Kimbo Slice.... a Joke?

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#1 aka_aj03
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I don't know if Kimbo fight was fixed... but I agree with the article that he has no chance surving in the UFC

...That's what Kimbo looked like in the run up to this one. He's training as hard as he can, but he has to know the truth. Fedor Emelianenko, the best heavyweight in the world, would toy with him. Every heavyweight and light heavyweight in the UFC would beat him handily. Even some middleweights, such as Anderson Silva, despite giving up 50-plus pounds, would take him. It's just a matter of MMA being a lot more than a street brawl. He's on their turf now.

Colossus has now lost seven of his last nine fights and he wasn't enough of a stiff to assure Kimbo victory. Kimbo is fun, but reality is reality.

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#2 PBSnipes
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I don't think anyone expects Kimbo to fight against top-tier MMA'ers. He's a sideshow like Butterbean.
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#3 Andrew_Xavier
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He barely "beat" James Thompson, and only due to a stoppage that shouldn't have happened. He is not a good fighter.
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#4 Tjeremiah1988
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a joke while standing up, nope. On the ground, yes
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#5 Jacboy71
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Ahh mankind when someone makes it on top there will always be haters. Just let the man fight he is proving his worth with all his fights everybody keep underestimating him and he keeps on shutting em up he is a force to be reckoned with deal with it.

Kimbo slice a sideshow? If he's a side show I would love to see you he is a great fighter we are from the same town and I have had dinner with and watched him train before he is a hard woker let the haters hate you guys can only dream to be as good as him.

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#6 Jacboy71
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a joke while standing up, nope. On the ground, yesTjeremiah1988

He needs to get better on the ground that is true but saying he is a joke on the ground absurd did you see his ground defense it was pretty good.

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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]a joke while standing up, nope. On the ground, yesJacboy71

He needs to get better on the ground that is true but saying he is a joke on the ground absurd did you see his ground defense it was pretty good.

yea, I admit he was pretty good but in the middle of round 2 he wasnt executing. He needs to get better on the ground for sure.

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#8 Andrew_Xavier
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Ahh mankind when someone makes it on top there will always be haters. Just let the man fight he is proving his worth with all his fights everybody keep underestimating him and he keeps on shutting em up he is a force to be reckoned with deal with it.

Kimbo slice a sideshow? If he's a side show I would love to see you he is a great fighter we are from the same town and I have had dinner with and watched him train before he is a hard woker let the haters hate you guys can only dream to be as good as him.

Jacboy71

Did you even watch his fight against Thompson? Thompson is a bad fighter, lost 7 of his last 9 fights, and yet Kimbo looked much much worse, hell, Thompson owned him, then Kimbo blew Thompson's ear up, and the ref stopped the fight for no reason...if Kimbo was a good fighter, he would have killed Thompson...like...BUTTERBEAN DID!........

Seriously, Thompson lost a fight to Butterbean not long ago. I'm not joking.

Butterbean knocked him out in 43 seconds. Thompson sucks, Kimbo is useless, I'd love to see him against a real MMA fighter.

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#9 InsomniacZombie
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That whole show was a joke. Although the womens fight was VERY entertaining, they were way too quick to stop the fights, probably part due to the network TV factor.

Kimbo WAS indeed a joke. Even his stand up wasnt impressive. If he was so good, with all the punches he landed, his opponet should be dead. Mad props to him though. If half his ear didnt almost fall off, he would have probably won that fight.

Leave the MMA to better production crews CBS. VERY bad show, with way too much talk and BS.

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#10 haterex
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All you gotta do against Kimbo is put him in submission moves...wear him out...and not let him punch you...

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#11 Jacboy71
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[QUOTE="Jacboy71"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]a joke while standing up, nope. On the ground, yesTjeremiah1988

He needs to get better on the ground that is true but saying he is a joke on the ground absurd did you see his ground defense it was pretty good.

yea, I admit he was pretty good but in the middle of round 2 he wasnt executing. He needs to get better on the ground for sure.

Lol did you see the end of round 2 Kimbo got his ass beat for the whole last minute on the ground and just got up like it was nothing it was hilarious.

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Ahh mankind when someone makes it on top there will always be haters. Just let the man fight he is proving his worth with all his fights everybody keep underestimating him and he keeps on shutting em up he is a force to be reckoned with deal with it.

Kimbo slice a sideshow? If he's a side show I would love to see you he is a great fighter we are from the same town and I have had dinner with and watched him train before he is a hard woker let the haters hate you guys can only dream to be as good as him.

Jacboy71
If he gets his ju-jitsu and muay-thai up to snuff then he could be a force, but without those in place he'll never be able to compete against the top-tier fighters.
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#13 Jacboy71
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[QUOTE="Jacboy71"]

Ahh mankind when someone makes it on top there will always be haters. Just let the man fight he is proving his worth with all his fights everybody keep underestimating him and he keeps on shutting em up he is a force to be reckoned with deal with it.

Kimbo slice a sideshow? If he's a side show I would love to see you he is a great fighter we are from the same town and I have had dinner with and watched him train before he is a hard woker let the haters hate you guys can only dream to be as good as him.

Andrew_Xavier

Did you even watch his fight against Thompson? Thompson is a bad fighter, lost 7 of his last 9 fights, and yet Kimbo looked much much worse, hell, Thompson owned him, then Kimbo blew Thompson's ear up, and the ref stopped the fight for no reason...if Kimbo was a good fighter, he would have killed Thompson...like...BUTTERBEAN DID!........

Seriously, Thompson lost a fight to Butterbean not long ago. I'm not joking.

Butterbean knocked him out in 43 seconds. Thompson sucks, Kimbo is useless, I'd love to see him against a real MMA fighter.

I agree it was a bad fight for both fighters but thompson was done man the ref stopped it at the right time. Did you see the slow mo of the last few blows? Thompson was just eating blow after blow he didn't even noe where he was at all. The ref made a good call.

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#14 kozzy1234
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Elite XC is a joke.... Kimbo Slice is someoen i have respect for, since he came from nothing.

But the guy is way outta his league in MMA. If he went to the UFC and fought real fighters he would get his ass kicked.

I respect the guy to a certain degree, but Elite XC is a joke that not many people take seriously.

Kimbo should stick to street fights imo, or go to a MMA league that has some respect and isnt a joke.

Kimbo is a decent fighter, but the league he is in is a huge joke and is goign bankrupt already.

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I LOVE Kimbo. I'd let him beat me up :)

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#16 freshgman
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They had to stop his freakin ear was almost ripped off
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#17 k_smoove
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The real joke is Timbo.
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#18 Montaya
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I don't know if Kimbo fight was fixed... but I agree with the article that he has no chance surving in the UFC

...That's what Kimbo looked like in the run up to this one. He's training as hard as he can, but he has to know the truth. Fedor Emelianenko, the best heavyweight in the world, would toy with him. Every heavyweight and light heavyweight in the UFC would beat him handily. Even some middleweights, such as Anderson Silva, despite giving up 50-plus pounds, would take him. It's just a matter of MMA being a lot more than a street brawl. He's on their turf now.

Colossus has now lost seven of his last nine fights and he wasn't enough of a stiff to assure Kimbo victory. Kimbo is fun, but reality is reality.

aka_aj03

I missed that fight, is it on youtube or something?

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#19 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]

I don't know if Kimbo fight was fixed... but I agree with the article that he has no chance surving in the UFC

...That's what Kimbo looked like in the run up to this one. He's training as hard as he can, but he has to know the truth. Fedor Emelianenko, the best heavyweight in the world, would toy with him. Every heavyweight and light heavyweight in the UFC would beat him handily. Even some middleweights, such as Anderson Silva, despite giving up 50-plus pounds, would take him. It's just a matter of MMA being a lot more than a street brawl. He's on their turf now.

Colossus has now lost seven of his last nine fights and he wasn't enough of a stiff to assure Kimbo victory. Kimbo is fun, but reality is reality.

Montaya

I missed that fight, is it on youtube or something?

Likely, it was an awful fight. Poor showing for Elite XC, the Robbie Lawler fight got pegged a draw because of an involuntary eye poke, how useless is that? The only good fight was the woman, they showed the most skill of the night.

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Kimbo just swings for the fences and hopes for the best.
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#21 rimnet00
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I don't think anyone expects Kimbo to fight against top-tier MMA'ers. He's a sideshow like Butterbean.PBSnipes
... he didn't fight a top tiered MMA fighter... the guy he fought was a joke.

Also, yes the fight got rigged. They totally called the fight off under no real merit, other then to save XLC's mascot from losing his first fight on national tv.

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#22 ishoturface
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why is it that these days when a under dog wins everybody thinks the fight it fixed?

Maybe he has talent maybe he is better than everybody else why dont people just give him a chance?

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#23 Andrew_Xavier
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why is it that these days when a under dog wins everybody thinks the fight it fixed?

Maybe he has talent maybe he is better than everybody else why dont people just give him a chance?

ishoturface

Did you watch the fight? It wasn't fixed, but, the ref sure pulled it real quick, the first second Kimbo actually did...anything...

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I think Colossus would have won if his ear didn't blow. Kimbo sucks.
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#25 Andrew_Xavier
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I think Colossus would have won if his ear didn't blow. Kimbo sucks.Immortalica

Yup, and Colossus lost to Butterbean, that shows his pedigree, Kimbo is useless, they are going to feed him weak opponents from now on I bet.

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#26 DeerhunterIA
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Kimbo isn't a joke. He is a legit MMA fighter. He just isn't a good one yet. He's on the same level as the guys on TUF or the guys on the local shows every major city has. Due to his popularity from youtube he is thrust onto the main stage. He'll keep getting better. Just don't expect him to take on anyone good for another year or so.
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#27 Andrew_Xavier
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He's on the same level as the guys on TUF.DeerhunterIA

The guys on TUF are legit fighters, Kimbo is a joke.

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#28 mohan88
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Kimbo can take anyone in a stand up and on ground not so much..........
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#29 DeerhunterIA
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[QUOTE="DeerhunterIA"] He's on the same level as the guys on TUF.Andrew_Xavier

The guys on TUF are legit fighters, Kimbo is a joke.

He trains full-time with a legend in the sport. How is he different then any other low level fighter like those on TUF?

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#30 thegame458
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People criticise Kimbo so much because he is famous after only 3 MMA fights. Due to the fact that he is still quite new to the sport, making him a mediocre fighter, but he is a great entertainer. He will eventually become better throughout is career. Even though he is training with Bas Rutten, he will still need sufficeient experience to go with those UFC guys. I think people are too judgemental towards him, however in 2-3 fights I think he can proabably handle UFC, depending on his training and will,
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#31 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="DeerhunterIA"] He's on the same level as the guys on TUF.DeerhunterIA

The guys on TUF are legit fighters, Kimbo is a joke.

He trains full-time with a legend in the sport. How is he different then any other low level fighter like those on TUF?

The difference is: He wouldn't qualify for the show with his current skillset.

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#32 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I don't think anyone expects Kimbo to fight against top-tier MMA'ers. He's a sideshow like Butterbean.rimnet00

... he didn't fight a top tiered MMA fighter... the guy he fought was a joke.

Also, yes the fight got rigged. They totally called the fight off under no real merit, other then to save XLC's mascot from losing his first fight on national tv.

That's my point, he's only going to fight B-grade fighters because he doesn't have the skills necessary to compete against top-tier fighters, at least not yet.
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#33 xscrapzx
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What I don't understand is why everyone thinks Kimbo deserves to just go and fight a top tier fighter while everyone else has to work their way to the top. What you people don't know is he has some talent and a lot of people think he has a chance to make it big, but in order to do that you have to prove yourself. That means fighting in these crappy leagues and fighting against mediocre fighters. If he continues to win agianst these not so good fighters he will be able to work his way to up to notable figthers. Hey and don't judge him for fighting these guys hes not making them up and how can blame the guy for taking 6 figures to fight in a mediocre league, crap I would. All of you saying he is such a joke then why don't you step up to him and see how much of a joke he is. You guys are making it like MMA is easy, so go ahead and do a better job then him.

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#34 kozzy1234
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People criticise Kimbo so much because he is famous after only 3 MMA fights. Due to the fact that he is still quite new to the sport, making him a mediocre fighter, but he is a great entertainer. He will eventually become better throughout is career. Even though he is training with Bas Rutten, he will still need sufficeient experience to go with those UFC guys. I think people are too judgemental towards him, however in 2-3 fights I think he can proabably handle UFC, depending on his training and will,thegame458

It doesnt take 2 months to learn Jiu Jitsu and ground game stuff.. Most fighters spent years and years learning those things.

N o way in 2-3 more fights will he be amazing on the ground or anything else.

Hes a stand up fighter and it will take him years and years to be anything more.

I have respect for him and he is a good entertainer, but studying all teh stuff in MMA isnt something you learn over night ot in a month or two.

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#35 shyskillz
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TC talks like he can beat Kimbo. lol

Kimbo is powerful and has a chin of stone.

It will be interesting to see how far he goes but i'm not going to go as far as to saying he's a joke and can't stand up to competitions. What if he just walks into the ring and just dumps your boy with a quick right hand. ....it's not like things like this didn't happen before.....

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#36 Its2Easy
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he's been doing MMA for like less than a year. you guys need ot give him a break.
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#37 freshgman
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He could beat any of us down and thats no joke...
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#38 Manly-manly-man
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He knocked Tank Abbot out, and regardless of what shape Tank was in, that's not an easy thing to do. Also: This was his 3rd **** fight. Chill out. Wait until he has some fights under his belt.
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#39 TheRealMC01
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he's still got a lot to learn, give him a break.
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#40 Tjeremiah1988
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dude lost an eye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOpXdexXprQ

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#41 Robertoey
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I've been saying that Kimbo is a joke ever since he started in MMA. He lost round 1 and 2 to James Thompson, and then won round 3 in what a lot of people are calling a bad stoppage. His ground game was horrible, his boxing wasn't that impressive, and his conditioning was a huge let down.

Some people even say that the fight should've been stopped in the second when Kimbo was taking all those elbows, though personally I don't think I agree with this, because by then Thompson was tired and not dealing much damage.

He barely scratched out a questionable win against James Thompson and Thompson isn't even a good fighter. Despite all of this, believe it or not, I actually like Kimbo. I think he's got a lot of heart and good work ethic. However, he will never be a top HW, or even a very good middle tier HW for that matter.

On a side note, man was that a bad event.

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#42 Manly-manly-man
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I've been saying that Kimbo is a joke ever since he started in MMA. He lost round 1 and 2 to James Thompson, and then won round 3 in what a lot of people are calling a bad stoppage. His ground game was horrible, his boxing wasn't that impressive, and his conditioning was a huge let down.

Some people even say that the fight should've been stopped in the second when Kimbo was taking all those elbows, though personally I don't think I agree with this, because by then Thompson was tired and not dealing much damage.

He barely scratched out a questionable win against James Thompson and Thompson isn't even a good fighter. Despite all of this, believe it or not, I actually like Kimbo. I think he's got a lot of heart and good work ethic. However, he will never be a top HW, or even a very good middle tier HW for that matter.

On a side note, man was that a bad event.

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Those elbows did no damage at all, it was pathetic. Kimbo just got up like nothing happened.

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#43 IxDRAILxI
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I don't know if Kimbo fight was fixed... but I agree with the article that he has no chance surving in the UFC

...That's what Kimbo looked like in the run up to this one. He's training as hard as he can, but he has to know the truth. Fedor Emelianenko, the best heavyweight in the world, would toy with him. Every heavyweight and light heavyweight in the UFC would beat him handily. Even some middleweights, such as Anderson Silva, despite giving up 50-plus pounds, would take him. It's just a matter of MMA being a lot more than a street brawl. He's on their turf now.

Colossus has now lost seven of his last nine fights and he wasn't enough of a stiff to assure Kimbo victory. Kimbo is fun, but reality is reality.

aka_aj03

i highly disagree with you. first of your judging a fighter who basicly just started fighting professionaly. dont get me wrong though, he does need ALOT of improvement, but the improvement he needs comes with experience thats what you people dont seem to understand. IMO he is one of the best stand up fighters consider how good his accuracy is and how powerful his punch is. but when is comes to stamina and being on his back he is horrible ans tends to go for chokes to much. but when it comes to ground and pound he is decent.

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#44 Unforgiven2870
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To many haters in this thread Give Kimbo some time....its not like he can suddenly learn a ground game in one day.
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#45 Norg
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true true

but during the first 2 mins hes a beast and has a hard hitter and can take alot of beatings

but lacks stamina

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#46 IgNIght
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I saw the fight on Saturday night. For those who say that it shouldn't have ended, that guy was out on his feet. His eyes were all glazed over after his ear popped (btw, should that thing even be considered an ear?) and then Kimbo punched him in the head five or six times while he just starred off into the distance. He didn't give any indication that he was even capable of blocking. Kimbo would have punched him until he fell over dead, because that's what he does. It was a good call on the refs part.
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#47 Unforgiven2870
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true true

but during the first 2 mins hes a beast and has a hard hitter and can take alot of beatings

but lacks stamina

Norg
I think that will also build over time as well.
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#48 ishoturface
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why is it that these days when a under dog wins everybody thinks the fight it fixed?

Maybe he has talent maybe he is better than everybody else why dont people just give him a chance?

Andrew_Xavier

Did you watch the fight? It wasn't fixed, but, the ref sure pulled it real quick, the first second Kimbo actually did...anything...

yes i watched the fight
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#49 thegame458
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[QUOTE="thegame458"]People criticise Kimbo so much because he is famous after only 3 MMA fights. Due to the fact that he is still quite new to the sport, making him a mediocre fighter, but he is a great entertainer. He will eventually become better throughout is career. Even though he is training with Bas Rutten, he will still need sufficeient experience to go with those UFC guys. I think people are too judgemental towards him, however in 2-3 fights I think he can proabably handle UFC, depending on his training and will,kozzy1234

It doesnt take 2 months to learn Jiu Jitsu and ground game stuff.. Most fighters spent years and years learning those things.

N o way in 2-3 more fights will he be amazing on the ground or anything else.

Hes a stand up fighter and it will take him years and years to be anything more.

I have respect for him and he is a good entertainer, but studying all teh stuff in MMA isnt something you learn over night ot in a month or two.

Thats true, but maybe that time, he will last a chance with the UFC guys. But overall your right. I just can't wait to know who his next oppenent will be
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#50 -PaCMaN-
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Some people are just natural fighters, Some people have been fighting all their lives ( You can't get more professional then that), Some people's fighting ways are better then others, The fact that he's making such a big impact so soon says alot. Jealous people are always going to have something negative to say. Time will tell

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