Is the Alternative rock genre REALLY dead? If so, can it be brought back?

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#1 Kevlar101
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I ask, because my Brother-In-Law is the drummer in an Alternative Rock band that is currently based in Santa Barbara, California. Here. Now, I sometimes question whether or not they can come popular, given that the Alternative Rock genre died in the late 90s. But, I wonder: is it TRULY dead? Can it become popular again?
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#2 rocinante_
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how do you figure that it's dead?

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#3 Kevlar101
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how do you figure that it's dead?

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How many Alternative rock bands have come up and been popular since the 90s? Not very many.
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#4 rocinante_
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[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

how do you figure that it's dead?

Kevlar101

How many Alternative rock bands have come up and been popular since the 90s? Not very many.

by popular do you mean mainstream popular? because if so, you could say many genres are dead. but that's just not true; you just gotta dig deeper to find em

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#5 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"][QUOTE="rocinante_"]

how do you figure that it's dead?

rocinante_

How many Alternative rock bands have come up and been popular since the 90s? Not very many.

by popular do you mean mainstream popular? because if so, you could say many genres are dead. but that's just not true; you just gotta dig deeper to find em

Ya ya. But what do you think of 'Naked Walrus'?
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#6 rocinante_
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[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="Kevlar101"] How many Alternative rock bands have come up and been popular since the 90s? Not very many.Kevlar101

by popular do you mean mainstream popular? because if so, you could say many genres are dead. but that's just not true; you just gotta dig deeper to find em

Ya ya. But what do you think of 'Naked Walrus'?

so you just made this thread to promote your brother-in-law's unknown band? lol

anyway, not my taste, but i'm sure some people like em :P

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#7 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"][QUOTE="rocinante_"]

by popular do you mean mainstream popular? because if so, you could say many genres are dead. but that's just not true; you just gotta dig deeper to find em

rocinante_

Ya ya. But what do you think of 'Naked Walrus'?

so you just made this thread to promote your brother-in-law's unknown band? lol

anyway, not my taste, but i'm sure some people like em :P

They are actually quite popular in Santa Barbara, they are very well known there.
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#8 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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Reminds me of Nickleback.
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#9 Kevlar101
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Reminds me of Nickleback.FrostyPhantasm
How? The genres are not even the same. Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?
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#10 rocinante_
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[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="Kevlar101"] Ya ya. But what do you think of 'Naked Walrus'?Kevlar101

so you just made this thread to promote your brother-in-law's unknown band? lol

anyway, not my taste, but i'm sure some people like em :P

They are actually quite popular in Santa Barbara, they are very well known there.

good for them, but you still haven't given any reasons as to why you think the alt rock genre is dead. i mean, you're brother-in-law's band's popularity in santa barbara counters that claim, no? and i can think of several alt rock bands still popular on a large scale today, like muse and radiohead

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#11 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"][QUOTE="rocinante_"]

so you just made this thread to promote your brother-in-law's unknown band? lol

anyway, not my taste, but i'm sure some people like em :P

rocinante_

They are actually quite popular in Santa Barbara, they are very well known there.

good for them, but you still haven't given any reasons as to why you think the alt rock genre is dead. i mean, you're brother-in-law's band's popularity in santa barbara counters that claim, no? and i can think of several alt rock bands still popular on a large scale today, like muse and radiohead

Don't forget Tool.
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#12 rocinante_
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[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="Kevlar101"] They are actually quite popular in Santa Barbara, they are very well known there. Kevlar101

good for them, but you still haven't given any reasons as to why you think the alt rock genre is dead. i mean, you're brother-in-law's band's popularity in santa barbara counters that claim, no? and i can think of several alt rock bands still popular on a large scale today, like muse and radiohead

Don't forget Tool.

ok...so what is the point of this thread if you know there are big and popular alt rock bands out there?

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When what was once considered "alternative rock" becomes popular, does it remain "alternative?"
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#14 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"][QUOTE="rocinante_"]

good for them, but you still haven't given any reasons as to why you think the alt rock genre is dead. i mean, you're brother-in-law's band's popularity in santa barbara counters that claim, no? and i can think of several alt rock bands still popular on a large scale today, like muse and radiohead

rocinante_

Don't forget Tool.

ok...so what is the point of this thread if you know there are big and popular alt rock bands out there?

I don't know.
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When what was once considered "alternative rock" becomes popular, does it remain "alternative?"krazykillaz
That could be a Meme,
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#16 Saturos3091
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Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
No. They're post-grunge. Alternative rock isn't dead. Have you ever listened to The Flaming Lips? They're extremely popular and are still going strong. There's quite a few other alternative rock acts out there too that are either still around or were formed relatively recently. The genre is anything but dead.
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#17 LZ71
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I'd say give Queens of the Stone Age a listen, but then again I'm not even sure what counts as alternative rock.

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#18 rocinante_
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[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="Kevlar101"] Don't forget Tool.Kevlar101

ok...so what is the point of this thread if you know there are big and popular alt rock bands out there?

I don't know.

don't be coy; it was to promote that sh!tty band, wasn't it?

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#19 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"]Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Saturos3091
No. They're post-grunge. Alternative rock isn't dead. Have you ever listened to The Flaming Lips? They're extremely popular and are still going strong. There's quite a few other alternative rock acts out there too that are either still around or were formed relatively recently. The genre is anything but dead.

Clearly states that Nickelback are Alternative Metal AND post-grunge .
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#20 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"][QUOTE="rocinante_"]

ok...so what is the point of this thread if you know there are big and popular alt rock bands out there?

rocinante_

I don't know.

don't be coy; it was to promote that sh!tty band, wasn't it?

:evil: Don't start with me
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Hope it is
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#22 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"] Clearly states that Nickelback are Alternative Metal AND post-grunge .

:lol: You do know Wikipedia often cites sources that are musically clueless, right? They cited Allmusic as their source and they're notorious for classifying music incorrectly.
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#23 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="Kevlar101"] Clearly states that Nickelback are Alternative Metal AND post-grunge .

:lol: You do know Wikipedia often cites sources that are musically clueless, right? They cited Allmusic as their source and they're notorious for classifying music incorrectly.

Whatevs.
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#24 Kevlar101
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When what was once considered "alternative rock" becomes popular, does it remain "alternative?"krazykillaz
If Alternative Rock band becomes popular...... is it still Alternative? Made this just for you Krazykillaz :)
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#25 Mario_Eater
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It's not dead, you just need to know where to look as many Alt rock bands aren't mainstream. Here in Australia for instance, some local bands like The Butterfly Effect, Dead Letter Circus, Shihad (originally from NZ), Birds of Tokyo, Thousand Needles in Red etc aren't mainstream popular (except for maybe BoT and Shihad) but they have gained quite a large following nationally, and have subsequently gone to tour internationally.
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]Reminds me of Nickleback.Kevlar101
How? The genres are not even the same. Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?

Wat.
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#27 Iceozo
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="Kevlar101"]Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
No. They're post-grunge. Alternative rock isn't dead. Have you ever listened to The Flaming Lips? They're extremely popular and are still going strong. There's quite a few other alternative rock acts out there too that are either still around or were formed relatively recently. The genre is anything but dead.

Clearly states that Nickelback are Alternative Metal AND post-grunge .



lol.

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There's plenty of Alternative Rock still around, some of the stuff that comes up now is just a bit different than the alternative of the 90s, some is still similar though.

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#29 JML897
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Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
:lol:
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"]Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?JML897
:lol:

So if you got info from a gaming website, and that is the only source you know to go to, then how do you know the info is wrong? :lol:
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#31 flordeceres
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kid, you got issues

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#32 Kevlar101
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kid, you got issues

flordeceres
NO U
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#33 flordeceres
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as for my 2 cents, given that nickelback is bullsh!t and your brother in law's band or whatever is easily comparable, it is, by proxy, also bullsh!t

quit it

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#34 Kevlar101
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as for my 2 cents, given that nickelback is bullsh!t and your brother in law's band or whatever is easily comparable, it is, by proxy, also bullsh!t

quit it

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How? I mean seriously, I see no comparison whatsoever. Please explain to me how they are similar.
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#35 needled24-7
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please, PLEASE, don't try and make it come back

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#36 SteverXIII
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Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
Wow dude. Wow
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#37 Kevlar101
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[QUOTE="Kevlar101"] Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?SteverXIII
Wow dude. Wow

Theres a difference between stupidity and what I have been brought up to believe. all the sources I have read from said that Nickelback is "Alternative Metal". I have more than just 1 source, so don't you guys start going all "Wow dude. Wow." like I'm some sort of a dumb-fvck who does not know how to think for himself, and if you got info off the internet like I did, then I guess that makes whatever you gather wrong as well, if everything off the internet is a lie anyway. Go ahead, look up alternative metal and you will see what I mean. Prove that i'm the dumb-fvck.
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#38 Assassin_87
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Alternative rock isn't dead. That genre label is all but extinct, however, due to its vague and muddled nature over the years. What is alternative rock, exactly? The bands slapped with that identifier by various sources have ranged from Modest Mouse to 3 Doors Down.

What you linked to I would be inclined to call post-grunge, because despite your protests, they do resemble something like Nickelback quite a bit.

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#39 LJS9502_basic
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Alt rock is not dead.:|
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]Reminds me of Nickleback.Kevlar101
How? The genres are not even the same. Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?

Saying Nickleback and Metal in the same sentence takes away any of creditably that you had.
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#41 Swanogt19
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[QUOTE="SteverXIII"][QUOTE="Kevlar101"] Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
Wow dude. Wow

Theres a difference between stupidity and what I have been brought up to believe. all the sources I have read from said that Nickelback is "Alternative Metal". I have more than just 1 source, so don't you guys start going all "Wow dude. Wow." like I'm some sort of a dumb-fvck who does not know how to think for himself, and if you got info off the internet like I did, then I guess that makes whatever you gather wrong as well, if everything off the internet is a lie anyway. Go ahead, look up alternative metal and you will see what I mean. Prove that i'm the dumb-fvck.

You compared Dave Grohl and Neil Pert. Need I say more?
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#42 LJS9502_basic
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Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
Post grunge dude....and very bad.
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Wow,what a terrible way to hide a plugging thread
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Not until disco has had its time to shine again.

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#45 lo_Pine
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The term "Alternative rock" never meant anything in the first place to me. It doesn't even make sense.
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#46 Novotine
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="Kevlar101"]Nickleback is Alternative Metal :?Kevlar101
No. They're post-grunge. Alternative rock isn't dead. Have you ever listened to The Flaming Lips? They're extremely popular and are still going strong. There's quite a few other alternative rock acts out there too that are either still around or were formed relatively recently. The genre is anything but dead.

Clearly states that Nickelback are Alternative Metal AND post-grunge .

nickelback is alternative rock sry dude

that being said, there's very little metal elements that go into nickelback's music.

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#47 Jethawk11
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I don't think alternative rock is dead at all. Just turn on the radio and you should still hear plenty of alternative rock.

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#48 Serraph105
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I'm starting to think this topic was made with the intent of people arguing about Nickelback.

If so....well done TC.

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#49 lo_Pine
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I don't think alternative rock is dead at all. Just turn on the radio and you should still hear plenty of alternative rock.

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Alternative rock has always just been hard rock.
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#50 Jethawk11
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[QUOTE="Jethawk11"]

I don't think alternative rock is dead at all. Just turn on the radio and you should still hear plenty of alternative rock.

lo_Pine

Alternative rock has always just been hard rock.

I don't think they're interchangeable terms, but yeah, there's plenty of similarities between the two.