Is this quote about Race, Religion, Ethnic pride, Nationalism true or bogus ?

Race, Religion, Ethnic Pride, Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people you have never met - Doug Stanhope

Now i personally do not know the guy who the quote was taken from but its giving me some re-think about nationalism in particular, whats your take on the quote OT

I agree to an extent with the racial pride part.

I primarily agree

i somewhat agree with that statement

Race, Religion, Ethnic Pride, Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people you have never met - Doug Stanhope

Now i personally do not know the guy who the quote was taken from but its giving me some re-think about nationalism in particular, whats your take on the quote OT

megaspiderweb09

It is somewhat true "BUT" the key to not allowing religion, race, etc. to divide people is "KNOWLEDGE" and "BALANCE". It's ok to be proud of who you are and what you believe in as long as you can "RESPECT" people who are different or who dis-agree with you.

I personally see people in the world as one big family but just different tribes. I mean...look at a family in general, you got mom, dad, bother, sister, uncle, aunt etc.You all share the same blood, but you also have different personalities. Same thing with people of the world we might be of a different race or belief, but we all come from the same biological source.

In my opinion, it's the people in power who use those things to keep the ignorant divided.

agreed Wish there is no reason for any of it exist.  This world would be whole lot better place

This is relevant.

Definitely some truth in it. Problem is of course, if you don't have those qualities, then what do you have? And the absence of those qualities doesn't mean that you won't hate others you haven't met, nor does it mean that you will get on with them. Lastly, even if you do have those qualities, it's still very possible to get on with others providing there's mutual respect and trust.michaelP4

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I agree

Race, Religion, Ethnic Pride, Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to hate people you have never met - Doug Stanhope

Now i personally do not know the guy who the quote was taken from but its giving me some re-think about nationalism in particular, whats your take on the quote OT

megaspiderweb09

Yes they only stand as a seperator for our people as a whole.

Take pride in our common humanity.

People just want to feel like they belong and that the stuff they decide to like and particpate in is acceptable. I do really wish we could get past issues like nationalism and such, but people are stubborn. 

It's an ignorant and ridiculously shortsighted comment. So I'm pretty sure it's bogus.

I primarily agree

Wolf-Man2006

Very much disagree.chessmaster1989

Definitely false, though those can certainly fuel hatred.

having pride doesnt necessarily mean you have to hate others. It's when you get fanatical about nationalism, religion, pretty much anything, that it turns into intolerance and hate

I think it's more of a dominance thing than a hate thing.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Very much disagree.Yusuke420

Stanhope is a great comedian and that's a great quote. None of it matters. Nationalism in particular has always confused me. It's weird how people take pride in what patch of land between invisible lines they happened to be born on.bort_hurs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OnWnwwxNPA

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Very much disagree.chessmaster1989

This is relivant.

 

Nibroc420

I disagree; people may use them to justify their hatred, but that doesn't mean that they teach hatred.

This is relevant.

 

Nibroc420

To say that it always leads to hatred towards others would be untrue. Sometimes this maybe the case, yes, but it's not an absolutely inevitable rule.mindstorm

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Very much disagree.Yusuke420

And we wouldn't be people anymore.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Very much disagree.N30F3N1X

And we wouldn't be people anymore.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Very much disagree.Yusuke420

Why not? FuggaJ

Ignorance is the cause of conflict and incomprehension. Not ignorance just as in "not knowing", but also as in "interpreting things the wrong way".

Knowledge, especially culture, is an extremely powerful tool in shaping, hardening and harnessing a person's personality and "being". And is also the best cure for ignorance. A person who does not have knowledge or wisdom is little more than a broken tool who thinks he is capable of independent thought.

Thinking things like the one quoted in the OP means you are ignorant yourself. None of them are inherently evil and none of them should be treated as such.

edit: wrong snip

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]It's bullsh*t. None of those ideas have anything to do with hating those that are different. However, people apply these ideas to spew hatred towards others. The ideas are not a living thing, they cannot control how they are used by certain individuals. The ideas themselves don't lead towards hatred, the way people apply them do.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Very much disagree.Yusuke420

The quote's a bit of an exaggeration but I agree with the sentiment.

Things like religion, nationalism, and race are on good days just innocuously silly, and on bad days cause obvious harm. 

that quote fits Israel to the T

It's bullsh*t. None of those ideas have anything to do with hating those that are different. However, people apply these ideas to spew hatred towards others. The ideas are not a living thing, they cannot control how they are used by certain individuals. The ideas themselves don't lead towards hatred, the way people apply them do.Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]It's bullsh*t. None of those ideas have anything to do with hating those that are different. However, people apply these ideas to spew hatred towards others. The ideas are not a living thing, they cannot control how they are used by certain individuals. The ideas themselves don't lead towards hatred, the way people apply them do.Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="FuggaJ"]Why not? N30F3N1X

Ignorance is the cause of conflict and incomprehension. Not ignorance just as in "not knowing", but also as in "interpreting things the wrong way".

Knowledge, especially culture, is an extremely powerful tool in shaping, hardening and harnessing a person's personality and "being". And is also the best cure for ignorance. A person who does not have knowledge or wisdom is little more than a broken tool who thinks he is capable of independent thought.

Thinking things like the one quoted in the OP means you are ignorant yourself. None of them are inherently evil and none of them should be treated as such.

edit: wrong snip