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Are they a waste? wouldnt you be better of learning to box and street fight? can you picture a guy busting out karate moves at the bar? are martial arts relevent to everyday brawls other than confidence boost?kikman5I find martial arts a better fighting method overall
street fight isnt an actual way of fighting. you know that rightFUBAR24
I agree.
Street fighting is throwing your arms around with force hoping you hit something. Martial arts are how to defeat your opponents quickly and efficiently.
yes, but thats the wrong reason to learn martial arts.. its nothing to do with "fighting"
just learn Boxing, if you wana "street fight"
I think karate only works well in movies, in real life people won't even give you a chance to do your kung fu or karate combos.Laughing_Godkarate combos?....:lol:...you guys really have no idea what you're talking about....I've seen men much larger than me (and I'm not small)...easily taken down by someone weaighing in around 140 lbs....
[QUOTE="Laughing_God"]I think karate only works well in movies, in real life people won't even give you a chance to do your kung fu or karate combos.Omni-Slashkarate combos?....:lol:...you guys really have no idea what you're talking about....I've seen men much larger than me (and I'm not small)...easily taken down by someone weaighing in around 140 lbs.... Kick a dude in the groin, it usually works for everyone.
Kick a dude in the groin, it usually works for everyone.duxupthat is true...but most men will be lookintg for that...:lol:
[QUOTE="duxup"] Kick a dude in the groin, it usually works for everyone.Omni-Slashthat is true...but most men will be lookintg for that...:lol: I don't know. In my limited very experience dudes seem to think that is off limits in all but criminal acts. I don't know if it is from watching movies or they think no dude would be that silly but they don't seem to expect it and most healthy folk still have enough leg to get a foot or knee in there fast enough to make it hard to defend. That is unless the dude is wearing a cup, but if he thought that far ahead you're likely in a lot of trouble anyway.
If you expect everything to go down like it does in a kata, then you missed the point completely. If you know how to apply those moves and can read the situation to figure out how you're going to react, then you can fight even when ganged up on. It's why weapon training is important though-- if someone pulls out an equalizer, like a chair, you need to be able to deal with that or get a weapon of your own.MAILER_DAEMONYeah, but it takes SO MUCH training just to get good at all that. MMA is usually a much faster learning process and there's none of the formalities of the traditional martial arts, which appealed to me. It's just people trying to learn self-defense, no more, no less. No bowing, no board-breaking, no belts, just practical fighting skills.
most of the mods actually belive in this kung-fu stuff :o tell me kung fu can stop a 6'5'' dude built like a tank. those high kicks wont do you any goodkikman5who's to say the kungfu guy is a weakling....If I were to be into kungfu a 6'5" guy built like a tank would be a crying little baby when I was done with him...
[QUOTE="kikman5"]most of the mods actually belive in this kung-fu stuff :o tell me kung fu can stop a 6'5'' dude built like a tank. those high kicks wont do you any goodOmni-Slashwho's to say the kungfu guy is a weakling....If I were to be into kungfu a 6'5" guy built like a tank would be a crying little baby when I was done with him... unless your as good as steven seagal, i don't see that happening.
martial arts might help you in a fight but it also might hinder the otherwise sensible decision of not getting into a fight in the first place. I don't really care now whether I looked like a chicken 20 odd years ago. Unfortunately I did then, and as such spend my life now with a crooked nose and dead front teeth.
unless your as good as steven seagal, i don't see that happening.Laughing_Godyou're right...there's no way a 6'3" guy who lifts regularly and is proficient in kung-fu could ever take down a guy 6'5" guy who lifts regularly......that's just perposterous!
[QUOTE="Laughing_God"] unless your as good as steven seagal, i don't see that happening.Omni-Slashyou're right...there's no way a 6'3" guy who lifts regularly and is proficient in kung-fu could ever take down a guy 6'5" guy who lifts regularly......that's just perposterous! well i didn't know you were 6'3" i thought you were 5'3"
most of the mods actually belive in this kung-fu stuff :o tell me kung fu can stop a 6'5'' dude built like a tank. those high kicks wont do you any goodkikman5Well when those trained in "this kung-fu stuff" have been taught all about pressure points and what hitting a specific part of the anatomy will do, then those high kicks could probably snap a few bones.
Just knowing karate or martials arts won't win a fight. As Saje mentioned it's everything else about the art that prepares the person mentally. Haven't you heard people always saying that sometimes a fight is already won because one person mentally psyched out the other. Now, if someone decides to act klike he's Bruce Lee or Jet Li before the fight starts then he or she deserves to get their butt handed to them.
Most karate and martial arts schools teach traditional fighting but also teach self-defense techniques which has less of the typical moves one sees in martial arts and more of what's needed to either stop an opponent on the street or give you time to run away. I'm talking about strikes to the groin, knees, instep, shins, throat, solar plexus and best of all to the eyes.
I take Krav Maga and I can tell you that it's pretty much a martial art that teaches me how to take down any opponent using whatever moves is necessary to do so even if it means fighting dirty.
karate combos?....:lol:...you guys really have no idea what you're talking about....I've seen men much larger than me (and I'm not small)...easily taken down by someone weaighing in around 140 lbs.... Kick a dude in the groin, it usually works for everyone. Try kicking them when they are in posture. Its not that easy.[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Laughing_God"]I think karate only works well in movies, in real life people won't even give you a chance to do your kung fu or karate combos.duxup
most of the mods actually belive in this kung-fu stuff :o tell me kung fu can stop a 6'5'' dude built like a tank. those high kicks wont do you any goodkikman5Actually I just posted a video where that happened. Look in the above posts.
[QUOTE="duxup"]Kick a dude in the groin, it usually works for everyone. Try kicking them when they are in posture. Its not that easy. You're assuming they can see it coming.[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"] karate combos?....:lol:...you guys really have no idea what you're talking about....I've seen men much larger than me (and I'm not small)...easily taken down by someone weaighing in around 140 lbs....illegalimigrant
[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"][QUOTE="duxup"] Kick a dude in the groin, it usually works for everyone.Try kicking them when they are in posture. Its not that easy. You're assuming they can see it coming. Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guard.duxup
You're assuming they can see it coming. Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guard. We're talking about street fights here, not UFC You're giving punks too much credit[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] Try kicking them when they are in posture. Its not that easy.illegalimigrant
You're assuming they can see it coming. Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guard. Ppppppsssshhhh! Nobody can protect their groin at all times.[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] Try kicking them when they are in posture. Its not that easy.illegalimigrant
[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guard. We're talking about street fights here, not UFC You're giving punks too much credit Unless you walk around with your legs fully spread its hard to hit someone in the balls. Anyway martial arts are practical. I had just posted a video of it above.[QUOTE="duxup"] You're assuming they can see it coming.Infinite-Zr0
Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guardillegalimigrantA good kicker can easily break through a Karate or even Tae Kwan Do guard for that matter. I take kick boxing and spar with my friend who does Tae Kwon Do (Probably one of the better defense sports). He hates when I kick because he has no way to guard it. Heck, when I do leg blocks he limps away from the impact.
[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guardVandalvideoA good kicker can easily break through a Karate or even Tae Kwan Do guard for that matter. I take kick boxing and spar with my friend who does Tae Kwon Do (Probably one of the better defense sports). He hates when I kick because he has no way to guard it. Heck, when I do leg blocks he limps away from the impact.Watch this
Watch thisillegalimigrantI'm not impressed. My friend is great at Tae Kwon Do and I break his guard effortlessly with an extended hook kick or a good pushing kick to throw him off balance and close in with a skip kick.
[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"][QUOTE="illegalimigrant"] Unless you are totally stupid you would see it coming. You always have to be in your guard.We're talking about street fights here, not UFC You're giving punks too much credit Unless you walk around with your legs fully spread its hard to hit someone in the balls. Anyway martial arts are practical. I had just posted a video of it above. Is your feet like a foot wide? Or are your legs the size of tree trunks? Unless he's closing his legs like he's trying to hold his pee in. There is almost always more than enough room to thrust your foot into his nether regions.illegalimigrant
I believe it was Chris Rock who said: "If you own a gun, you don't need to work out."Sajo7I like that statement.
I think people misunderstand what martial arts are meant for... also the prime virtue of any art is devotion to training and improving the techniques by studying other arts, otherwise I don't see a reason for you to take any art or sport.
In Russia it doesn't matter whether you know boxing or karate, if you're weak by nature(IOWno interest in the art/or don't train at all)you'll get beaten regardless how much studied it.
PS. Karate is way too promoted, hence why it hasmany fake masters that don't teach anything.
PPS. I wouldrecommend Kyokushinkaikan Karate if you're interested in karate...
[QUOTE="illegalimigrant"]Watch thisVandalvideoI'm not impressed. My friend is great at Tae Kwon Do and I break his guard effortlessly with an extended hook kick or a good pushing kick to throw him off balance and close in with a skip kick. If you saw the video it did not enphasized the guard. It was about an old dude taking on a football player and knocking him out in one kick. Can everyone do it. Noo!
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