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I think the Fiscal Concerns in the United States are a little less serious then you see on CNN,
While the Economy is "Issue One" the reality is that the US Economy has not even reached the definition of Recession yet, you need to have for negative growth for two or more successive quarters of a year, the US Economy is yet to have one, and even Q1 of 2008 saw a small growth in the economy of 0.4%.
When we get to one quarter of negative growth then my all means, we should start to get as concerned as the News Media was two years ago, but the Sub-prime lending issue which helped the dollar get to where it was is nothing more then an example of people buying things they couldn't afford, and getting stomped as a result. Once you clean out the homeowners that should never have been homeowners the market for homes will level off again, I mean we did experience 16 years of growth in the housing market it was not going to last forever, especially with all these zero down mortgages that were being offered.
The market and the economy require a correction every so often, this is just another correction no different then we saw in the 90's and 80's.
All empires must come to an end... so we British can weasel our way back to the top :)Samwel_X
We still have the Queen on our money so I think we are covered in that event.
No I dont think so.
With that said, why does everyone think America is going to "crash and burn"? It seems like a lot of foreign liberals think America is like this giant roman empire and its going to collapse and Canadian barbarians are going to sweep down and deliver the death blow to washington DC.
Why cant America just, idunno, suddenly become place number two or three in terms of economy. I mean I see all these other countries and they are just fine not being the most profitable.
I dont doubt AMerica will go through rough times during my life, but I certainly dont think its going to die or self destruct lol.
The weak dollar ,the perspective of a financial meltdown, the endless Iraqi war ;the lack of strong and reliable moral values . Do you think that the American way of life is in its sunset ? Or is this just a small and unimportant crisis ?delol
Ah, we'll bounce back. We're Americans, it's what we do.
And when we do we will go back to pwning the world at everything and other countries will be as jealous as ever.
Canadian barbarians are going to sweep down and deliver the death blowmrbojangles25
Yes, this is a legitimate concern of mine. *casts a wary eye towards the North*
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Those foreign liberals you speak of have the wisdom that could save America from it's impending doom.No I dont think so.
With that said, why does everyone think America is going to "crash and burn"? It seems like a lot of foreign liberals think America is like this giant roman empire and its going to collapse and Canadian barbarians are going to sweep down and deliver the death blow to washington DC.
Why cant America just, idunno, suddenly become place number two or three in terms of economy. I mean I see all these other countries and they are just fine not being the most profitable.
I dont doubt AMerica will go through rough times during my life, but I certainly dont think its going to die or self destruct lol.
AmyMizuno
I didnt mean that as a negative. I mean...theyre foreign (to me) and they are liberal, so that makes them foreign liberals.
Sorry if I worded that poorly.
I would pay good money to see this idea put into film format.No I dont think so.
With that said, why does everyone think America is going to "crash and burn"? It seems like a lot of foreign liberals think America is like this giant roman empire and its going to collapse and Canadian barbarians are going to sweep down and deliver the death blow to washington DC.
mrbojangles25
[QUOTE="SIapshot"]The American way of life will live on through thick and thin. The politicians and lawmakers on the other hand, their days are numbered. There are over 80 million gun owners in America. Oil crisis? no problem. Americans were living large before gas engines. Americans will always have steak on the dinner table and fur on their backs.AmyMizunoI don't know if I should be laughing or crying. America was living large before gas engines? It wasn't until after World War I when America began to gain prominence in the worldwide economy, and travel has always increased economic activity, starting with the railroads and the steam engine. America's economy is running on oil, which may not be a good thing since we'running out of it... xDAmerica has always had an abundance of every single natural resource on the planet. Yes, we were living large before gas engines. It wasn't until after WWI that we realized our potential, and even then it was a partial realization.
America's economy may run on oil, but the American way of life has always been one of self-sufficiency, starting with American pioneers. Laugh, cry, whatever.
[QUOTE="delol"]The weak dollar ,the perspective of a financial meltdown, the endless Iraqi war ;the lack of strong and reliable moral values . Do you think that the American way of life is in its sunset ? Or is this just a small and unimportant crisis ?AmyMizunoI don't think that the lack of strong and reliable moral values is very important, but besides that I would agree with you. America is in need of a change, and a change in it's economic system would be very nice. It's time to do away with fake capitalism and trickle up economics. Sorry to disagree We in europe (except of coarse the French:lol: ) use to admire those young american boys that came up and help us defeating the nazis and sustain the communist domination over the continent ,During many decades America was the dreamland for Europeans .Why? Because we associate the Nation whit the values of freedom, and rightness now a days after Vietnam ,Iraq GWB this general idea is fade away and we regard the US not a part of the solution but a part of the problem (A nation that spend a great part of the world resources and is doing everything to keep its unfair status )
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]I would pay good money to see this idea put into film format.No I dont think so.
With that said, why does everyone think America is going to "crash and burn"? It seems like a lot of foreign liberals think America is like this giant roman empire and its going to collapse and Canadian barbarians are going to sweep down and deliver the death blow to washington DC.
Elraptor
All empires must come to an end... so we British can weasel our way back to the top :)Samwel_XGlad we're a republic, then
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]I would pay good money to see this idea put into film format.No I dont think so.
With that said, why does everyone think America is going to "crash and burn"? It seems like a lot of foreign liberals think America is like this giant roman empire and its going to collapse and Canadian barbarians are going to sweep down and deliver the death blow to washington DC.
Elraptor
Me too. Who knows what Canada has buried underneath all that ice. I mean, look at Canada on a globe...then look at all that land in north canada; its frightening!
do not give food to one american and 20 afrikans will be able to eat NUFF SAID
DrCoCoPiMp
and somehow this is our fault?
I wasnt aware we were stealing food from Africa. In fact, I am pretty sure most of the food in the US is produced in the US through the hard work of farmers and illegal immigrants.
Plus the same can be said for the British, the Germans, the French, the Italians...take food away from any Western person and you can feed 20 africans.
I dont mind people critiquing the US, just dont say we are the only people with problems OK? Not to mention that when someone's statement ends with "nuff said/period/end o'story/etc" it means theyre full of crap.
'nuff said :P
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Samwel_X"]All empires must come to an end... so we British can weasel our way back to the top :)AmyMizunoGlad we're a republic, then
[QUOTE="SIapshot"]I don't know if I should be laughing or crying. America was living large before gas engines? It wasn't until after World War I when America began to gain prominence in the worldwide economy, and travel has always increased economic activity, starting with the railroads and the steam engine. America's economy is running on oil, which may not be a good thing since we'running out of it... xDAmerica has always had an abundance of every single natural resource on the planet. Yes, we were living large before gas engines. It wasn't until after WWI that we realized our potential, and even then it was a partial realization.[QUOTE="AmyMizuno"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]The American way of life will live on through thick and thin. The politicians and lawmakers on the other hand, their days are numbered. There are over 80 million gun owners in America. Oil crisis? no problem. Americans were living large before gas engines. Americans will always have steak on the dinner table and fur on their backs.AmyMizuno
America's economy may run on oil, but the American way of life has always been one of self-sufficiency, starting with American pioneers. Laugh, cry, whatever.
This is a false, and dramatized view of the United States that is not only inaccurate, but misleading, as it would be precidence to continue in our current path of fake capitalism, and trickle up economics.As opposed to your pop culture, media driven, alarmist, college kid-trying-to-make-a-difference view of the United States. Most Americans are perfectly capable of living comfortably without oil. What makes it onto the alarmist documentaries are the urban populations who can't support their own kids much less themselves, and the companies who will DIE without oil. Wake up.[QUOTE="AmyMizuno"][QUOTE="delol"]The weak dollar ,the perspective of a financial meltdown, the endless Iraqi war ;the lack of strong and reliable moral values . Do you think that the American way of life is in its sunset ? Or is this just a small and unimportant crisis ?delolI don't think that the lack of strong and reliable moral values is very important, but besides that I would agree with you. America is in need of a change, and a change in it's economic system would be very nice. It's time to do away with fake capitalism and trickle up economics. Sorry to disagree We in europe (except of coarse the French:lol: ) use to admire those young american boys that came up and help us defeating the nazis and sustain the communist domination over the continent ,During many decades America was the dreamland for Europeans .Why? Because we associate the Nation whit the values of freedom, and rightness now a days after Vietnam ,Iraq GWB this general idea is fade away and we regard the US not a part of the solution but a part of the problem (A nation that spend a great part of the world resources and is doing everything to keep its unfair status )
ya its very sad how W. Bush has destroyed our international reputation. I hope whoever our next prez is repairs this and restores international faith in the US.
The weak dollar ,the perspective of a financial meltdown, the endless Iraqi war ;the lack of strong and reliable moral values . Do you think that the American way of life is in its sunset ? Or is this just a small and unimportant crisis ?delol
Hey, atleast we still got plenty of food and homes, and theres no war over here.
[QUOTE="AmyMizuno"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]I don't know if I should be laughing or crying. America was living large before gas engines? It wasn't until after World War I when America began to gain prominence in the worldwide economy, and travel has always increased economic activity, starting with the railroads and the steam engine. America's economy is running on oil, which may not be a good thing since we'running out of it... xDAmerica has always had an abundance of every single natural resource on the planet. Yes, we were living large before gas engines. It wasn't until after WWI that we realized our potential, and even then it was a partial realization.[QUOTE="AmyMizuno"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]The American way of life will live on through thick and thin. The politicians and lawmakers on the other hand, their days are numbered. There are over 80 million gun owners in America. Oil crisis? no problem. Americans were living large before gas engines. Americans will always have steak on the dinner table and fur on their backs.SIapshot
America's economy may run on oil, but the American way of life has always been one of self-sufficiency, starting with American pioneers. Laugh, cry, whatever.
This is a false, and dramatized view of the United States that is not only inaccurate, but misleading, as it would be precidence to continue in our current path of fake capitalism, and trickle up economics.As opposed to your pop culture, media driven, alarmist, college kid-trying-to-make-a-difference view of the United States. Most Americans are perfectly capable of living comfortably without oil. What makes it onto the alarmist documentaries are the urban populations who can't support their own kids much less themselves, and the companies who will DIE without oil. Wake up.Yep. There are literally thousands of alternatives to oil waiting to be put into use or discovered. I mean we already have a sustainable resource to produce plastics; it just isnt put into use yet because there is still oil.
The fact is, a lot of hippies hope/think America will crash but in all likelihood they are wrong. Oh I am sure in the future there will be a stock market crash of "epic" proportions, and I am sure there will be fear mongering when oil slows to a trickle and reaches 5 bucks a gallon, but we will recover. We always do.
I think thats part of american "arrogence". We are extremely aggressive and competative, a lot of times to a disadvantage. But it also pays off. I remember playing sports with some Immigrants, and they were not disappointed in losing. I remember thinking "Arent you guys pissed off? We just lost the game?" and they were totally indifferent about it. For better or worse, Americans dont like to lose and we will seek any means to keep our societ productive and powerful. Whether this means invading other countries for oil (like we do now) or investing billions into green and sustainable resources and sources of energy (like we should, and often do, now) it doesnt matter.
[QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]do not give food to one american and 20 afrikans will be able to eat NUFF SAID
mrbojangles25
and somehow this is our fault?
I wasnt aware we were stealing food from Africa. In fact, I am pretty sure most of the food in the US is produced in the US through the hard work of farmers and illegal immigrants.
Plus the same can be said for the British, the Germans, the French, the Italians...take food away from any Western person and you can feed 20 africans.
I dont mind people critiquing the US, just dont say we are the only people with problems OK? Not to mention that when someone's statement ends with "nuff said/period/end o'story/etc" it means theyre full of crap.
'nuff said :P
lol I didnt blame americans, cuz I'm French-Canadian, and if you guys are guilty than so I am. Just sayin' the facts that we are majorly abusing the ressources of Earth while some people still try'in to eat everything they got under their eyes.
dont be so rude dude by tellin me I'm full of crap cuz I said two words you saw outta the mouth of other people, I didnt attack you
Delol an amy
sad fact for you .. USA set your precedent on monetary systems .. all due too the $ = oil barrel, an stock exchange ..
MY Big Concern IS WHY OH WHY was the China COMMIE Threat NOT bad for the USA ...????
But as the Red Commie slave nation Now Produce Everything , at a silly price too Please the WESTERN Overseas Investors ..
When is USA/Western societies gonna wake up ..................you got owned by the commies ..lol
Even the UN has called a motion that says that Red China is a slave nation, for the Red Commie Party Elite who are multi = multi -billionaires ..:( :( :( :( :(
but the average slave factory worker is on 15cents/8 pence an hour ......Im glad the UN are waking up that China does the world producing ... what happens when they put the prices up .... ????
Sooner than later .. :(
UN said if it happens now an they put a trade embargo on a country .
it would be in ANARCHY in DAYS NOT WEEKS ..:(
the Red Russkies tried to Bankrupt the US in the 60s , an failed ..by The Cia stopping the Stock Crash ... looks like the Red Menace Rules the World ..lol, where was the CIA here ?
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="AmyMizuno"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Samwel_X"]All empires must come to an end... so we British can weasel our way back to the top :)AmyMizunoGlad we're a republic, then
[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="AmyMizuno"]This is a false, and dramatized view of the United States that is not only inaccurate, but misleading, as it would be precidence to continue in our current path of fake capitalism, and trickle up economics.AmyMizunoAs opposed to your pop culture, media driven, alarmist, college kid-trying-to-make-a-difference view of the United States. Most Americans are perfectly capable of living comfortably without oil. What makes it onto the alarmist documentaries are the urban populations who can't support their own kids much less themselves, and the companies who will DIE without oil. Wake up.I didn't say companies would die without oil. It's not that simple. The congress has been lobbied by the oil industry to prevent research from alternative fuel sources, and that's why we're where we are today. or the oil companies say they'll buy a patent so they can invest more money in it, then destroy the patent
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]do not give food to one american and 20 afrikans will be able to eat NUFF SAID
DrCoCoPiMp
and somehow this is our fault?
I wasnt aware we were stealing food from Africa. In fact, I am pretty sure most of the food in the US is produced in the US through the hard work of farmers and illegal immigrants.
Plus the same can be said for the British, the Germans, the French, the Italians...take food away from any Western person and you can feed 20 africans.
I dont mind people critiquing the US, just dont say we are the only people with problems OK? Not to mention that when someone's statement ends with "nuff said/period/end o'story/etc" it means theyre full of crap.
'nuff said :P
lol I didnt blame americans, cuz I'm French-Canadian, and if you guys are guilty than so I am. Just sayin' the facts that we are majorly abusing the ressources of Earth while some people still try'in to eat everything they got under their eyes.
dont be so rude dude by tellin me I'm full of crap cuz I said two words you saw outta the mouth of other people, I didnt attack you
I fail to see how "do not give food to one american and 20 afrikans will be able to eat NUFF SAID" is not attacking Americans. its biased, and considering the way the arguments on this thread are going it was not incorrect of me to assume you meant wrong.
With that said, sorry for assuming so, but you cant blame me for thinking you meant offense.
I do agree its said that with our resources we cant feed the world, but whats more said is that a country with as much land as Africa cant produce enough food to feed its people. The world is what you make it, and the Africans dont seem to want to make it a better place for themselves.
In short, dont blame America for African poverty; blame Africa for African poverty.
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="AmyMizuno"]As a software engineer, I know how easy it would be to rig an electronic voting machine. I could even do it myself.AmyMizunoOkay and I know how easy it would be to get a gun from my dad's locker and kill someone. I don't
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