kurt cobain 20th anniversary coming up

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/20/showbiz/kurt-cobain-death-probe/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

what does everyone think, suicide? murder?

It's a pact with the rest of the group to gain fame\money.

who?

@hippiesanta said:

@Nengo_Flow said:

who?

what?

Suicide....and it shouldn't surprise anyone that people with drug habit take that route.

Those saying who.....shame pop culture passes you by.

It was really the Lords of Omniverse 18. Dastardly. Cunning. And perhaps a little to good looking to boot. That is what drives them all insane.

Making ignorant generalizations as always i see.

Courtney Love murdered him.

He played Russian roulette against the mice in his skin with a pumpaction shotgun... He lost

Nirvana had one decent album and a bunch of posers went ape sh*t when Kurt Cobain died.No big thing that he died.I'm sorry the man died,but he did that to himself.Plus Nevermind was a OVERATED album.

You can't really deny that they were a decent band, plus Nevermind is probably their weakest effort imo, Unplugged, Bleach and In Utero are all far better. Nevermind is just an oddball middle of the road album that doesn't have neither the raw punkish energy appeal of Bleach nor the more mesmerizing and melancholic qualities of In Utero. It certainly doesn't come close to Unplugged.

Technically she hired someone else to murder him, and made to look like a suicide.

And so true that drug habits can cause people to do such harsh things. Courtney was a bigger addict than Kurt was.

Courtney Love killed him. Whether or not he deserved it, or asked for it, who knows.

Well he was married to Courtney Love so not surprising

Wow,

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2.) I never once mentioned Heroin addicts. I just find it absurd that given the amount of drug addictions in America, vs the suicide rate, people like LJS can make ignorant statements suggesting that it's a common occurrence for "people with drug habit" to attempt suicide.

Do you ever understand what you read? To say there aren't people with addiction problems that choose suicide is stupid. But then I guess I should consider the source.

There's a difference between

"A small percentage of people with drug addictions, take their lives"

and

"Well, no-one should be surprised that he committed suicide, it shouldn't surprise anyone that people with drug habit take that route."

Seems you fail and reading comprehension to the point where you're not even understanding what you write.

85 percent of drug users end up dying.

Correction.

100% of drug users end up dying.along with 100% of all living organisms.

You really do have a hard on for trolling me. The use of people is correct as more than one person with a drug addiction has, in fact, committed suicide. It is not an uncommon happening. I realize you love semantics and are quite pedantic...but please learn how to use vocabulary properly first.

@reaper4278:I dont know if you're trolling, or what it is.

1.) We were not talking "illicit drugs", so please stop moving the goalposts.

Common drugs used among people:
TobaccoAlcohol
Painkillers.

Are you telling me, that if someone smokes a cigarette. No-one should be surprised if they commit suicide?
Every person at a bar/nightclub, could commit suicide, and "it shouldn't surprise anyone" because they were drinking liquor?

So you're comparing ciggs to heroine? Good debate coming up.

He's right....you need to give up. You won't win.

There are more commonly used drugs than heroin or meth.

I guess because you take a Tylenol for headaches, no-one should be surprised if you suicide.

Really, no-one should be surprised if anyone commits suicide by your logic.Between Caffine, cough medicines, headache remedies, liqour, and cigarettes everyone's got some drug use in their life.

He was murdered.

I never said he was referring to cigarettes. However he made a generalization and I pointed it out.
You're the one who made a big thing about it.

Are you surprised that things like Cigs and Coffee are drugs? Where did you go to school? :s

No I did NOT make a generalization....you just suck at reading comprehension. This thread is about Cobain. Hence I'm referring to his drug habit. But like I said....you'll make an ass of yourself consistently to troll me. You need to get over your obsession with quoting me and trying illogical arguments for attention dude.

42.1 million people in the USA smoke cigarettes.

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/adult_data/cig_smoking/

More than 50% of the USA is considered a "regular drinker"
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm
There are 319 million people in the USA, so that's 159.5 million people drink regularly, we can call that a habit.

There were 38,364 total suicides in the USA.

So, Ignoring the smokers, as there's probbably some overlap, and ignoring all the illicit drugs, and all the legal drug abuses.

(38364/319000000)x100 = 0.012%

Yet

Another thread turned into a pathetic mess.

First...we're not talking about alcohol. We are talking about heroin in regard to Cobain. It's well documented what drug he struggled with. Your straw man fails.

Second, I did not say all drug users. I said drug users. Period. It is amusing the attempts you to in order to troll...but you are making an ass of yourself. Though I don't think you are bright enough to see that.

He said "people with a drug habit".
Well, Caffeine is a drug.
Alcohol is a drug.
Nicotine is a drug.

Wrong, the KIND of drugs is VERY important.
Because next he could be making the ignorant statement "You'll be addicted the first time you try them" or "Drugs literally rot the flesh of your bones".

Well, lets see, Tylenol doesn't make you an addict the first time, and it doesn't rot your flesh.
Caffeine? No to both.
Pot? Still no.
LSD? Again, still no.

Oh right, Meth makes you an addict the first time, and Krocodil rots the flesh off your bones.
Guess it makes sense to be specific, no?

Let me know when you finish grade-school english.
Seems you're unable to even comprehend the sentences you're writing to their full extent.

I'm a huge fan of Nirvana, got all their albums, except their Live at the Dishwalla (I think thats the name), but Jesus, people need to move on. The miserable bastard shot himself, coupled with a dangerous potent intake of drugs, thats it. All these conspiracy theories are just plain media drivel, nothing more.

@reaper4278:

I have a serious issue with people mis-representing the truth. You didn't even make the statement, so I'm not sure why you're even asking, or why you're using the term "we".

I understand Kurt Cobain died with a considerable amount of heroin in his system. I understand Heroin is illegal, and that Heroin users are 14 times more likely to commit suicide.
However.

I cannot get past this statement.

He did not say Heroin.
He did not say Illicit drugs.
He said "Drugs".

Should we not be surprised if a happy young hippie couple who smokes pot, kills themselves for whatever reason?
"Whatever, they've got a drug habit, it shouldn't be of any surprise" right?
Again, half the country is considered "Regular users of Alcohol" according to the CDC's standards.
Between all the legal drugs, there's only a very small part of the population that we expect not to commit suicide?

This topic is ridiculous.

Not the subject.... I meant the discussions that are going on.