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#1 DASHINGCody
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This guy has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest and there's a lot of controversy about it. People are saying he's a racist and saying all sorts of rude comments about him. What do you think? Here's the link to the whole video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEOAcuquRo

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#2 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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Being proud of your skin colour is exceptionally silly.
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#3 Wolls
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No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays
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#4 thattotally
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What does racist in this context mean?

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#5 MediumBread
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Not even remotely racist.

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#6 pride93x
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Maybe I should get a tattoo saying better white then black. Now that's racist. (this message was posted as an example of sarcasm, I do not hate african-americans or any other skin tone, except green)

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#7 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays Wolls
No, I would argue that implying your skin colour is something to be proud of is indeed racist. Not that it matters, because the term 'racist' has been abused to the point that it's meaningless.
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#8 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Do I think it racist? No.. Do I think it stupid? Yes.
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#9 SolidSnake35
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He's not even brown.

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#10 VisigothSaxon
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This guy has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest and there's a lot of controversy about it. People are saying he's a racist and saying all sorts of rude comments about him. What do you think? Here's the link to the whole video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEOAcuquRo

DASHINGCody

Think about it this way, they wouldn't allow someone with a White Pride Tattoo in the UFC. So yes, the Brown Pride tattoo is a form of Brown Superiority and Racism.

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#11 MediumBread
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He's not even brown.

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This is actually true.

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#12 Wolls
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[QUOTE="Wolls"]No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays TELLMEYOURLIFE
No, I would argue that implying your skin colour is something to be proud of is indeed racist. Not that it matters, because the term 'racist' has been abused to the point that it's meaningless.

Well thats not what he was saying. Sure I can see why you might think that but he explains that it was not a reference to his skin colour but to his Mexican heritage, like saying proud to be american etc. I agree that it could have been more clear but getting upset about this is just overreacting imo
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#13 travisstaggs
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Hes just proud of his heritage, its not racist at all.

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#14 lil_speedy_rvd
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Maybe I should get a tattoo saying better white then black. Now that's racist. (this message was posted as an example of sarcasm, I do not hate african-americans or any other skin tone, except green)

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tell that to the incredible Hulk! i bet hes gonna find that racist! anyways on topic, it not racist hes just expressing something about himself. if he were to say something derogatory towards another race then i could see it being racist.
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#15 VisigothSaxon
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No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays Wolls

Why can't white people be proud of their heritage now in days, I mean if they are, they are labeled as White Supremicists. Why should other races be allowed this? It is like, why do African Americans and Latinos have their own History Month?

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#16 MediumBread
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[QUOTE="Wolls"]No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays VisigothSaxon

Why can't white people be proud of their heritage now in days, I mean if they are, they are labeled as White Supremicists. Why should other races be allowed this? It is like, why do African Americans and Latinos have their own History Month?

I think it's called reverse-racism.

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#17 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="Wolls"]No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays Wolls
No, I would argue that implying your skin colour is something to be proud of is indeed racist. Not that it matters, because the term 'racist' has been abused to the point that it's meaningless.

Well thats not what he was saying. Sure I can see why you might think that but he explains that it was not a reference to his skin colour but to his Mexican heritage, like saying proud to be american etc. I agree that it could have been more clear but getting upset about this is just overreacting imo

To be fair, I didn't watch the video, I'm basing my opinion surely on the idea of a "brown pride" tattoo. And yeah, I don't care at all. Let him have it.
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#18 VisigothSaxon
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[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

[QUOTE="Wolls"]No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays MediumBread

Why can't white people be proud of their heritage now in days, I mean if they are, they are labeled as White Supremicists. Why should other races be allowed this? It is like, why do African Americans and Latinos have their own History Month?

I think it's called reverse-racism.

Exactly.

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#19 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

[QUOTE="Wolls"]No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays MediumBread

Why can't white people be proud of their heritage now in days, I mean if they are, they are labeled as White Supremicists. Why should other races be allowed this? It is like, why do African Americans and Latinos have their own History Month?

I think it's called reverse-racism.

There is no such thing.
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#20 MediumBread
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[QUOTE="MediumBread"]

[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

Why can't white people be proud of their heritage now in days, I mean if they are, they are labeled as White Supremicists. Why should other races be allowed this? It is like, why do African Americans and Latinos have their own History Month?

TELLMEYOURLIFE

I think it's called reverse-racism.

There is no such thing.

I hate it when people make statments like this and don't provide a explaination.

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#21 Hexagon_777
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If saying "White Pride" is racist, then so is this. Equality FTW.
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#22 HAHAITHINKNOT
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The implication is that your skin colour is something to be proud of, which elevates your race above others. It has racist implications, which he may or may not realise.
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#23 VisigothSaxon
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If saying "White Pride" is racist, then so is this. Equality FTW.Hexagon_777

Exactly what I was saying.

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#25 wstfld
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He should have put Mexican Pride instead. Once you start going colors, it gets a little dicey (except black, because they have no idea what country they came from).
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#26 Tweetie-Pot
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Too many racist threads.
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#27 aransom
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This guy has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest

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Of course he's not racist. Only white people are capable of being racist.

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#28 XilePrincess
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Well, isn't "brown pride" specific. Doesn't sound racist, just sounds like he's stupid.
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#29 spliffstar12
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not racist at all
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#30 jimmyjammer69
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That has to be a lost bet.
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#31 TBoogy
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If saying "White Pride" is racist, then so is this. Equality FTW.Hexagon_777
Saying "White Pride" isn't "racist". But people who say "White Pride!" usually are.
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#32 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="MediumBread"]

I think it's called reverse-racism.

MediumBread

There is no such thing.

I hate it when people make statments like this and don't provide a explaination.

It didn't need one. The concept of "reverse racism' is silly because it implies "regular" racism comes solely from white people. Racism is racism.
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#33 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]If saying "White Pride" is racist, then so is this. Equality FTW.VisigothSaxon

Exactly what I was saying.

sorry nazi skinheads ruined that for you guys
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#34 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]If saying "White Pride" is racist, then so is this. Equality FTW.spliffstar12

Exactly what I was saying.

sorry nazi skinheads ruined that for you guys

No, if "brown pride" is acceptable (which you posted earlier), then so is "white pride".
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#35 MediumBread
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[QUOTE="MediumBread"]

[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]There is no such thing.TELLMEYOURLIFE

I hate it when people make statments like this and don't provide a explaination.

It didn't need one. The concept of "reverse racism' is silly because it implies "regular" racism comes solely from white people. Racism is racism.

Reverse discrimination (also known as positive or benign discrimination) is discrimination against members of a dominant or majority group, or in favor of members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group.

Not really.

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#36 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"][QUOTE="VisigothSaxon"]

Exactly what I was saying.

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sorry nazi skinheads ruined that for you guys

No, if "brown pride" is acceptable (which you posted earlier), then so is "white pride".

no its not if you were to get a white pride tattoo you would be assumed to be a racist, nazi, skinhead etc. and its completely understandable considering who usually has white pride tattoos and guess what its nazi skinheads etc

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#37 jubino
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Maybe he's partial to Cleveland's football team?

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#38 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="MediumBread"]

I hate it when people make statments like this and don't provide a explaination.

MediumBread

It didn't need one. The concept of "reverse racism' is silly because it implies "regular" racism comes solely from white people. Racism is racism.

Reverse discrimination (also known as positive or benign discrimination) is discrimination against members of a dominant or majority group, or in favor of members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group.

Not really.

Isn't that what I just said Swipes? The "dominant or majority group" your dictionary definition describes is, at least today, white people. Like I said, racism is racism and discrimination is discrimination.
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#39 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="spliffstar12"] sorry nazi skinheads ruined that for you guysspliffstar12

No, if "brown pride" is acceptable (which you posted earlier), then so is "white pride".

no its not if you were to get a white pride tattoo you would be assumed to be a racist, nazi, skinhead etc. and its completely understandable considering who usually has white pride tattoos and guess what its nazi skinheads etc

I don't care what people assume, either both are right or both are wrong.
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#40 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]

[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]No, if "brown pride" is acceptable (which you posted earlier), then so is "white pride".TELLMEYOURLIFE

no its not if you were to get a white pride tattoo you would be assumed to be a racist, nazi, skinhead etc. and its completely understandable considering who usually has white pride tattoos and guess what its nazi skinheads etc

I don't care what people assume, either both are right or both are wrong.

then go get one, no ones stopping you but everyone will assume your a nazi skinhead because like i said nazi skinheads ruined it for you

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#41 ImaPirate0202
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Maybe he's partial to Cleveland's football team?

jubino

That's what I was thinking, maybe he's just a Browns fan.

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#42 MediumBread
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[QUOTE="MediumBread"]

[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]It didn't need one. The concept of "reverse racism' is silly because it implies "regular" racism comes solely from white people. Racism is racism.TELLMEYOURLIFE

Reverse discrimination (also known as positive or benign discrimination) is discrimination against members of a dominant or majority group, or in favor of members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group.

Not really.

Isn't that what I just said Swipes? The "dominant or majority group" your dictionary definition describes is, at least today, white people. Like I said, racism is racism and discrimination is discrimination.

That would depend on the country actually. Reverse racisim doesn't doesn't just apply to whites. But in the case of America, yes.

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#43 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="MediumBread"]

Reverse discrimination (also known as positive or benign discrimination) is discrimination against members of a dominant or majority group, or in favor of members of a minority or historically disadvantaged group.

Not really.

MediumBread

Isn't that what I just said Swipes? The "dominant or majority group" your dictionary definition describes is, at least today, white people. Like I said, racism is racism and discrimination is discrimination.

That would depend on the country actually. Reverse racisim isn't doesn't just apply to whites. But in the case of America, yes.

Yeah, I was talking about the western world, which is there this term is actually uttered.
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#44 majwill24
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You should post this topic in a forum that has more black,yellow and brown people. In my experiences many white people are completely lost on how to discuss race relations.

I can say things in a class or in a group of blacks and Hispanics about civil rights and racial perceptions without being called a racist. say it here and boy, the heat comes down.

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#45 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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You should post this topic in a forum that has more black,yellow and brown people. In my experiences many white people are completely lost on how to discuss race relations.

I can say things in a class or in a group of blacks and Hispanics about civil rights and racial perceptions without being called a racist. say it here and boy, the heat comes down.

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Lol white pride.
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#46 Crimsader
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Brown pride is not racist. But white pride is.
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#47 TELLMEYOURLIFE
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Brown pride is not racist. But white pride is.Crimsader
Joking?
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#48 Vader993
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Brown pride is not racist. But white pride is.Crimsader
;how so

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#49 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="Crimsader"]Brown pride is not racist. But white pride is.Vader993

;how so

I don't get why this so hard for people to understand. White pride has been associated with racism for a long time now and brown pride hasn't. Obviously having a tattoo that says white pride wont make you a racist its just a tattoo but if you want to go get one don't be surprised that people will think your a racist skinhead piece of **** and you can thank nazi skinheads etc for that.

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#50 rcafan
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No, sounds like he is saying he is proud of his heritage, people seem to take offence over nothing nowadays Wolls
so far listen to the video yes i agree.