Is stereotyping someone really that bad?

This is a honest question for people who really get offended when someone does this sort of thing.

Stereotypes imo are there for a reason. They didnt come out of nowhere just for the heck of it. Its there because most of the time its true. Here is a perfect example I am about to use. This is a true story.

It's late at night one day and im walking home from my friends house after a house party. There is a small plaza between me and my Apt. And what do i see? A group of "gangsta's" dare i say African Americans at that. Now, what do i do? As im walking closer i start to think...hmmm If i try to walk past these guys, something might go down. And thats exactly what happened. One guy asked me for a cig and i said i didnt have one. Then BOOM. I end up waking up after being hit in the back of the head only to find out my wallet and cell phone was gone.

Now why did the thought of "if i walk past these guys, something might go down" come up? Stereotypes.......It's late at night, a group of black teens, dressed as pranksters, in front of a plaza, loitering = stay away.

Now if i was smart i would have walked around these guys. But knowing my self, i said **** that. I dont walk around nobody. I walk through clowns like that. I paid the price.

The moral of the story is not to ignore stereotypes. imbrace it. It can save your life. A group of black ppl late at night? stay away. Chiniese guy driving? jump out the car. Middle eastern flying your airplane? jump out the airplane. These little can and will save your life.

thoughts?

Chiniese guy driving? jump out the car.
thoughts?

Omega-316

I'm not familiar with this stereotype.

This is a honest question for people who really get offended when someone does this sort of thing.

Stereotypes imo are there for a reason. They didnt come out of nowhere just for the heck of it. Its there because most of the time its true. Here is a perfect example I am about to use. This is a true story.

It's late at night one day and im walking home from my friends house after a house party. There is a small plaza between me and my Apt. And what do i see? A group of "gangsta's" dare i say African Americans at that. Now, what do i do? As im walking closer i start to think...hmmm If i try to walk past these guys, something might go down. And thats exactly what happened. One guy asked me for a cig and i said i didnt have one. Then BOOM. I end up waking up after being hit in the back of the head only to find out my wallet and cell phone was gone.

Now why did the thought of "if i walk past these guys, something might go down" come up? Stereotypes.......It's late at night, a group of black teens, dressed as pranksters, in front of a plaza, loitering = stay away.

Now if i was smart i would have walked around these guys. But knowing my self, i said **** that. I dont walk around nobody. I walk through clowns like that. I paid the price.

The moral of the story is not to ignore stereotypes. imbrace it. It can save your life. A group of black ppl late at night? stay away. Chiniese guy driving? jump out the car. Middle eastern flying your airplane? jump out the airplane. These little can and will save your life.

thoughts?

Omega-316

How is jumping out of the plane gonna save your life?

Yes,stereotyping is bad.

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

Chiniese guy driving? jump out the car.
thoughts?

Baranga

I'm not familiar with this stereotype.

Stereotypes exist because people want to paint a sub group of humans in a particular way. They aren't true of the group....the stereotypes can equally apply to people in different groups....and as such are worthless. But hey....it helps racist people justify their racism and bigotry.LJS9502_basic

I wouldnt group stereotypes in the same class as racism and bigotry. Its more like innocent naivety with a tad of ignorance.

Also, i've never met an Irishman who couldnt drink like a fish.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Stereotypes exist because people want to paint a sub group of humans in a particular way. They aren't true of the group....the stereotypes can equally apply to people in different groups....and as such are worthless. But hey....it helps racist people justify their racism and bigotry.Ilovegames1992

I wouldnt group stereotypes in the same class as racism and bigotry. Its more like innocent naivety with a tad of ignorance.

Also, i've never met an Irishman who couldnt drink like a fish.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Stereotypes exist because people want to paint a sub group of humans in a particular way. They aren't true of the group....the stereotypes can equally apply to people in different groups....and as such are worthless. But hey....it helps racist people justify their racism and bigotry.LJS9502_basic

I wouldnt group stereotypes in the same class as racism and bigotry. Its more like innocent naivety with a tad of ignorance.

Also, i've never met an Irishman who couldnt drink like a fish.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Stereotypes exist because people want to paint a sub group of humans in a particular way. They aren't true of the group....the stereotypes can equally apply to people in different groups....and as such are worthless. But hey....it helps racist people justify their racism and bigotry.LJS9502_basic

I wouldnt group stereotypes in the same class as racism and bigotry. Its more like innocent naivety with a tad of ignorance.

Also, i've never met an Irishman who couldnt drink like a fish.

Yeah its negative but not in a sinister way like racism or bigotry or any -ism you know? Its like you say in a jokey way "oh yeah the Irish are drunks ha". You know its bull sh*t but its fun. And there is a hint of truth to stereotypes you cant deny that.

You are just a hatin' ass racistNengo_Flow

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I wouldnt group stereotypes in the same class as racism and bigotry. Its more like innocent naivety with a tad of ignorance.

Also, i've never met an Irishman who couldnt drink like a fish.

Omega-316

Stereotyping is bad, it's prejudice and bigoted.

No good comes from stereotyping, only harm

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]You are just a hatin' ass racistOmega-316

lol I was just joking bro.

I have no idea who you are....

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I wouldnt group stereotypes in the same class as racism and bigotry. Its more like innocent naivety with a tad of ignorance.

Also, i've never met an Irishman who couldnt drink like a fish.

Ilovegames1992

Yeah its negative but not in a sinister way like racism or bigotry or any -ism you know? Its like you say in a jokey way "oh yeah the Irish are drunks ha". You know its bull sh*t but its fun. And there is a hint of truth to stereotypes you cant deny that.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Overall stereotypes focus on negative characteristics. And there are some Irish that don't drink at all....:oLJS9502_basic

Yeah its negative but not in a sinister way like racism or bigotry or any -ism you know? Its like you say in a jokey way "oh yeah the Irish are drunks ha". You know its bull sh*t but its fun. And there is a hint of truth to stereotypes you cant deny that.

The drinking stereotype is pretty poor as its quite universal. Hm the stereotype that Jewish people are mean with money, there's a hint of truth to that. But again i dont see anything wrong with silly funny things like that as long as you are not an idiot and you can see them for what they are.

Stereotyping is bad, it's prejudice and bigoted.

No good comes from stereotyping, only harm

toast_burner

I'm never harmed when someone calls me a sheepshagger...

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

Chiniese guy driving? jump out the car.
thoughts?

Baranga

I'm not familiar with this stereotype.

Regardless of race, if you see a group of teens dressed as pranksters late at night, you should avoid them.chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Regardless of race, if you see a group of teens dressed as pranksters late at night, you should avoid them.Omega-316

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Regardless of race, if you see a group of teens dressed as pranksters late at night, you should avoid them.Ilovegames1992

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

The Israelis have been doing it for years and it's working out pretty well for them.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]But then comes the stereotype of black people being less hesitant to react on emotions. White ppl, are well, not brave enough to do something like that. As someone who worked as a bouncer. ive had more issues with black people just because someone stepped on their shoes...

Omega-316

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Regardless of race, if you see a group of teens dressed as pranksters late at night, you should avoid them.Ilovegames1992

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]But then comes the stereotype of black people being less hesitant to react on emotions. White ppl, are well, not brave enough to do something like that. As someone who worked as a bouncer. ive had more issues with black people just because someone stepped on their shoes...

chessmaster1989

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]But then comes the stereotype of black people being less hesitant to react on emotions. White ppl, are well, not brave enough to do something like that. As someone who worked as a bouncer. ive had more issues with black people just because someone stepped on their shoes...

Omega-316

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

I hope you arent using this issue to subtly promote racism mi amigo..

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

Omega-316

That makes it a stereotype how?

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I've never, ever, heard that stereotype.

Omega-316

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipv9tAkUek

what do you have say about this, heck in London there was this big thing because london teens "who were white" would go around with a bat and attack homeless people, i don't understand what your trying to prove here? Stupidity comes in all races

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Nor have I.Ilovegames1992

That makes it a stereotype how?

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]Point him out, Knock him out

Like i said. Less hesitant to do dumb *hit.

Omega-316

That makes it a stereotype how?

your speaking like we're another species or something, what does less hesitant to react on emotion means? Basically i'm still confused about your saying, i'm trying to figure out if your just really dumb and ignorant or being dumb and racist, clarify it for me

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Nor have I.Chris_Williams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipv9tAkUek

what do you have say about this, heck in London there was this big thing because london teens "who were white" would go around with a bat and attack homeless people, i don't understand what your trying to prove here? Stupidity comes in all races

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]Point him out, Knock him out

Like i said. Less hesitant to do dumb *hit.

Omega-316

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipv9tAkUek

what do you have say about this, heck in London there was this big thing because london teens "who were white" would go around with a bat and attack homeless people, i don't understand what your trying to prove here? Stupidity comes in all races

your going to have to provide me a link or something instead of talking out of your a**

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

That makes it a stereotype how?

Chris_Williams

your speaking like we're another species or something, what does less hesitant to react on emotion means? Basically i'm still confused about your saying, i'm trying to figure out if your just really dumb and ignorant or being racist, clarify it for me

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]Point him out, Knock him out

Like i said. Less hesitant to do dumb *hit.

Omega-316

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipv9tAkUek

what do you have say about this, heck in London there was this big thing because london teens "who were white" would go around with a bat and attack homeless people, i don't understand what your trying to prove here? Stupidity comes in all races

Give me some stats brother.

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipv9tAkUek

what do you have say about this, heck in London there was this big thing because london teens "who were white" would go around with a bat and attack homeless people, i don't understand what your trying to prove here? Stupidity comes in all races

Chris_Williams

your going to have to provide me a link or something instead of talking out of your a**

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]Lets make this clear. Im not saying ONLY black people do this. Or that ALL black people do this. Im saying the numbers are greater in the african race compared to others.

Omega-316

your going to have to provide me a link or something instead of talking out of your a**

You've seen very little if you are using steretypes and prejudices to form opinions on people.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]Like i said. I worked as a bouncer. And i and many other bouncers have noticed this issue with them. Less hesitant to react on emotions. thats all im saying. stereotype or not. I dont put labels on stuff. It just is what it is.

Omega-316

your speaking like we're another species or something, what does less hesitant to react on emotion means? Basically i'm still confused about your saying, i'm trying to figure out if your just really dumb and ignorant or being racist, clarify it for me

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

your speaking like we're another species or something, what does less hesitant to react on emotion means? Basically i'm still confused about your saying, i'm trying to figure out if your just really dumb and ignorant or being racist, clarify it for me

Chris_Williams

Hm you dont seem to be holding back your anger here.

Maybe he's onto something :o

I think it depends on whether said stereotype is negative or how your preconceptions affect your treatment of people.

If you, for example, deny someone a job because you hold the sterotype that everyone from that ethnicity is lazy or stupid, then yes, it is a "bad" stereotype. If you give someone a job because of a stereotype that everyone from that ethnicity is good at smart or hardworking, then no, it's probably not "bad".

Like Carlin said, words are not bad, it's the context in which they're used.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]less hesitant to react to emotions means exactly how it sounds :?. It means if you saying something bad to me, instead of letting it go. im going to fight you. it means if you step on my shoes, im going to call you out on it.

Ilovegames1992

Hm you dont seem to be holding back your anger here.

Maybe he's onto something :o

I think it depends on whether said stereotype is negative or how your preconceptions affect your treatment of people.

If you, for example, deny someone a job because you hold the sterotype that everyone from that ethnicity is lazy or stupid, then yes, it is a "bad" stereotype. If you give someone a job because of a stereotype that everyone from that ethnicity is good at smart or hardworking, then no, it's probably not "bad".

Like Carlin said, words are not bad, it's the context in which they're used.

Wanderlei_Rua

No, positive stereotypes are just as bad as bad steretypes. If someone gave someone a job based on that i hope to god i'd never work for that guy.

if stereotypes aren't true to some degree then why do they exist?

You'll say racism and ignorance and fine, that accounts for the demographic of people that actually think all people of a certain race behave in a certain manner. But what about the people that see the stereotypes in some and not in others and realize that they don't indeed exist in every individual?

if stereotypes aren't true to some degree then why do they exist?

You'll say racism and ignorance and fine, that accounts for the demographic of people that actually think all people of a certain race behave in a certain manner. But what about the people that see the stereotypes in some and not in others and realize that they don't indeed exist in every individual?

z4twenny

Whilst i agree with you, to say they must be true because they exist is like saying Unicorns were real. Although thats a poor metaphor on my part because i would think there were actual horselike animals with horns that were made into unicorns, but you get my meaning.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]Lets make this clear. Im not saying ONLY black people do this. Or that ALL black people do this. Im saying the numbers are greater in the african race compared to others.

Omega-316

your going to have to provide me a link or something instead of talking out of your a**

It is actually really helpful in some instances. Stereotyping doesn't apply to just race. If some guy walks into the same store as me wearing a ski mask, I'm definitely going to be cautious of a robbery, and that's a good thing. is everyone wearing a ski mask a robber? Of course not, but robbers are known to wear ski masks to hide their face.

It is actually really helpful in some instances. Stereotyping doesn't apply to just race. If some guy walks into the same store as me wearing a ski mask, I'm definitely going to be cautious of a robbery, and that's a good thing. is everyone wearing a ski mask a robber? Of course not, but robbers are known to wear ski masks to hide their face.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Thats more like common sense and logic than stereotyping. Who the **** walks into a shop wearing a ski mask? :lol:

The trouble with stereotypes is they are based on perceptions rather than actual concrete data. The more you believe in a stereotype the more people will seem to act accordingly. The problem is the biased observer. Some stereotypes may seem innocent, but when you stereotype someone you are prejudging them. You dont know that person at all, yet you have already made assumptions about their beliefs and behaviors.