Is Reincarnation the most advanced belief?

Not happy to say I have secular beliefs now, zero faith in the supernatural. All I know is there is life in organisms.

I seen the composite remains of a dog buried and a tree grow from the grave. Could that tree hold any subconcious memory of the dog? Has the dog been reborn in the tree?

What would this mean for a human in a grave? It's going to take a worm to feast on your brains. Then that worm to get eaten by bird. And that bird deficates in the ice cream supply. Someone eats the ice cream which makes protein for sperm. Finally the circle of life comes full circle. Good thing we have an eternity to have our esence return to humanity from the grave.

Reincarnation is making more sense than resurrections, reanimations, or complete silence upon death.

All matter is recycled, so I guess.

I don't think Buddhists and other "religions" that talk about Reincarnation actually believe in it the way most people do. It is the phenomena of experiencing the feeling of "I" that gets reincarnated not a unique case of "I" (meaning your memories/opinions/thoughts/etc.. Or at least that's what I learned from listening to Alan Watts.

How is what you described more sensible than nothing after death?

If I'm going to indulge in fantasy it would be the rainbow bridge one where the payoff is I get to see my dogs again or maybe I could transition between valhalla and the happy hunting grounds so I could chill all day by a stream and chat with animals until it gets boring then pick up a broadsworad and slaughter all day with the vikings then drink and wench all night until that got old.

That's why I am so board all the time. I keep coming back as my self.

I've always found the concept of reincarnation to be among the more ridiculous beliefs if you're talking about the "soul" of a person. The atoms in your body will continue to exist but that's about as far as it goes imo.

in buddhism ... our world is called Maya, an Illusion (physical world) ... it is said that Maya emerges from the truth like heat from fire ... it follows the idea that the world/universe is made up of to sperated principles in its core, wich are unseperated in reality

there is only 'one being' wich is the universe itself as well as the idea of the universe in one (unseperated) the revealed principles are spirit and matter ... a common method to picture this metaphysical thought is to think of the spirit as a sun (center of the sun.system/galaxy/universe) and to see the matter as a pure media like water ... from the 'sun' are radiating rays wich are reflected on the surface of the water (matter/media) ... like that ... every reflection of one of these rays on the watersurface is ment to be the lifetime of a human being on earth ... as you understand, the reflection itself is only sparkilng for a millisecond while the ray that created it remains and creates a new reflections as the media below it moves ... the ray stands for the immortal sould wich is also called 'monade'

the advanced view of this concept includes the understanding, that the 'rays' are not emerging from the sun twoards the water in the metaphysical reality, but in the opposite direction, they form a path that leads from the watersurface back to the center

in several cultures the number of states the 'monade' has to pass is 7 x 7. but karma will decide if you are descending or ascending ... compare to 'The Ladder of Devine Ascent'

regards

I was a star once. Then I was space dust. Then dirt. Doing a bit better these days.

You've come to the conclusion that a lot of hippies have. Really a tree growing on a dogs grave is like saying all the cows i've eaten live on through me.. I AM COW AND CHICKEN MAN.

I've heard the belief that geniuses aren't unnaturally smart, per se, they just manage to have lived so many past lives and acquired so much knowledge in the process, that they can recall a good deal of what they've learned when they are young and thus new to their present life, that people just assume that they are quick learners or gifted at certain areas.

I just wanted to go to bed, now I cant stop laughing, great ^^

but ... as well as the ray creates a reflection of the spirit in the water, the same happens in the other direction ...

practically it isnt possible to recall anything ... quick learning and 'being gifted' is simply an result of an early childhood trauma ... it hits everyone, some leads it to think they got the right to force other oeople, guide other people or teach other people ...

just think about circumcision, especially the clipping used on girls, is nothing more then applying such trauma as early as possible

there is really a reason why humans have and need to develop their minds and empathy together ... ... ...

@magicalclick: Neat, going to check out some string theory vids on YouTube. My memory is a bit hazy on the topic but it's worth investigating for sure.

Our atoms lives on.

Here's a rather old and fascinating documentary that will blow your mind away.

Good song, but did you know it's about a whore house?

and have an open mind, ideally.

yes, isnt that deep ...

the Buddhist teaching from above only deals with the reincarnation cycle of human live ... but its of course not limited to this ... in fact, every 'atom' in the universe seeks to become a human at some point ... thats why we are so incredible lucky atm ...

already some of the best scenes of this movie ...

and the rest ^^

More like the least advanced. It's not like there's a big Bible of reincarnation as there is for almost any other belief.

sorry, but I have to correct you on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_Thodol (its called ancient science in this case^^)

well ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society

the shape of reality:

this is simply based on math: This took 4 weeks to calculate the log(z) plane (or 'side scrolling' plane) and about 1 hour to assemble the video.

not practical but nice to look at and to think about ^^

and here it gets really metaphysical between 35:00 and 45:00

the next is maybe the best: its in constant movement but is anything changing at all ?

regards

@playmynutz:

all I am saying is, you havnt even reached that 'composte pile' yet ... when you have and worked ur way through, u will be reborn as a snowflake ... regards

In addition to the stated objectives, as early as 1889 Blavatsky publicly declared that the purpose of establishing the Society was to prepare humanity for the reception of a World Teacher: according to the Theosophical doctrine described above, a manifested aspect of an advanced spiritual entity that periodically appears on Earth in order to direct the evolution of humankind. The mission of these reputedly regularly appearing emissaries is to practically translate, in a way and language understood by contemporary humanity, the knowledge required to propel it to a higher evolutionary stage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Doctrine

this book for example, while ment as an gift and guide for mankind, has actually provided the nationalists and anti.zionistic movements of this time with everything they needed to evolve their twisted believes into a full fledged idiology and is thus a prime example for what is about to happen in the meaning of 'consequences' when this kind of knowledge is about to surface in the mainstream's field of view/interest

If the present attempt, in the form of our Society, succeeds better than its predecessors have done, then it will be in existence as an organized, living and healthy body when the time comes for the effort of the 20th century. The general condition of men's minds and hearts will have been improved and purified by the spread of its teachings, and, as I have said, their prejudices and dogmatic illusions will have been, to some extent at least, removed. <- this was 1890 ^^

I believe in reincarnation. Nature recycles and reuses everything, why not the spirit/soul? Of course one would have to believe in a spirit/soul.

Also, I wouldn't consider it an 'advanced' belief. Beliefs and opinions aren't 'advanced' they're just perceptions of things.

I believe that our afterlife is the legacy we leave behind.

I dont believe there is anything like a soul, and I dont see any reason to believe one exists. There is no evidence that would indicate that our consciousness is nothing more than bioelectrical signals in our brain.

just imagine someone asks you if you believe in re.incarnation, you answer 'yes, not impossible' and the next thing this guy does is to shoot you in the head saying 'very well, show me... yeah, thought so'