Is the Bible an Attempt to Explain the Night Sky?

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#1 C_Town_Soul
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Okay I'm assuming most of you have seen that Zeitgeist movie, or at least the Christianity/Jesus part of it. Before you disregard my post by saying the movie has already been debunked, I know it has...at least for the most part. The movie made huge logical leaps to come to the conclusion that Jesus was based of other pagan deities. The one part of the movie that piqued my interest was the astrological part because it seemed to make too much sense to be more than just a coincidence. The movie describes the 3 stars in Orion's Belt as the 3 Kings/wisemen and on December 25th rise an hour before the Star of the East (Sirius, the brightest star in the sky other than the sun) and they generally line up and point to where the sun (Jesus) will rise at dawn. Jesus' ressurection is on this day because thereafter, the days finally start getting longer.

Anyway I was kinda disappointed that the movie didn't go on a more detailed explanation than it did, so I did some research and found a website that better explains it, and better details the characters of the bible and which constellations represent them. Essentially Joseph is represented by the constellation Bootes, which always stands by Virgo, the Virgin, which represents the virgin-Mary. At dawn, Virgo appears to be lying on her side as if to be giving birth.

Herod is represented by the serpent, Serpens Caput, which is located next to Bootes. Herod sends the 3 wise men to Bethleham (House of Bread, which is why Virgo is depicted holding a stalk of wheat) to find Jesus. In Matthew ch.2, it says that the wisemen "from the east...have seen his star in the East." How can something from the East see something in the East. This is because the Wisemen (Orion's Belt) rises in the East before about an hour before the Star of the East (Sirius) does. Later in Matthew 2:12, the Wisemen in a dream are told not to return to Herod but return to their country from another way. How can this be? Easy. The stars in the sky rise from East to West. They don't change directions which is why the wise men can't return from the same way they came.

So I just wanted to post this and see what you all think. This isn't the only part of the Bible that seems to explain the constellations in the sky. There is a whole other page that talks about the Garden of Eden. Basically in the OT, it uses the same constellations for both Adam and Eve and the serpent being the serpent of the garden. Bootes with his arm raised represents Adam as he exposes his rib to god to create Eve. Pretty interesting stuff. Of course there's no way to say if all or any of this stuff is true. At least for me, this gives a better explanation for how some of the biblical stories were derived from.

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So are you asking if the Bible influenced the naming and formation of the constellations, or are you asking if the constellations influenced the Bible's stories?

If the latter, then I regret to inform you that the Greeks didn't practise astrology until the 4th century B.C. . . .

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Okay I'm assuming most of you have seen that Zeitgeist movie ,[...]C_Town_Soul

That "documentary" has been debunked countless times. It uses fabricated evidence to support its claims.

Most of the Bible, like most other religious texts from the era and area; copy and paste different stories taken from other cultures and makes them their own. It was a common practice at the time, since taking another groups moral story was easier than making your own.
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[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"]Okay I'm assuming most of you have seen that Zeitgeist movie ,[...]foxhound_fox

That "documentary" has been debunked countless times. It uses fabricated evidence to support its claims.

Most of the Bible, like most other religious texts from the era and area; copy and paste different stories taken from other cultures and makes them their own. It was a common practice at the time, since taking another groups moral story was easier than making your own.

read the sentence after that.
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The bible is only THE 2nd best selling fiction novel ever SOLD!....(#1 is actually the iKea catalog).
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The bible is only THE 2nd best selling fiction novel ever SOLD!....(#1 is actually the iKea catalog).trubluah
your point?
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the Bible is what God told his people to write, not something based on stars
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the Bible is what God told his people to write, not something based on starsubersport
"He (Elijah) went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, "Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!" And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys." (2 Kings 2:23-24) Is Elijah not a reference to Bootes, the Bear-driver and the two "she-bears" not references to Ursa Major and Minor--both of which lie next to Bootes in the night sky?
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the Bible is what God told his people to write, not something based on starsubersport

Hello there. :)

The bible is actually what people decided to write, after unknowingly feeling inspired by their own majesty. They became confused and figured they were the product of a higher power, when really, they are part of the infinite beauty of the power they became enamored with all along.

There is no God, because everything is one. But I'm pretty sure you knew that already, you just like to kid, I know. :)

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#10 MrGeezer
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Supposedly, the bible is the word of god, and therefore it explains EVERYTHING.

 

At least, that's what people tell me.Â