Jury begins deliberating in Casey Anthony case. Predict a verdict.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-casey-anthony-deliberations-20110704,0,6489088.story?track=rss

At this point, I'm going to say that she'll be convincted of a lesser murder charge. I don't think the jury will go as far as first degree, but I don't think there is any way that she walks. That she in some way killed the child is the only thing that really makes sense. The drowning theory is not a reasonable alternative considering the cirumstances.

First degree murder. That's what I think.

Lesser murder and lesser chargers. Granted, I haven't been keeping up with the whole case, but I don't see how they can find her guilty of first degree with what I've seen. That being said though, there's no way I can see her going away scott free either.

Guilty of first degree murder. The amount of evidence against her is insane.

Guilty of first degree murder. The amount of evidence against her is insane.

DroidPhysX

It's not gonna be first degree.

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Guilty of first degree murder. The amount of evidence against her is insane.

BMD004

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Guilty of first degree murder. The amount of evidence against her is insane.

Ace6301

I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WmWhzFLgyM

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

DJ419

And even the prosecution says that a body was only in the trunk for a short period of time... 3 to 5 days... not a month.

I specifically remember hearing an expert testifying that they found large amounts of chloroform in the air of the trunk that were not consistent with decomposition. You must have missed something.

Not guilty.

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I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

And even the prosecution says that a body was only in the trunk for a short period of time... 3 to 5 days... not a month.

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[QUOTE="DJ419"]

I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

squitsquat

And even the prosecution says that a body was only in the trunk for a short period of time... 3 to 5 days... not a month.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videobeta/?watchCat=1f9c86f3-9038-4144-b367-e59d339e9e50

Go to page 8 of 15, the first video is of an expert who handled samples taken from the supposed car that held Caylee's body. He said they found chloroform levels higher than they have ever seen. The negative results you are reffering to were from toxicology reports of the body. All that was left of the body was bone and hair, there were no blood or tissue samples left on the corpse to test. Hair samples would only have tested positive if the choloform was being given to Caylee over a long period of time. People who have their hair tested for drugs is because they have gone long enough without drugs so that a urine sample would be negative, since the drugs stay in the hair it would show up as a positive. I highly doubt bones would test positive for a drug that was only used once upon death. Bones take seven years before each cell is completely replaced naturally by the body.

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I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

BMD004

And even the prosecution says that a body was only in the trunk for a short period of time... 3 to 5 days... not a month.

I voted for the hung jury, 'cause I don't know anything about this case.

I voted that we hang the jury.SolidSnake35

I specifically remember hearing an expert testifying that they found large amounts of chloroform in the air of the trunk that were not consistent with decomposition. You must have missed something.

DJ419

An actual toxicologist tested the trunk and said the levels weren't high at all.

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[QUOTE="DJ419"]

I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

Ace6301

And even the prosecution says that a body was only in the trunk for a short period of time... 3 to 5 days... not a month.

Don't tell me I'm making stuff up. I'm responding to a post and then you jump in without even reading what I was responding to.

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[QUOTE="DJ419"]

I am not convinced that Casey outright smothered her daughter to death. It sounds like Casey was using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep and it went horribly wrong and resulted in her death. Assuming she did keep the body in the trunk of her car for a month, that to me sounds like this wasn't as planned out as one day she just decided to kill her daughter. I do believe Casey caused the death of Caylee, I'm just not convinced that it was first degree murder. This is such a weird case to make a definitive decision on. The duct tape around the mouth that was found on the corpse doesn't make sense at all when chloroform is the leading cause of death. I do predict that she will be found guilty of murder though. Watch this video I found the other day.

The last time I saw a face like that in a courtroom was when Ted Bundy was convicted of murder. What sane person makes a face like that in the middle of a trial?

Ace6301

And even the prosecution says that a body was only in the trunk for a short period of time... 3 to 5 days... not a month.

While I would like to see her go free. I'm gonna say Hung Jury.

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I specifically remember hearing an expert testifying that they found large amounts of chloroform in the air of the trunk that were not consistent with decomposition. You must have missed something.

BMD004

An actual toxicologist tested the trunk and said the levels weren't high at all.

So the person in the video I linked was not an expert in his field which was determining chemical levels of crime scenes even when both the prosecution and defense have to agree that the person is an expert in the field they claim to be in, in order for the person to testify as an expert? Give me a break, why would Baez bring in a professor to say that the chloroform levels in the car could have possibly been caused by the decomposition of the body when you say there were no chloroform levels found. Just because Caylee's bones and hair didn't yield a positive result on chloroform doesn't mean there was no chloroform.

She should be stoned to death....

Not guilty.

Silverbond

I hope she goes free just because of how annoyed I was by all the media coverage.majoras_wrath

Guilty of lesser murder charges at least. Could be first degree, but it is possible she just gets the lesser murder charges. There's no way she'll get less than that.

I'm sick of hearing about this stupid case, there are a lot more important things going on..

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I specifically remember hearing an expert testifying that they found large amounts of chloroform in the air of the trunk that were not consistent with decomposition. You must have missed something.

DJ419

An actual toxicologist tested the trunk and said the levels weren't high at all.

So the person in the video I linked was not an expert in his field which was determining chemical levels of crime scenes even when both the prosecution and defense have to agree that the person is an expert in the field they claim to be in, in order for the person to testify as an expert? Give me a break, why would Baez bring in a professor to say that the chloroform levels in the car could have possibly been caused by the decomposition of the body when you say there were no chloroform levels found. Just because Caylee's bones and hair didn't yield a positive result on chloroform doesn't mean there was no chloroform.

Michael Rickenbach, who is a Forensic Chemist Examiner for the FBI, is somebody better suited to answer these questions. He testified that there was only a "small amount of chloroform RESIDUE in the trunk". He said that the amount of chloroform found in the trunk is an amount consistant with the amount of residue commonly found in cleaning products.

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[QUOTE="BMD004"]Not true. One person who wasn't a toxicologist testified to that who used a brand new "air machine" that hasn't ever been used before in a case.

An actual toxicologist tested the trunk and said the levels weren't high at all.

BMD004

So the person in the video I linked was not an expert in his field which was determining chemical levels of crime scenes even when both the prosecution and defense have to agree that the person is an expert in the field they claim to be in, in order for the person to testify as an expert? Give me a break, why would Baez bring in a professor to say that the chloroform levels in the car could have possibly been caused by the decomposition of the body when you say there were no chloroform levels found. Just because Caylee's bones and hair didn't yield a positive result on chloroform doesn't mean there was no chloroform.

Michael Rickenbach, who is a Forensic Chemist Examiner for the FBI, is somebody better suited to answer these questions. He testified that there was only a "small amount of chloroform RESIDUE in the trunk". He said that the amount of chloroform found in the trunk is an amount consistant with the amount of residue commonly found in cleaning products.

If the glove doesn't fit,

You must aquit

I voted that we hang the jury.SolidSnake35

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So the person in the video I linked was not an expert in his field which was determining chemical levels of crime scenes even when both the prosecution and defense have to agree that the person is an expert in the field they claim to be in, in order for the person to testify as an expert? Give me a break, why would Baez bring in a professor to say that the chloroform levels in the car could have possibly been caused by the decomposition of the body when you say there were no chloroform levels found. Just because Caylee's bones and hair didn't yield a positive result on chloroform doesn't mean there was no chloroform.

BMD004

Michael Rickenbach, who is a Forensic Chemist Examiner for the FBI, is somebody better suited to answer these questions. He testified that there was only a "small amount of chloroform RESIDUE in the trunk". He said that the amount of chloroform found in the trunk is an amount consistant with the amount of residue commonly found in cleaning products.

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[QUOTE="BMD004"]You linked a video to Dr. Arpad Vass. He is an expert in Forensic Anthropology. He is NOT an expert about anything relating to chemicals like chloroform. He was the ONLY one to find "high levels of chloroform". He invented a brand new tool called the "electronic body sniffer" which has NEVER been used before in a case and it is very new. That is NOT reliable.

Michael Rickenbach, who is a Forensic Chemist Examiner for the FBI, is somebody better suited to answer these questions. He testified that there was only a "small amount of chloroform RESIDUE in the trunk". He said that the amount of chloroform found in the trunk is an amount consistant with the amount of residue commonly found in cleaning products.

Ace6301

She will be imprisoned for eternity in the Phantom Zone. :P

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="BMD004"]Plus, if you remember, Cindy Anthony testified that she cleaned the trunk and sprayed it with nearly a whole bottle of Fabreeze.

BMD004

First degree. I just don't see her getting a lesser sentence.

Honestly, it depends on what the jury is feeling like.

If they just want someone to blame they may convict her of all charges out of emotion. In other words, they want somebody to blame for the death of Caylee and Casey is the one that fits the bill.

If they go off of evidence alone they'll probably convict her of the lesser charges to include concealing the death. Which means at worst she'll spend a few more years behind bars and at best for her she may be released on time served.

From what I know about the case, while she's probably a dirtbag from the way she acted I doubt she just up and killed her daughter on purpose and at worse caused her death by neglect the same way those people who leave their kids in the car too long when it's hot outside. In my opinion (which means you don't have to agree since it's an opinion), she's guilty of being an idiot who didn't realise that her actions after her daughter died just made her look worse.

Also, she's screwed no matter what the verdict is. If she's found guilty she's going to die in prison whether it's sooner due to a death penalty or later due to a life sentence. If she's not guilty or she's found guilty of lesser charges so many people hate her right now that some vigilante is probably going to take matters in their own hands if they see her in the street and attack her.