Israel launches ground invasion of Gaza...again

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/israels-ground-invasion-of-gaza-live-updates

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/israel-launches-gaza-ground-invasion-2014717192054899505.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28359582

another genocide in Palestine underway...

May those who caused this burn in hell. Alongside anyone who says Israel has the right to kill 270 people in defense. This isn't even the militia death toll you damned people. These are all civilians for God's sake...

I hope gaza ali stays safe.

another war where Religion is center of a attention.

This isn't genocide. And using hyperbole like that only makes matters worse.

What the **** did you think was going to happen? If the bear keeps getting poked eventually he's going to get pissed off and lash out.

It's an analogy, you moron. If you kept repeatedly getting kicked you would attempt to stop the attacker.

That is the entire palestinian death toll. some of them are civilians and some are militants.

It's unknown what the ratio is exactly

also ,lol,

Israel has a right to kill more than 270 people in self defence

Guess launching those rockets into Israel during a cease fire wasn't such a bright idea....

Just tell them to leave GazaAli alone.

is it really about the amount that they are allowed to kill? It's about who they're killing.

Lets hope this ends with Israel with complete control of Gaza and no ceasefire.

This should have been done two years ago but nope. Some bs ceasefire instead.

It's not about that either.....war is not pretty. Never was....never will be. If they care about their people then maybe they will stop shelling into Israel.

Considering the build of the Hamas military wing, the purposeful dissemination of militant infrastructure and 'bases' in civilian areas of residency, and the diplomatic conduct of Hamas in the face of the arab league's ceasefire proposals- It would be easy to claim Israel has an obligation to operate in a way that would also, inevitably, lead to civilian casualties

If the result of all this is a renewed Israeli control of the Gaza strip, which brings an end of these cyclical rounds of violence- it is, also, to the benefit of both Israelis and Gazans.

you can't think that Israel would overtake Gaza without tens of thousands dead at least

I could see caring about the "innocent" citizens if they were actually innocent. But let's face it, most of those "innocent" citizens are hamas sympathizers that would rather help Hamas than to help Israel remove Hamas to make it a safer area. So I don't really feel too much sympathy for those Innocent citizens. The true innocent citizens are the ones actually leaving.

That's not what he said......

inb4 ban

They've already been at war for over 2000 years. I'm sure it's bound to end soon

And rockets sent into Israel are love letters amirite?

that's some convenient misinformation and propaganda

A joke is "propaganda"? Okay man.

they've already been at war 2000 years, there's nothing we can do, its an ancient conflict, leave it alone

guess who wins from the maintenance of the status quo?

First off this thread is about Israel and Gaza. Stick to the subject. If you want to discuss something else create a thread. Second if you are an aggressor then what happens is your fault. Just because Israel is better at using equipment does not the other side is working with the legal concept of clean hands. They are not. If someone was firing into your property I'm pretty sure you would do what you could to defend yourself/family. So don't give me that BS that because the casualties are not mounting that's it's okay to keep trying until they are.

If Israel is attacked and they retaliate....I put the blame on the attacker. Tell me why did we not hear an outcry from you when Israel was getting shelled during the ceasefire? Which they did NOT retaliate during that time? Sorry but people and countries are responsible for their actions. And an act of violence/aggression/war gets no sympathy from me when they suffer for it.

I personally do not expect Gaza to be taken over, its not a matter of couldn't happen (it can happen, but Gaza would get turned into a football field in the process, same as Beirut in 82), but its a pain. besides the civilian casualties, there are big challenges to fighting in an urban setting, where the advantages of tanks and armored vehicles isn't as great. After which you get a bunch of issues of who actually runs the place.

I expect there to be something similar to cast lead, an operation reaching the outskirts of Gaza city, but no more than that. Of course I could be wrong, who knows what conclusion Netanyahu and Ayalon in particular came to during government meetings. Seriously Hamas should have accepted that Egyptian ceasefire , though I hear there is a generational split and ideological battles inside the organization itself

You do know the Palestinians put HAMAS in power in Palestine...right? If not then we shouldn't be discussing this because ignorance doesn't make for an interesting time.

Anyway......part of the reason for the casualties is also HAMAS' fault due to how they hide in with civilians.

The land has not be Palestinian long enough for a treaty to be worked out at this point if they wanted to do so. Anyway depending on what side one is on.....one can claim ownership of the land. That part of the equation should be over. It is what it is now and the most logical thing to do is work on peace. Getting hung over the past impedes that.

@LJS9502_basic:

Yup. When you blatantly ignore a cease fire this is what you get. I have no sympathy for them.

Don't be such a hypocrite. Why no call for Palestine to stop doing what they are doing? Damn double standards.

Cause if Palestine stopped what they're doing Israel would stop as well and then everyone would have to find something else to whine about..

its dangerous to label any action by fatah, hamas, gaza, as "palestine" doing something. Palestine is not a state or a collection of groups working in concert

That's not what I said at all. You may agree with what I said, but I don't agree with what you said.

Agreed

Not a word from gaza ali for past couple of days :(

he posted yesterday

Oh, Thank goodness.

@AmazonTreeBoa: I think he's trolling you.

Hamas is a Palestinian Sunni Islamic organization, with an associated military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, in the Palestinian territories.

After reading that I'm not sure I can agree with you....