It was wrong to make same gender marriage legal

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#1 Sign-Number-Two
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I think homosexuality should have never become legal totally, but that's more like a personal opinion and I can't defend it much especially with this gimmicky and hypocritical but popular motto " Free Speech . " I mean everyone would tell me every person in the world has the rights to live the way he wants and I can't say anything, can I ?

But think about gay marriage, People of the same gender marry with each other and legally form a family, but a family will only reach happiness and it's goals when there is ONE woman and ONE man in it, no other way around. But in g@y families, when there are two people of the same gender , there won't be no balance in the family anymore. I mean, men and women have different responsibilities , duties and capabilities and mixture of these different aspects will form a happy and flourish family.

Now, all of the things said above are things that have influence on homosexuals who marry and are not anyone else's business, that's true, but I am talking about the main aspect of the family, breeding and raising children. Every children has the rights to have a father and a mother, but homosexuals who marry have the rights to have children by ways like coparenting, adoption, donor insemination, and surrogacy.

Now think about the children who are raised in such families, seeing that other normal people have a mother and father, but instead they have two mother or two fathers is just a nightmare. It gives them a feeling that they are some kind of a freak or mutant. It even can give them psychological illnesses ( Like the kid I know and he is the main reason for me to make this thread) .

I think if you want to become a homosexual, you have to take some penalties, one of them should be lack of permission to raise or breed a kid, because you are ruining another person's life for good.



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I really don't think I used my humor at all.
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]lold.Sign-Number-Two
I really don't think I used my humor at all.

im sure youre right and the humor represented in the op is completely involuntary
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[QUOTE="Sign-Number-Two"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]lold.BiancaDK
I really don't think I used my humor at all.

im sure youre right and the humor represented in the op is completely involuntary

I think I made a pretty good point here. Imagine instead of having a mother and a father, You had two fathers, how would you feel?

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I think I made a pretty good point here. Imagine instead of having a mother and a father, You had two fathers, how would you feel?

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based on contemporary sociological statistical evidence; as good or better than if i had a mum and a pop

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I have always supported gay`s right to marriage. I just dont see why they would get married in an institution who has prosecuted, hunted and oppressed them for hundreds of years, it doesnt sound like a good place to declare your love. Thats the only thing I think is a bit F`ed about that matter.

I have supported gay marriage but been on the fence on children being raised by two parents of the same gender. I can see many resulting consequences from it, both good and bad. I guess time will show me if it could work or not. I will probably make up my mind when I have some information on the result of same sex parenting.

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[QUOTE="Sign-Number-Two"]I think I made a pretty good point here. Imagine instead of having a mother and a father, You had two fathers, how would you feel?

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based on contemporary sociological statistical evidence; as good or better than if i had a mum and a pop

I think you are saying this only to make me sound like a loser. But anyway, you might say this now, but I'm sure you didn't have the same opinion when you were an infant and you even didn't know what contemporary sociological statistical evidences are.
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This won't end well. Anyway I don't really care what people do as long as it doesn't involve hurting others. Two people of the same sex want to enter into the bottomless pit of marriage and reap the benefits of misery.....go for it.
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I lol'd at the start. But as for children, I think that adoption is fine (any kind of parent is better than none) as for surrogacy and donor insemination I disagree with that.
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I think you are saying this only to make me sound like a loser. But anyway, you might say this now, but I'm sure you didn't have the same opinion when you were an infant and you even didn't know what contemporary sociological statistical evidences are. Sign-Number-Two

when i was an infant i also drank ajax universal cleaning agent thinking it was lemonade

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I lol'd at the start. But as for children, I think that adoption is fine (any kind of parent is better than none) as for surrogacy and donor insemination I disagree with that.Overlord93
I would not say any kind of parent is better than none. What about an abusive parent? And note: my answer has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of parents. But parents in general.
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not to mention gays are statistically more likely to be cannibals then straight people.
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This won't end well. Anyway I don't really care what people do as long as it doesn't involve hurting others. Two people of the same sex want to enter into the bottomless pit of marriage and reap the benefits of misery.....go for it.LJS9502_basic
Well, the problem is, it will effect other people, children who are raised in such families have great potential to become a criminal or hurt society in the future, because just as Toadso said, they don't have good place to declare their love and it might completely destroy the process of their upbringing
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Uhm, okay....can't say much yet since my head hurt reading the long text..:|

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]This won't end well. Anyway I don't really care what people do as long as it doesn't involve hurting others. Two people of the same sex want to enter into the bottomless pit of marriage and reap the benefits of misery.....go for it.Sign-Number-Two
Well, the problem is, it will effect other people, children who are raised in such families have great potential to become a criminal or hurt society in the future, because just as Toadso said, they don't have good place to declare their love and it might completely destroy the process of their upbringing

Children who are raised around people that love them....do well generally. Children who are raised absent that.....may have some issues. But I wouldn't generalize even that.
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I would not say any kind of parent is better than none. What about an abusive parent?LJS9502_basic
Very true. And its hard to say, but personally, as creepy and weird as it would feel, I would rather have 2 dads than be in a care home. But bringing life into the world is something that I feel should be exclusive to hetrosexual couples. (imho)
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Here we go again with these "undercover hate a.k.a. homophobia" issues. I'm sure you've done the research needed to back up this abuse of gimmicky and hypocritical free speech, TC.
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Well, the problem is, it will effect other people, children who are raised in such families have great potential to become a criminal or hurt society in the future, because just as Toadso said, they don't have good place to declare their love and it might completely destroy the process of their upbringingSign-Number-Two

"Results of social science research have failed to confirm any of these concerns about children of lesbian and gay parents (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999). Research suggests that sexual identities (including gender identity, gender-role behavior, and sexual orientation) develop in much the same ways among children of lesbian mothers as they do among children of heterosexual parents (Patterson, 2004a). Studies of other aspects of personal development (including personality, self-concept, and conduct) similarly reveal few differences between children of lesbian mothers and children of heterosexual parents (Perrin, 2002; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999). However, few data regarding these concerns are available for children of gay fathers (Patterson, 2004b). Evidence also suggests that children of lesbian and gay parents have normal social relationships with peers and adults (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). The picture that emerges from research is one of general engagement in social life with peers, parents, family members, and friends. Fears about children of lesbian or gay parents being sexually abused by adults, ostracized by peers, or isolated in single-sex lesbian or gay communities have received no scientific support. Overall, results of research suggest that the development, adjustment, and well-being of children with lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from that of children with heterosexual parents."

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I'm sure you've done the research needed to back up this abuse of gimmicky and hypocritical free speech, TC.Nude_Dude
Free speech is not gimmicky nor hypocritical. It's free speech even when we don't agree with what's said....or free speech doesn't exist.
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I disagree and I do not respect your opinion/rant, you make wild acquisitions without any logic or proof backing it up. And put it in your blog, this is more "your opinion" rather than a topic for discussion.
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I don't see why folks think that they need to be in other folk's business. Who cares what other folks do as long as it doesn't effect you? As for the children thing, the kids better be glad someone adopted them rather than not being adopted at all. Others might laugh, sure, but even if you were a child to a heterosexual family they will still find another reason to poke fun at you.
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Not one of your points is supported by evidence. Scientific literature has shown that homosexuals are not inherently inferior to heterosexual couples at parenting or, really, anything else. The only contradicting claims are made by organizations that have little to no relevant scientific expertise.

Since, however, you are such a caring and altruistic person, it would be in your very best interest to stop spreading negative propaganda about homosexuals. Psychological studies have revealed that the negative stigma associated with homosexuals has a detrimental effect on their health and well-being. Now, you wouldn't want to contribute to the derogatory treatment of gays by most cultures, would you?

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Not one of your points is supported by evidence. Scientific literature has shown that homosexuals are not inherently inferior to heterosexual couples at parenting or, really, anything else. The only contradicting claims are made by organizations that have little to no relevant scientific expertise.

Since, however, you are such a caring and altruistic person, it would be in your very best interest to stop spreading negative propaganda about homosexuals. Psychological studies have revealed that the negative stigma associated with homosexuals has a detrimental effect on their health and well-being. Now, you wouldn't want to contribute to the derogatory treatment of gays by most cultures, would you?

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Well, I always thought homosexuals don't care about anything. ( including the hatred towards them and the fact that people use phrases like homosexual or g@y as profanities. ) But if these kinds of bad propaganda has a really really bad effect , I try not to do it in front of them from now on. Because every time I see a homosexual, I criticize them a lot. ( Like the parents of the kid I talked about in OP. ) But it sounds like they don't care.

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Considering that your entire argument is not only offensive but also is based on premises that are provably false through countless numbers of studies, I'm gonna go ahead and close 'er up.