Is Killing Those Who Want It Right?

I've been thinking lately about if killing someone is ever right. Some people are in so much pain being alive that they wish to die but are denied the right. Do you think this is a violation of their rights?

I seem to recall the case of a french woman who asked to die because of he cancer, so rare yet so painful. She claimed to be in so much pain she could never sleep and could not function. The cancer also left her deformed so she was constantly made fun of. She was denied the right to die and died a month later after suffering another month of pain.

The story is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7301566.stm

One quote stands out to me, "One would not allow an animal to go through what I have endured"

This line really makes me wonder, it's true that many animals are put to sleep if they are suffering from mental disabilities, crippling diseases, and other things. If a human is in so much pain is it wrong to just end the pain?

Remember Nick Hogan's friend, the one who is so brain damaged he can't move, talk, or do anything on his own. The one who needs a machine to move him so he gets no bed sores? Wouldn't a quick and painless death be better in a case like this? He might as well be, no one can talk to him, he's in pain which no one will no. Just imagine not being able to move, talk, or do anything. I'd wish to die within a second of this happening.

What about the mentally disabled? People in vegetative states? There are numerous cases of people like this wishing to die but being refused the right.

What do you think, sorry for wall of text but I tried to format it for easy reading.

Links:

BBC Report on Arguments for the right to die http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/euthanasia/infavour/infavour_2.shtml

News Stories About Real People Wanting to Die (Or other similar subjects):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/6504395.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1949208.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/672675.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/22/newsid_2543000/2543739.stm

I could find more but, nah

So what are your opinions?

I believe its right if its breaking and entering, they threaten you, etc, etc. Anything that someone threatens you with a weapon or someone else.wado-karate

I think anyone that wants to die, should be able to die. There shouldn't be laws to prevent it. If people want to die, I think they should be able to walk into a hospital and be euthanized. People that want to die are going to find a way to do it anyways, this way you would get rid of a lot of heartache and pain for both the victim and his/her family who have to find that person dead. I hope that is what you were wanting to know.ElectronicMagic

i could and will get in trouble if i do them that.... if they want to kill themselves then ill tell them to do it themselves... don't be a p^ssy.North-North

If you fail then you get arrested/institutionalized etc.

You're even more screwed over if you don't manage to kill yourself.

I think it's alright, so as long as both parties agree. I wouldn't want to do it though.

I believe its right if its breaking and entering, they threaten you, etc, etc. Anything that someone threatens you with a weapon or someone else.wado-karate

I belive abortion is rightalexmurray

wat.

Read the post, guys. :?

Anyone who wants to end their life should have the right to do so.

It's wrong when it's just an angsty teenager who thinks life is mean to him, that's just suicidal and it's stupid, but in those cases the kid isn't going to ask for it anyway, he'll just do it himself.

As for euthanasia, which is what you're talking about, it should definitely be allowed, any person with a disease or disability so severe that it prevents them from having a productive, fullfilling, happy life who wants to end their life should be allowed to do so, denying them that right is just cruel and stupid, there's nothing to be gained from keeping a person with terminal cancer, or who has been in a coma for years, or has lost the ability to move and can't do anything by himself, etc., alive, it will just bring more physical and emotional pain both to the person in question and those close to him/her. If someone in this kind of situation wants to go peacefully and not suffer anymore, they should be allowed to do so.

I think it's alright, so as long as both parties agree. I wouldn't want to do it though.

[QUOTE="wado-karate"]I believe its right if its breaking and entering, they threaten you, etc, etc. Anything that someone threatens you with a weapon or someone else.The_Ish

I belive abortion is rightalexmurray

wat.

Read the post, guys. :?

:lol: People not reading the thread.

Anyway I believe it's right.

Sometimes, people don't know what's good for them.

Later, they also end up regreting it. But you can't regret anything if you die.

So with that, I don't think it's right....

Sometimes, people don't know what's good for them.

Later, they also end up regreting it. But you can't regret anything if you die.

So with that, I don't think it's right....

martialbullet

Are you referring to euthanasia? If so, if it is willed, I'm down with it for geriatrics if they are terminally ill and desire it..

If a younger healthier member of society requests it, proper authorities must first rule out insanity before proceeding.

If one who is deemed sane can be put on death row for murder, then one who is also deemed sane and wants to end their life should also be given that same right.

Glad I live in Oregon where I can get a physican assisted suicide otherwise know as dying with dignity.

This is of course assuming u have a terminal illness.

I'm not to sure on whether ppl who just want to die because should because I think it'll open up a can of worms. where joe schmo just walks in and says i want to die and then they take him away and 5 mins later hes in the morgue.

Glad I live in Oregon where I can get a physican assisted suicide otherwise know as dying with dignity.

This is of course assuming u have a terminal illness.

I'm not to sure on whether ppl who just want to die because should because I think it'll open up a can of worms. where joe schmo just walks in and says i want to die and then they take him away and 5 mins later hes in the morgue.

XturnalS

The joe Schmo scenario would only come into play if they wanted to leave behind greedy ignorant relatives who cared more about money than their will as a suicide candidate.

Yes, it's right. Forcing people who are going to die to suffer until they do is wrong and inhumane. I think there should be a legally binding document, maybe even part of a persons will, that dictates whether the plug should be pulled or not. And to combat greedy relatives, one should have to sign this paper in person. That way, if someone ends up in a vegetative state there won't be any fruitless bickering about whether or not the person wanted it.

As for people who are in enormous amounts of pain, but conscious? Yes, they should have the right to have a peaceful, pain free death as well.

No way man. This is why I do not oppose suicide. If you want to kill you yourself, fine. Go ahead, I won't think any less of you. Just don't bring ME into this.
MrGeezer

Do you think there should be medical products available to assist those who wish to? I mean, people who terminally ill and in vast amounts of pain shouldn't have to meet a sloppy end like taking pills, slitting their wrists, or jumping from a rooftop. Don't you think it's better to get a euthanizing shot? The person is suffering, no need to force them to take drastic, messy measures.

As long as you want to die and are in extreme misery, then there should be a mechanism in law where you will be able to allow a certain person to pull your plug. We cannot ask doctors to do the killing, because they never signed up for being a murderer, it isn't in the job description. Perhaps, a family member can remove your life support or something of that nature.efrucht

I don't think Doctors ever had a problem with it, they don't take the Hippocratic oath these days. It's legal in Washington to die if you have a horrible disease and I never heard of any doctors complaining.

Yes, it's right. Forcing people who are going to die to suffer until they do is wrong and inhumane. I think there should be a legally binding document, maybe even part of a persons will, that dictates whether the plug should be pulled or not. And to combat greedy relatives, one should have to sign this paper in person. That way, if someone ends up in a vegetative state there won't be any fruitless bickering about whether or not the person wanted it.

As for people who are in enormous amounts of pain, but conscious? Yes, they should have the right to have a peaceful, pain free death as well.

TreyoftheDead

no mostly because of religion and morals. Thou shall not...ff7isnumbaone

Without getting into a religious debate, that's a ridiculous standpoint to hold. It's fine if you think it's wrong for yourself to do it, but for others? We aren't all religious you know. ;)

morals too. majority thinks its wrong to kill.ff7isnumbaone

Are you reasonably thinking of the circumstances? I'd say the moral thing to do would be to allow a person who is suffering and going to die to end their suffering peacefully.

If I found out that I had a month or two to live due to a terminal illness I was diagnosed with and I was suffering horribly, so much so that I could barely function daily, I'd want to die now rather than wait for what is inevitable while in vast amounts of pain.

morals too. majority thinks its wrong to kill.ff7isnumbaone

and yet wars go on...

*in before "wars are the exception"*

morals too. majority thinks its wrong to kill.ff7isnumbaone

1. That's argumentum ad populum.

2. There are exceptions where killing someone is justified.

I think it should be allowed. To me, it is ending somebody's suffering.