Killing a baby =/= killing an adult

That is why I am for abortion. If a baby dies, it's not like many people spent years getting to know that person and getting attached to their unique personality. It's not like it was contributing to society like an adult does. NOTICE I am not saying killing a baby is okay, I just don't think someone should get more/same punishment for killing a baby than killing an adult.massiv-damage

So its ok if you die as long as someone in congress lives?

You wouldn't be saying that if you were the baby in the abortion.Aquat1cF1sh

You wouldn't be saying that if you were the baby in the abortion.Aquat1cF1sh

You wouldn't be saying totalitarianism is bad if you were the dictator.

I know, it's worse.SuperVegeta518

Please explain your reasoning.

You wouldn't be saying that if you were the baby in the abortion.Aquat1cF1sh

[QUOTE="Aquat1cF1sh"]You wouldn't be saying that if you were the baby in the abortion.massiv-damage

You wouldn't be saying totalitarianism is bad if you were the dictator.

baby =/= dictator.

If you were stupid enough to concieve a baby you dont want, you have no right killing an innocent life because you cant keep your underwear on. On the other hand, if its a rape situation, thats where things get complicated. I think THAT baby should be allowed to be born, but given away for adoption, but to be honest thats a really hard decision for a women and ive no right to say anything on it.bellsmye1

I agree with both your points, though not so much that you have no right to say anything about it.

When it comes to the anti-abortion argument... where do you draw the line? Wouldn't a woman menstruating be killing a possible child? Should we outlaw menstruation and masturbation because they kill potential children?

It should be a choice. People should be able to choose whether or not they want to abort their children. Especially in the cases of rape.foxhound_fox

Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When it comes to the anti-abortion argument... where do you draw the line? Wouldn't a woman menstruating be killing a possible child? Should we outlaw menstruation and masturbation because they kill potential children?

It should be a choice. People should be able to choose whether or not they want to abort their children. Especially in the cases of rape.jlh47

Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.

So is mass murder.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When it comes to the anti-abortion argument... where do you draw the line? Wouldn't a woman menstruating be killing a possible child? Should we outlaw menstruation and masturbation because they kill potential children?

It should be a choice. People should be able to choose whether or not they want to abort their children. Especially in the cases of rape.jlh47

Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.

That is why I am for abortion. If a baby dies, it's not like many people spent years getting to know that person and getting attached to their unique personality. It's not like it was contributing to society like an adult does. NOTICE I am not saying killing a baby is okay, I just don't think someone should get more/same punishment for killing a baby than killing an adult.massiv-damage

Are you talking about baby that is already born? Because it seems like it. I disgree with that if you are.

[QUOTE="massiv-damage"]That is why I am for abortion. If a baby dies, it's not like many people spent years getting to know that person and getting attached to their unique personality. It's not like it was contributing to society like an adult does. NOTICE I am not saying killing a baby is okay, I just don't think someone should get more/same punishment for killing a baby than killing an adult.cryptosopoidium

I see someone did massive damage to your brain when you were young.

So let's kill babies because they never experienced life in the first place.

Makes perfect sense.:roll:

Mmmm, baby. I Love it!Wetall_basic

They go good with maple syrup

Yeah, anyone with morals knows it's worse.

A baby is the closest thing you can get to a perfect human. They aren't born without sin, since everyone has original sin, but a baby is the most un-corrupted thing on the planet.

In a slight twist of irony, you ever notice how so many people oppose the death penalty but support abortion?:roll:

[QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When it comes to the anti-abortion argument... where do you draw the line? Wouldn't a woman menstruating be killing a possible child? Should we outlaw menstruation and masturbation because they kill potential children?

It should be a choice. People should be able to choose whether or not they want to abort their children. Especially in the cases of rape.Mr_sprinkles

Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.

my point being who are we to judge when it's ok to kill a fetus? are we so righteous and just that we can say if you kill it before this date it's not murder. no, we do that so we can have less responsibility for our actions and so we can keep telling ourselves that it wasn't against the law so it was the right thing to do...

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"]Mmmm, baby. I Love it!pintabear49blue

They go good with maple syrup

If you said a foetus, id agree. But a baby ? No!

If anything it is worse.

Yeah, anyone with morals knows it's worse.

A baby is the closest thing you can get to a perfect human. They aren't born without sin, since everyone has original sin, but a baby is the most un-corrupted thing on the planet.

In a slight twist of irony, you ever notice how so many people oppose the death penalty but support abortion?:roll:

MarineJcksn

That's why we legislate rights, not morals which are relative person to person.

Unborn "babies" don't have rights, only the mother does. As for convicted killers, they've lost theirs as to why the death penalty exists.

Simple answer to both.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When it comes to the anti-abortion argument... where do you draw the line? Wouldn't a woman menstruating be killing a possible child? Should we outlaw menstruation and masturbation because they kill potential children?

It should be a choice. People should be able to choose whether or not they want to abort their children. Especially in the cases of rape.jlh47

Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.

my point being who are we to judge when it's ok to kill a fetus? are we so righteous and just that we can say if you kill it before this date it's not murder. no, we do that so we can have less responsibility for our actions and so we can keep telling ourselves that it wasn't against the law so it was the right thing to do...

adults are worth much more to society

but yea...theres just something wrong with killing born babies. cant put my finger on what though...

So your saying that it would be morally right for me to run around a hospital smashing babies with a hammer because they don't have friends yet?

Sweet.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Yeah, anyone with morals knows it's worse.

A baby is the closest thing you can get to a perfect human. They aren't born without sin, since everyone has original sin, but a baby is the most un-corrupted thing on the planet.

In a slight twist of irony, you ever notice how so many people oppose the death penalty but support abortion?:roll:

Donkey_Puncher

That's why we legislate rights, not morals which are relative person to person.

Unborn "babies" don't have rights, only the mother does. As for convicted killers, they've lost theirs as to why the death penalty exists.

Simple answer to both.

Tell that to my tax dollars paying for keeping guys on death row for years and years:?

Death penalty is easier to fix then the issue on abortion. You commit murder, you get the death penalty. End of conflict.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Yeah, anyone with morals knows it's worse.

A baby is the closest thing you can get to a perfect human. They aren't born without sin, since everyone has original sin, but a baby is the most un-corrupted thing on the planet.

In a slight twist of irony, you ever notice how so many people oppose the death penalty but support abortion?:roll:

Donkey_Puncher

That's why we legislate rights, not morals which are relative person to person.

Unborn "babies" don't have rights, only the mother does. As for convicted killers, they've lost theirs as to why the death penalty exists.

Simple answer to both.

but if you kill a pregnant woman then that's considered double homicide.

Tell that to my tax dollars paying for keeping guys on death row for years and years:?

Death penalty is easier to fix then the issue on abortion. You commit murder, you get the death penalty. End of conflict.

MarineJcksn

Tell that to my tax dollars paying for keeping guys on death row for years and years:?

Death penalty is easier to fix then the issue on abortion. You commit murder, you get the death penalty. End of conflict.

MarineJcksn

Your tax dollars also cost to keep them in prison for longer, which costs more in the long run. Like I said, it's a rights issue, you kill someone you can lost your right to live. I also believe that every executed person should be obligated to donate his/her organs.

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Yeah, anyone with morals knows it's worse.

A baby is the closest thing you can get to a perfect human. They aren't born without sin, since everyone has original sin, but a baby is the most un-corrupted thing on the planet.

In a slight twist of irony, you ever notice how so many people oppose the death penalty but support abortion?:roll:

jlh47

That's why we legislate rights, not morals which are relative person to person.

Unborn "babies" don't have rights, only the mother does. As for convicted killers, they've lost theirs as to why the death penalty exists.

Simple answer to both.

but if you kill a pregnant woman then that's considered double homicide.

How is that considered double homicide to someone in support of abortion?

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Yeah, anyone with morals knows it's worse.

A baby is the closest thing you can get to a perfect human. They aren't born without sin, since everyone has original sin, but a baby is the most un-corrupted thing on the planet.

In a slight twist of irony, you ever notice how so many people oppose the death penalty but support abortion?:roll:

mindstorm

That's why we legislate rights, not morals which are relative person to person.

Unborn "babies" don't have rights, only the mother does. As for convicted killers, they've lost theirs as to why the death penalty exists.

Simple answer to both.

but if you kill a pregnant woman then that's considered double homicide.

How is that considered double homicide to someone in support of abortion?

because the murderer didn't give the baby a chance to live... double standards?

but if you kill a pregnant woman then that's considered double homicide. jlh47

I don't necessarilly agree with that law then....but I could see maybe they interpret it as the baby was terminated by somone OTHER than the mother; which in these cases the baby was wanted and would have been born with out the incident.

But Like I said, I don't think it should be double homicide, not atleast until it's past the due date for legal abortion in the US.

[QUOTE="jlh47"]

but if you kill a pregnant woman then that's considered double homicide. Donkey_Puncher

I don't necessarilly agree with that law then....but I could see maybe they interpret it as the baby was terminated by somone OTHER than the mother; which in these cases the baby was wanted and would have been born with out the incident.

But Like I said, I don't think it should be double homicide, not atleast until it's past the due date for legal abortion in the US.

what about the man? it's his child as well... just at least give it up for adoption. give it a chance...