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Yeah that's why he moved to Mexico.
And on a site note...it doesn't really matter what anybody thinks. It was inside job and their plan was pulled off perfectly. The US economy is collapsing and soon everyone will beg the government for salvation. At that point, you're already dead.
it was an inside job
Here's an excellent interview on Larry King with Jesse Ventura... at least give it a chance.. he has some very interesting things to say...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRjmwKnz1G4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5mdwFLY4WQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNnUAr_DsM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk7nYA4--aU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq2iqGRxrdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzBb427tb9A
Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
it was an inside job
Here's an excellent interview on Larry King with Jesse Ventura... at least give it a chance.. he has some very interesting things to say...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRjmwKnz1G4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5mdwFLY4WQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNnUAr_DsM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk7nYA4--aU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq2iqGRxrdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzBb427tb9A
proctorsurf
Let me help you with the links.
pressing spacebar after the link usually help. Thanks anyways.
more and more celebs,politicians are voicing the truth and skeptics are having a hard time lying.
common reply:pop mechanics 911 article.(cough)
come on how much will you debunk.
areyoumad
They may very well be voicing the truth but the evidence may also be fabricated. We will not likely ever know.
Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Truth_Seekr
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Dracargen
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
Anyways, a number of CIA analyst, physicists & professors etc claim to the contrary of what the administration alleges. You'd figure they'd know what they're talking about considering their titles and what not. Do these men not know what they're talking about all of a sudden?
[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Truth_Seekr
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
I trust you have polling data for this remarkable claim? Because, seriously, the only people I've ever met who buy into this I am pleased to say are across the internet from me.[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Truth_Seekr
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
Anyways, a number of CIA analyst, physicists & professors etc claim to the contrary of what the administration alleges. You'd figure they'd know what they're talking about considering their titles and what not. Do these men not know what they're talking about all of a sudden?
You're still wrong.
One-third of the nation believes 9/11 was an inside job, or was known about but not stopped. That leaves two-thirds who believe otherwise. Which is the majority?
And it happens that most (if not all) of these CIA physicists and professors were FORMER CIA officials. . .the CIA itself does not take the stance that 9/11 was an inside job, and I think they have more physicists and professors currently working for them than there are former officials who disagree.:roll:
I loved him as my governor. A lot of conservatives didnt care for him but he did a lot for public transportation and schools in minnesota while he was in office. He was a good guy.
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Dracargen
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
Anyways, a number of CIA analyst, physicists & professors etc claim to the contrary of what the administration alleges. You'd figure they'd know what they're talking about considering their titles and what not. Do these men not know what they're talking about all of a sudden?
You're still wrong.
One-third of the nation believes 9/11 was an inside job, or was known about but not stopped. That leaves two-thirds who believe otherwise. Which is the majority?
And it happens that most (if not all) of these CIA physicists and professors were FORMER CIA officials. . .the CIA itself does not take the stance that 9/11 was an inside job, and I think they have more physicists and professors currently working for them than there are former officials who disagree.:roll:
God dammit just accept drugs are good and it was the goverment who did 9/11![QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
xaos
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
I trust you have polling data for this remarkable claim? Because, seriously, the only people I've ever met who buy into this I am pleased to say are across the internet from me.Polling data. Of course not. You'd just denounce any data I'd grab as is evident already.
Look son, I go by what I experience. If I'm talking to my friend or a random stranger about the subject at a library or on the Metra, and some other passengers hear me and my claims and come closer to throw their two cents on what I say and how they've been thinking the same, that's more then enough data. Hearing this country's citizens BOOing Bush instead of cheering him on is enough data. Celebs speaking their mind about how they find it fishy and suspicious is enough data to allow me to claim that most of the nation doesn't believe the administration. Perhaps for your benefit, I should say 50%? I don't know. Either way, that's where my data comes from. Not just the internet.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Truth_Seekr
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
I trust you have polling data for this remarkable claim? Because, seriously, the only people I've ever met who buy into this I am pleased to say are across the internet from me.Polling data. Of course not. You'd just denounce anything data I'd grab as is evident already. Look son, I go by what I experience. If I'm talking to my friend or a random stranger about the subject at a library or on the Metra, and some other passengers hear me and my claims and come closer to throw their two cents on what I say and how they've been thinking the same, than that's enough data. Hearing this country's citizens BOOing Bush instead of cheering him on is enough data. Celebs speaking their mind about how they find it fishy and suspicious is enough data to allow me to claim that most of the nation doesn't believe the administration. Perhaps for your benefit, I should say 50%? I don't know. Either way, that's where my data comes from. Not just the internet.
Well, your personal experience does not reflect the majority, and to assume so is a logical fallacy.;)
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
See what I did? I used an actual fact to prove my claim, rather than go "well, it's what I feel!"
So does Alvin Ventura, a hobo who begs for candy and sponges and lives under a bridge in Orlando.:|
Doesn't mean his opinion is right.
Dracargen
is yours though?
[QUOTE="xaos"]I trust you have polling data for this remarkable claim? Because, seriously, the only people I've ever met who buy into this I am pleased to say are across the internet from me.Truth_Seekr
Polling data. Of course not. You'd just denounce any data I'd grab as is evident already.
Look son, I go by what I experience. If I'm talking to my friend or a random stranger about the subject at a library or on the Metra, and some other passengers hear me and my claims and come closer to throw their two cents on what I say and how they've been thinking the same, that's more then enough data. Hearing this country's citizens BOOing Bush instead of cheering him on is enough data. Celebs speaking their mind about how they find it fishy and suspicious is enough data to allow me to claim that most of the nation doesn't believe the administration. Perhaps for your benefit, I should say 50%? I don't know. Either way, that's where my data comes from. Not just the internet.
So your answer to my question is no then?[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Dracargen
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
Anyways, a number of CIA analyst, physicists & professors etc claim to the contrary of what the administration alleges. You'd figure they'd know what they're talking about considering their titles and what not. Do these men not know what they're talking about all of a sudden?
You're still wrong.
One-third of the nation believes 9/11 was an inside job, or was known about but not stopped. That leaves two-thirds who believe otherwise. Which is the majority?
And it happens that most (if not all) of these CIA physicists and professors were FORMER CIA officials. . .the CIA itself does not take the stance that 9/11 was an inside job, and I think they have more physicists and professors currently working for them than there are former officials who disagree.:roll:
Stephen Jones - Jeff King - etc., and more were at one time CIA officials? I highly doubt that. I think you got my wording mixed up.
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Jesse "The Body" Ventura
I forgot about him. It's good to hear more celebs actually saying what most of the nation now believes. Only a certain few, like certain posters here at GameSpot and abroad, will simply denounce his claims and says he's just another radical who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Dracargen
:lol:
And am I supposed to listen to a former wrestler over the physicists who DO know what they are talking about?
Perhaps I should've said,....."what most of the nation now ASSUMES" .... There. Is that better for you my lil puppy?
I trust you have polling data for this remarkable claim? Because, seriously, the only people I've ever met who buy into this I am pleased to say are across the internet from me.Polling data. Of course not. You'd just denounce anything data I'd grab as is evident already. Look son, I go by what I experience. If I'm talking to my friend or a random stranger about the subject at a library or on the Metra, and some other passengers hear me and my claims and come closer to throw their two cents on what I say and how they've been thinking the same, than that's enough data. Hearing this country's citizens BOOing Bush instead of cheering him on is enough data. Celebs speaking their mind about how they find it fishy and suspicious is enough data to allow me to claim that most of the nation doesn't believe the administration. Perhaps for your benefit, I should say 50%? I don't know. Either way, that's where my data comes from. Not just the internet.
Well, your personal experience does not reflect the majority, and to assume so is a logical fallacy.;)
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
See what I did? I used an actual fact to prove my claim, rather than go "well, it's what I feel!"
As did I.
Stephen Jones - Jeff King - etc., and more were at one time CIA officials? I highly doubt that. I think you got my wording mixed up.
Truth_Seekr
Steven Jones?:lol: Steven Jones believes he has proof that Jesus Christ came to the Americas two thousand years ago!:lol:
He's the guy who supposedly found thermite in the wreckage. Problem: He found enough thermite to burn a small hole into the engine of a small car. Now, if he had found at least 60 tons of thermite, then we would have very good reason to suspect that the towers were tampered with.:roll:
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="xaos"]I trust you have polling data for this remarkable claim? Because, seriously, the only people I've ever met who buy into this I am pleased to say are across the internet from me.xaos
Polling data. Of course not. You'd just denounce any data I'd grab as is evident already.
Look son, I go by what I experience. If I'm talking to my friend or a random stranger about the subject at a library or on the Metra, and some other passengers hear me and my claims and come closer to throw their two cents on what I say and how they've been thinking the same, that's more then enough data. Hearing this country's citizens BOOing Bush instead of cheering him on is enough data. Celebs speaking their mind about how they find it fishy and suspicious is enough data to allow me to claim that most of the nation doesn't believe the administration. Perhaps for your benefit, I should say 50%? I don't know. Either way, that's where my data comes from. Not just the internet.
So your answer to my question is no then?Well if you can't figure it out for yourself with what I said, then I'll say Yes. Yes I have some links that claim what I say the same way there are polls that claim to the contrary, but then I wonder if these polls are just made up or real opinions. There's always going to be another poll that says otherwise. Just look at how many want his impeachment. It's irrelevant to want that IMO since his term is damn near over with, but the hate or whatever you want to call it is there and evident to see.
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Stephen Jones - Jeff King - etc., and more were at one time CIA officials? I highly doubt that. I think you got my wording mixed up.
Dracargen
Steven Jones?:lol: Steven Jones believes he has proof that Jesus Christ came to the Americas two thousand years ago!:lol:
He's the guy who supposedly found thermite in the wreckage. Problem: He found enough thermite to burn a small hole into the engine of a small car. Now, if he had found at least 60 tons of thermite, then we would have very good reason to suspect that the towers were tampered with.:roll:
This is exactly why it's useless to name any source, whether it's a person - radio show - internet site - tv broadcast they'll get denounced no matter what. No matter how much smarter he is than you, no matter how much more credentials he and Jeff King and the like have over you, no matter their titles,...all of a sudden, they're nutcases that need to be dealt with. I just don't get it. People post vids from YouTube about the claims, not credible..... but have them post vids denouncing the theories and all of a sudden YouTube etc. is valid once again.
[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Stephen Jones - Jeff King - etc., and more were at one time CIA officials? I highly doubt that. I think you got my wording mixed up.
Truth_Seekr
Steven Jones?:lol: Steven Jones believes he has proof that Jesus Christ came to the Americas two thousand years ago!:lol:
He's the guy who supposedly found thermite in the wreckage. Problem: He found enough thermite to burn a small hole into the engine of a small car. Now, if he had found at least 60 tons of thermite, then we would have very good reason to suspect that the towers were tampered with.:roll:
This is exactly why it's useless to name any source, whether it's a person - radio show - internet site - tv broadcast they'll get denounced no matter what. No matter how much smarter he is than you, no matter how much more credentials he and Jeff King and the like have over you, no matter their titles,...all of a sudden, they're nutcases that need to be dealt with. I just don't get it. People post vids from YouTube about the claims, not credible..... but have them post vids denouncing the theories and all of a sudden YouTube etc. is valid once again.
So you're a Mormon then?
Please.:roll: Whining about how nobody will believe nutjobs like Steven Jones won't help your case. By the way, real experts have dissected Jones' claims and he is nothing but a liar.
As for Jeff King, I can find NOTHING on him.
People don't denounce conspiracy theorists: FACTS do. And then the conspiracy theorists complain about how the people agree with the facts rather than their nonsense while all at the same time pretending to be truth seekers when in fact they are just pissed off at the government for existing.
Okay, so if a celeb told you that the Earth is 6,000 - 10,000 years old, and that there's a vast conspiracy by the neo-darwinists to hide that, you'd take their word for it?Zagrius
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]Stephen Jones - Jeff King - etc., and more were at one time CIA officials? I highly doubt that. I think you got my wording mixed up.
Dracargen
Steven Jones?:lol: Steven Jones believes he has proof that Jesus Christ came to the Americas two thousand years ago!:lol:
He's the guy who supposedly found thermite in the wreckage. Problem: He found enough thermite to burn a small hole into the engine of a small car. Now, if he had found at least 60 tons of thermite, then we would have very good reason to suspect that the towers were tampered with.:roll:
This is exactly why it's useless to name any source, whether it's a person - radio show - internet site - tv broadcast they'll get denounced no matter what. No matter how much smarter he is than you, no matter how much more credentials he and Jeff King and the like have over you, no matter their titles,...all of a sudden, they're nutcases that need to be dealt with. I just don't get it. People post vids from YouTube about the claims, not credible..... but have them post vids denouncing the theories and all of a sudden YouTube etc. is valid once again.
So you're a Mormon then?
Please.:roll: Whining about how nobody will believe nutjobs like Steven Jones won't help your case. By the way, real experts have dissected Jones' claims and he is nothing but a liar.
As for Jeff King, I can find NOTHING on him.
People don't denounce conspiracy theorists: FACTS do. And then the conspiracy theorists complain about how the people agree with the facts rather than their nonsense while all at the same time pretending to be truth seekers when in fact they are just pissed off at the government for existing.
I think you've seen me enough to know I don't affiliate myself with any religion. Where you got that stupid idea, hell if I know...
In any event, anyone can make a website and discredit anyone's claims. I won't be posting links cause this'll just be a game of Link this, Link that, Link over here n there. Our nonsense is facts to others and lies to the other half. Who's to say what is what. If you want to call me a nut or Jones for what we say,. then that means all the celebs who have came out are nutcases as well, all the politicians who come out to say the same, that 9-11 was an inside job are all loony and void of their word? Come on now!!
You can go the whole time ignoring the other skyscrapers all over the world that have burned for much longer and never collapsed. You can ignore all you want the various professionals with their claims about what went down with 9-11. However, you can't ignore the suspicious activities of our administration during the event and especially after.
I think you've seen me enough to know I don't affiliate myself with any religion. Where you got that stupid idea, hell if I know...
You obviously believe everything Steven Jones says because "he's more qualified." He believes he has evidence of Christ in the Americas. As a truth-seeker, you should be following the evidence, shouldn't you?;)
In any event, anyone can make a website and discredit anyone's claims. I won't be posting links cause this'll just be a game of Link this, Link that, Link over here n there. Our nonsense is facts to others and lies to the other half. Who's to say what is what. If you want to call me a nut or Jones for what we say,. then that means all the celebs who have came out are nutcases as well, all the politicians who come out to say the same, that 9-11 was an inside job are all loony and void of their word? Come on now!!
Niether celebreties nor politicians are qualified to make any official statement regarding 9/11, so I could not care less abouyt their opinions. Physicists, engineers, and more have said it is not a conspiracy, so I DO care about their opinions. How many celebs and politicians have said "No, it isn't a conspiracy"?
You can go the whole time ignoring the other skyscrapers all over the world that have burned for much longer and never collapsed. You can ignore all you want the various professionals with their claims about what went down with 9-11. However, you can't ignore the suspicious activities of our administration during the event and especially after.
I never said the WTC towers weren't poorly designed.:| They were, and that is why they collapsed faster (gee, makes sense doesn't it?:roll: )
The "suspicious activities"? What, two men quit and their lives were saved but the other two thousand were killed therefore it's a conspiracy? They withheld a video from the public under the obviously false excuse that "it's a federal investigation"?:roll:
Truth_Seekr
[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]I think you've seen me enough to know I don't affiliate myself with any religion. Where you got that stupid idea, hell if I know...
In any event, anyone can make a website and discredit anyone's claims. I won't be posting links cause this'll just be a game of Link this, Link that, Link over here n there. Our nonsense is facts to others and lies to the other half. Who's to say what is what. If you want to call me a nut or Jones for what we say,. then that means all the celebs who have came out are nutcases as well, all the politicians who come out to say the same, that 9-11 was an inside job are all loony and void of their word? Come on now!!
You can go the whole time ignoring the other skyscrapers all over the world that have burned for much longer and never collapsed. You can ignore all you want the various professionals with their claims about what went down with 9-11. However, you can't ignore the suspicious activities of our administration during the event and especially after.
Dracargen
You obviously believe everything Steven Jones says because "he's more qualified." He believes he has evidence of Christ in the Americas. As a truth-seeker, you should be following the evidence, shouldn't you?;)
Niether celebreties nor politicians are qualified to make any official statement regarding 9/11, so I could not care less abouyt their opinions. Physicists, engineers, and more have said it is not a conspiracy, so I DO care about their opinions. How many celebs and politicians have said "No, it isn't a conspiracy"?
I never said the WTC towers weren't poorly designed.:| They were, and that is why they collapsed faster (gee, makes sense doesn't it?:roll: )
The "suspicious activities"? What, two men quit and their lives were saved but the other two thousand were killed therefore it's a conspiracy? They withheld a video from the public under the obviously false excuse that "it's a federal investigation"?:roll:
If you wanna stay stuck on this Stephen Jones chracter, by all means, go right ahead. I don't believe everything he says. I haven't heard everything he's said, but he certainly makes a lot more sense than the "officials reports" we've been given. So how that ties into me being a mormon, I know not. You're just being stupid right there.
People with higher positions in life are more likely to be paid attention to from onlookers rather than me, a nobody. You don't care about what politicians have to say and think they're not qualified enough to comment on the event? I guess that would mean our current president isn't qualified to run this country. I mean if he, posing as a politician or any other politician for that matter, isn't qualified to comment on the event, then why the hell would you vote him in? Are you listening to yourself?
I find it rather hard to believe that a third world country has better engineers and physicists than America, the top leading country in the world, and can build better buildings/skyscrapers that withstand fires longer than those of 9-11. The Twin Towers were supposedly overly designed to withstand Hurricanes, Bombs, multiple impacts of Jetliners etc., but coincidentially on 9-11 all those preventive measures went to waste because of a lil jet fuel that burnt away in the fireball that ensued following both impacts.
Come on guy!!!
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