is there a historical prove of jesus?

I mean besides the bible

I really hope this doesn´t turn into a atheist vs religious debate

Yes. There is no question that he was a real person.

was there a man that lived in that time period named jesus? probably

was he the son of god and possessed magical abilities? probably not

Yes. There is no question that he was a real person.

Pirate700

Well there always is a question, I mean are you a real person?:question:

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Yes. There is no question that he was a real person.

UserBane

Well there always is a question, I mean are you a real person?:question:

Historically, yes.

His divinity however is up for debate. (Not in this thread I hope.)

Aside from the Bible, there really isn't a whole lot. In fact I can't really think of any written account of Christ other than the Bible.clubsammich91

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Yes. There is no question that he was a real person.

UserBane

Well there always is a question, I mean are you a real person?:question:

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Aside from the Bible, there really isn't a whole lot. In fact I can't really think of any written account of Christ other than the Bible.AlphaRail

I might be asking for something that might just be too hard, can anyone tell me what is that historical reference of jesus?

I know that with him being born, and throughout his life, he fullfilled a countless number of prohpecies set many years before. He is also accepted as a real person, beside just from the bible or religous outlook. You must also remember the bible even if you aren't religous can serve as a history book.

There are references by historians - Tacitus and Pliny the Younger come to mind.PannicAtack

thanks, I´ll try to look for them, it´s even better that you said 2 since i had heard there is one that is fake

I know that with him being born, and throughout his life, he fullfilled a countless number of prohpecies set many years before. He is also accepted as a real person, beside just from the bible or religous outlook. You must also remember the bible even if you aren't religous can serve as a history book.

VisigothSaxon

VERY true however it will always say the best about their god so it can´t be SOOO reliable

my mexican friend's name is jesus

I know that with him being born, and throughout his life, he fullfilled a countless number of prohpecies set many years before. He is also accepted as a real person, beside just from the bible or religous outlook. You must also remember the bible even if you aren't religous can serve as a history book.

VisigothSaxon

No...not really :|

There are references by historians - Tacitus and Pliny the Younger come to mind.PannicAtack

read this link

http://roman-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/pliny_tacitus_josephus_and_jesus

I also noticed pliny the younger was alive when jesus wasn´t supposed to be

maybe i´m being too harsh because I haven´t read this things and well I´ve heard that no one knows exactly when was jesus born and that the bc ac years are just estimates

I remember reading that there was historical execution records from the Romans in Damascus that stated that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified in that time period. Whether or not that was the "Jesus" is a different matter. I'll have to dig up a link.

Perhaps this article will provide the answers you seek.

Or better yet... this one

You must also remember the bible even if you aren't religous can serve as a history book.

VisigothSaxon

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]There are references by historians - Tacitus and Pliny the Younger come to mind.hyrueprince11

thanks, I´ll try to look for them, it´s even better that you said 2 since i had heard there is one that is fake

i guess

i guess

Decko5

oh please don´t get us started with that

I'm fairly certain that Jesus's existence is regarded as historical fact. Though, I don't believe he was divine. Merely a carpenter with a lovely outlook and charm.

You're better off doing research for yourself rather than asking the mostly adamantatheist group of gamespotters. Some of the articles being linked here are even less convincing than the bible.

You're better off doing research for yourself rather than asking the mostly adamantatheist group of gamespotters. Some of the articles being linked here are even less convincing than the bible.

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i guess

hyrueprince11

oh please don´t get us started with that

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]There are references by historians - Tacitus and Pliny the Younger come to mind.hyrueprince11

read this link

http://roman-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/pliny_tacitus_josephus_and_jesus

I also noticed pliny the younger was alive when jesus wasn´t supposed to be

maybe i´m being too harsh because I haven´t read this things and well I´ve heard that no one knows exactly when was jesus born and that the bc ac years are just estimates

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[QUOTE="Decko5"]

i guess

Pirate700

oh please don´t get us started with that

Long story short, religious artifact, stuff attributed to it, rather dubious.

Wikipedia

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[QUOTE="Decko5"]

i guess

Pirate700

oh please don´t get us started with that

[QUOTE="hyrueprince11"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]There are references by historians - Tacitus and Pliny the Younger come to mind.PannicAtack

read this link

http://roman-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/pliny_tacitus_josephus_and_jesus

I also noticed pliny the younger was alive when jesus wasn´t supposed to be

maybe i´m being too harsh because I haven´t read this things and well I´ve heard that no one knows exactly when was jesus born and that the bc ac years are just estimates

I´m not sure, that´s why I added the part where i said maybe I´m being too harsh

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[QUOTE="hyrueprince11"]

oh please don´t get us started with that

chrisrooR

He was just like any other person. Nothing special about him.

[QUOTE="Decko5"]

i guess

hyrueprince11

oh please don´t get us started with that

I like the grilled cheese sandwich of the Virgin Mary which sold on eBay for $28,000

There are many historical accounts of Jesus outside of the Bible. Jesus the person absolutely existed.

Whether or not He was actually the Son of God is where the debate lies.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] I'm not particularly well-versed in this area of history. However, if we are to dismiss Tacitus as being "born too late," would we also have to throw out his writings on Nero or Tiberius?CrimzonTide

am I immature if I laughed?

am I immature if I laughed?hyrueprince11