ok to harm the pedos...nobody likes them pedos.
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#20 gamah_killah
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Uh, in this gen, I think we're all evil. No more innocence in our hearts :twisted:
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#21 lancelot200
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Socrates would say that you should not hurt bad people. You can only treat them right.
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#22 kingdre
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I've been in that situation before and the temptation to hurt them back was overwhelming. It didn't really accomplish much and I was just as bad as they were. Of course, I have to defend myself as well which I believe is ok. But to hurt them back when they don't see it coming... not my style.
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#23 rickybobby38
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Let karma take care of them and if that doesn't work you can take the place of karma.
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#24 mrbojangles25
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its right only to hurt people physicially in self defense

its right to hurt people emotionally when it will benefit them at some point or give them some sort of reality check.

thats my two cents at least.

Never, ever hurt someone unprovoked though or without cause.

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#25 mrbojangles25
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Let karma take care of them and if that doesn't work you can take the place of karma.rickybobby38

hmmm that sounds like a really good movie. Parents have a kid, name him Karma, he grows into a 6'6'' badass dude who goes around setting things right.

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#26 silentmage_245
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Nobody never lies.
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#27 TreasureNrenown
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if that person is not allowing others to do what they want to do then that person should be punished, but first he must get a chance to apologize and do the right thing...if he doesn't do such then we shall decapitate him (not just joking) but we must punish him accordingly. there are people who are proffesionals at these kind of things, leave it up to them brother
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#28 superheromonkey
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I don't think i would enjoy hurting anyone regardless of their lack of morals. However, i do think that sometimes physical punishment (including the death penalty) is just
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#29 chester706
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]Nothing beyond self-defense or defense of others. Retribution purely for the sake of revenge, when the person is no longer in any position to hurt someone, helps nothing, and only serves to make you into what you hate. "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

This guy stole my exact thought.
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#30 TheGrayEye
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the question is really, "Is it right to hurt people i don't like?"NullCelot

Exactly. Unlike movies, stories, or games, nobody has "evil" labeled above their heads. There is no red glowing aura around ones body...

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#31 Eternal_Triumph
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No, but it sure feels good!:D
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#32 cpo335
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Wha tsi the difference between Avenging someone and Revenge?
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#33 sparkypants
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I was recently in a fight with a kid and this reminded me of the moment. He wanted to start something with me(for reasons I dont know...to act tuff :? ) in front of the gas station I went to and I did everything in my power to avoid the fight until he swung and hit my friend in the face...at that moment I forgot all about morals and just floored the kid(cops said I gave him a concussion). Now I don't think this was wrong and if there is a devine being greater than the human race Im sure he would find this morally correct. Or what if hypothetically, some one comes in your school with a gun and starts shooting everyone(just cause he can, Columbine) is it morally wrong for a cop to shoot him, possibly kill him to save the greater good. I see what your saying but for some people and some situations the only way to stop them is to use brutal force otherwise they will never stop. The best we can do as humans is to use violence and our fists as a last resort and in the even this happens I dont think god(s) will be mad at you for it, as long as it was for the right reasons.
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#34 -OpaK-
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Of course! Who cares if it makes you look bad simply because society looks at it that way, you are serving natural justice in a cruel, painful way! The same way Batman beats the crap out of bank robbers, or having a bullet put to the back of your skull by the Punisher.tzar3

Or getting cut to pieces by Dexter:P

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#35 Cube_of_MooN
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Outside of self-defense, I'd say no.
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#36 XilePrincess
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karma will get people who do bad things. the more bad stuff you do, the harder karma screws you in the end. I've seen it happen and boy was it funny.
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#37 TheGrayEye
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karma will get people who do bad things. the more bad stuff you do, the harder karma screws you in the end. I've seen it happen and boy was it funny.XilePrincess

Can you always rely on karma? Sometimes, I'd like to know for sure if someone who messed with me gets punished somehow, instead of hoping and never knowing, "karma" will catch up with him. The latter is why some people use combat to ensure their wishes come true- right then and there, and not a few years down the road.

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#38 reawakened
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KILL the paedophile's and save the children
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#39 NumCha
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We all deserve to die, Even you, Mrs. Lovett, even I

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#40 vlin1108
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Nothing beyond self-defense or defense of others. Retribution purely for the sake of revenge, when the person is no longer in any position to hurt someone, helps nothing, and only serves to make you into what you hate. "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich NietzscheGabuEx

I think Yoda said something similar.

Also, in regard to this topic, I'd like to say that God gave me a fist for a reason.