Is world peace obtainable as long as religion exists?

In a perfect world, religions should be able to co-exist with each other, but fanatics ruin it. This is why religion needs to be eradicated, or reduced down to little cults. I feel that, at this point, it's just holding us back.

P.S. I'm not saying God doesn't exist or whatever.

And your answer involves exterminating or otherwise oppressing the majority of the world's population, which is completely contradictory to your goal. World peace is unattainable as long as life itself exists. Humans, animals, or whatever else you can think of all need to fight to survive.

And your answer involves exterminating or otherwise oppressing the majority of the world's population, which is completely contradictory to your goal. World peace is unattainable as long as life itself exists. Humans, animals, or whatever else you can think of all need to fight to survive.

Bigg_Boi

That's a very ignorant opening post. Religion regarding the supernatural is not the problem. it's human beings who are the problem. They will always find something to kill and die for, whether it be god, money, power, family, land, ideas...those things can all be at the center of a religion, because human beings make them so.

There will never be world peace as long as human nature exists.

Religion is not the problem, stupid humans are.

In a perfect world, religions should be able to co-exist with each other, but fanatics ruin it. This is why religion needs to be eradicated, or reduced down to little cults. I feel that, at this point, it's just holding us back.

P.S. I'm not saying God doesn't exist or whatever.

angry-hornets

In my opinion, it is not religion that is the problem. It is the bad decisions people make. It just so happens people use religion as a means to an end. If there was no religion, do you seriously believe people wouldn't come up with some other reason or excuse? I believe there would be another reason or excuse to have a war or to kill if there was no religion. Doing away with religion would in no way make anything better in my opinion.

Religion is not holding anything back. Some people do, but religion is not.

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"]

In a perfect world, religions should be able to co-exist with each other, but fanatics ruin it. This is why religion needs to be eradicated, or reduced down to little cults. I feel that, at this point, it's just holding us back.

P.S. I'm not saying God doesn't exist or whatever.

stepnkev

In my opinion, it is not religion that is the problem. It is the bad decisions people make. It just so happens people use religion as a means to an end. If there was no religion, do you seriously believe people wouldn't come up with some other reason or excuse? I believe there would be another reason or excuse to have a war or to kill if there was no religion. Doing away with religion would in no way make anything better in my opinion.

Religion is not holding anything back. Some people do, but religion is not.

[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]

And your answer involves exterminating or otherwise oppressing the majority of the world's population, which is completely contradictory to your goal. World peace is unattainable as long as life itself exists. Humans, animals, or whatever else you can think of all need to fight to survive.

angry-hornets

Fundamentally, you religiously follow the lack of religion, and you are willing to eradicate another group of people in order to achieve that goal.....

So, no...you are indeed no better than those problematic "religious" people.

That's a very ignorant opening post. Religion regarding the supernatural is not the problem. it's human beings who are the problem. They will always find something to kill and die for, whether it be god, money, power, family, land, ideas...those things can all be at the center of a religion, because human beings make them so.

There will never be world peace as long as human nature exists.

Mark_the_Lie

Even without religion world peace is not possible.

There is always something to fight about.

[QUOTE="Mark_the_Lie"]

That's a very ignorant opening post. Religion regarding the supernatural is not the problem. it's human beings who are the problem. They will always find something to kill and die for, whether it be god, money, power, family, land, ideas...those things can all be at the center of a religion, because human beings make them so.

There will never be world peace as long as human nature exists.

angry-hornets

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"][QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]

And your answer involves exterminating or otherwise oppressing the majority of the world's population, which is completely contradictory to your goal. World peace is unattainable as long as life itself exists. Humans, animals, or whatever else you can think of all need to fight to survive.

Mark_the_Lie

Fundamentally, you religiously follow the lack of religion, and you are willing to eradicate another group of people in order to achieve that goal.....

So, no...you are indeed no better than those problematic "religious" people.

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"][QUOTE="Mark_the_Lie"]

That's a very ignorant opening post. Religion regarding the supernatural is not the problem. it's human beings who are the problem. They will always find something to kill and die for, whether it be god, money, power, family, land, ideas...those things can all be at the center of a religion, because human beings make them so.

There will never be world peace as long as human nature exists.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="angry-hornets"]Yeah, but take out all the heinous things in the past that were done in the name of religion, and you save a lot of lives. I'm not saying ridding the world of religion would fix everything, but the world would be a bit better. Why let it continue to ruin lives and kill people just because people are going to die anyway?angry-hornets

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"]

In a perfect world, religions should be able to co-exist with each other, but fanatics ruin it. This is why religion needs to be eradicated, or reduced down to little cults. I feel that, at this point, it's just holding us back.

P.S. I'm not saying God doesn't exist or whatever.

stepnkev

In my opinion, it is not religion that is the problem. It is the bad decisions people make. It just so happens people use religion as a means to an end. If there was no religion, do you seriously believe people wouldn't come up with some other reason or excuse? I believe there would be another reason or excuse to have a war or to kill if there was no religion. Doing away with religion would in no way make anything better in my opinion.

Religion is not holding anything back. Some people do, but religion is not.

When there's nothing to fight for, then war would cease and there will be peace.

Exactly how to make it in certain ways so there's nothing to fight for is the question.

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No. Then you have a different excuse for the heinous acts.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="angry-hornets"]So you think 9/11 would have still happened regardless? Sorry, I just don't agree with you there.angry-hornets

plain and simple no

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes. Considering they are unhappy with US foreign policy.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="angry-hornets"]You know the entire reason why they hate us is all in the name of religion, right? angry-hornets

It's not obtainable, religion existing or otherwise.

only if religion adopts a trend of tolerance. Actually, most religious folks are tolerant. They'd need to be accepting of other's beliefs.

this would require a huge, huge change in their style though lol. You'd essentially have to rewrite every text, eradicate the old fundamentalists that resist change, and convince the world you dont think non-members go to hell.

So, maybe in a hundred generations, sure.

Sorry, but you're just wrong. Our dollar bill says "In God We Trust" for crying out loud. If you don't think the core of this country is rooted in Christianity, then I don't know what to tell you. We are not officially recognized as a christian nation, but it is how to world sees us. It's also what most of us base our values on. And again, you're wrong. Osama bin Laden himself declared that this was a holy war. angry-hornets

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"]Sorry, but you're just wrong. Our dollar bill says "In God We Trust" for crying out loud. If you don't think the core of this country is rooted in Christianity, then I don't know what to tell you. We are not officially recognized as a christian nation, but it is how to world sees us. It's also what most of us base our values on. And again, you're wrong. Osama bin Laden himself declared that this was a holy war. LJS9502_basic

Okay, so they people who suicided into us didn't think they were going to be rewarded with a thousand virgins after death. My bad, you're right -- religion had nothing to do with it. :|angry-hornets

World peace is not obtainable at all.. whether religion exists or not. SO, I don't really get this question.. it seems to suggest that either religion is helping towards that or pushing us away from it... which isnt' true at all.

Religion is irrelevant to world peace.

Religion is irrelevant to world peace.

supa_badman

so sorry, but youre wrong. Do you study history at all?

I mean, yes, we can achieve peace and have religion.

but religion has been the source of so much past and current conflict for centuries.

So I suppose youre half-right, actually lol

[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

Religion is irrelevant to world peace.

so sorry, but youre wrong. Do you study history at all?

I mean, yes, we can achieve peace and have religion.

but religion has been the source of so much past and current conflict for centuries.

So I suppose youre half-right, actually lol

[QUOTE="angry-hornets"]Okay, so they people who suicided into us didn't think they were going to be rewarded with a thousand virgins after death. My bad, you're right -- religion had nothing to do with it. :|LJS9502_basic

Okay, you're all off track here.. Look at the world around you.. Nature itself is not peaceful. It's full of acts of violence.. animals kill other animals.. IT's just the way things are. It has nothing to do with religion.

Whatever! I'm done with this. Sorry I even opened this topic.angry-hornets

The only way for this world to achieve peace is for a dominant group to committ a genocide of unprecedented terror and savagery on its enemies. Even after this, world peace wouldn't last long as new tensions and hostility are born.

It'll never happen, we'll all be different..

[...] but fanatics ruin it. This is why religion needs to be eradicated, or reduced down to little cults. I feel that, at this point, it's just holding us back.angry-hornets