Legalizing Drugs, and every other substance for that matter - good or bad?

When I was younger my father would occasionally preach the benefits of legalizing drugs, he made a decent point, what with no gangs fighting over things like that anymore, but this is an insanely flawed arguement.

Anyone in a gang is accustomed to being a violent brute, they would ALWAYS find something to fight about. Even if there were no more drugs, they would tear people apart just for fun, and it would be worse, considering they could walk into pretty much any shop and obtain mind altering or violent drugs.

Besides, people do drugs in private as to not get caught. If everyone could run around in the streets high or raging it would be a 24/7 riot/orgy/party.

It wouldnt be good to legalize drugs. Not at all. But thats just me, what does everyone else think?

You and your absolutes :roll:

Anyway, I agree that it's probably not a good idea.

You and your absolutes :roll:

Jandurin

You and your utterly disturbing and inhumanely grotesque avatar.:roll:

You and your utterly disturbing and inhumanely grotesque avatar.:roll:Dracargen

That really did actually make me laugh.

You and your absolutes :roll:

Anyway, I agree that it's probably not a good idea.

Jandurin

You voted 'Yes'...Ok, the top one is 'no' shouldnt be legal and the one below is 'yes' they should be legal.

You voted 'Yes'...Myrkan

I just posted.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

You and your absolutes :roll:

Dracargen

You and your utterly disturbing and inhumanely grotesque avatar.:roll:

:lol: WIN.

What's the deal with all the threads on legalizing drugs?? Are there a bunch of junkies on this board?flipv6

A lot of people here talk about loving ecstasy and how many hits of acid they do on a regular basis...

The Prohibiton brought us two things. Organized Crime and NASCAR. When you make the substance illegal, you give criminals more means to find funding for bigger crimes. Gang violence would still be an issue, but with the inability to move drugs you would severely cut their funding thus reducing the amount financing for weapons as well as removing the opportunity for a deal to go south and violence to occur.

Also, Gang violence is never "just for fun". There is always a motive behind it. Legalization of drugs wouldn't cause them to be any more or less violent than tey already are.

Also, government regulation and taxation would cause a huge surplus in our governmental spending. You tax the product and the producers, you free up the money spent fighting the issue (which is more or less being wasted), and you cross reference those buying drugs and alcohol with the list of people on welfare and drawing unemployment and set limits (or completely refuse to sell) to those individuals.

The fiscal benefits alone are worth legalizing it.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]You and your utterly disturbing and inhumanely grotesque avatar.:roll:Jandurin

That really did actually make me laugh.

I'm glad.

But seriously, what in the name of God's holy **** is that?:|

I'm for the legalization of drugs. People are going to use drugs, whether they're legal or not. I don't think the government should have the right to tell us what we should put in our bodies. If some moron wants to kill himself with heroin, it's his own stupid fault. The point is, there's a lot of time, money, and manpower spent trying to stop drugs that could be used for more important things. Also, the government could regulate and tax the hell out of drugs. People would buy them, and it would provide legitimate jobs to many impoverished South American countries.SmashBrosLegend

You make a good point, but by legalizing them we are also making it easier for junkies to acquire them, therefore killing their body faster while the government makes more money. I understand people will do them anyway, but there are ways to save them. And if its legal, everyone will feel like they dont need to intervene.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]You and your utterly disturbing and inhumanely grotesque avatar.:roll:Dracargen

That really did actually make me laugh.

I'm glad.

Now change your avatar.:|

What's wrong with Gogo? He rules! Fight, Blitz, Lore, and Magic!

But seriously, what in the name of God's holy **** is that?:|Dracargen

http://www.ffonline.com/ff6/gogo.htm

Video game character. What's yours, while we're on the subject.

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]I'm for the legalization of drugs. People are going to use drugs, whether they're legal or not. I don't think the government should have the right to tell us what we should put in our bodies. If some moron wants to kill himself with heroin, it's his own stupid fault. The point is, there's a lot of time, money, and manpower spent trying to stop drugs that could be used for more important things. Also, the government could regulate and tax the hell out of drugs. People would buy them, and it would provide legitimate jobs to many impoverished South American countries.Myrkan

You make a good point, but by legalizing them we are also making it easier for junkies to acquire them, therefore killing their body faster while the government makes more money. I understand people will do them anyway, but there are ways to save them. And if its legal, everyone will feel like they dont need to intervene.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]But seriously, what in the name of God's holy **** is that?:|Jandurin

http://www.ffonline.com/ff6/gogo.htm

Video game character. What's yours, while we're on the subject.

A dragon picture I found on Photobucket. I don't think it has any relevance to any video game.

Either they all have to be illegal or none of them.swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"]Either they all have to be illegal or none of them.Jandurin

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]I'm for the legalization of drugs. People are going to use drugs, whether they're legal or not. I don't think the government should have the right to tell us what we should put in our bodies. If some moron wants to kill himself with heroin, it's his own stupid fault. The point is, there's a lot of time, money, and manpower spent trying to stop drugs that could be used for more important things. Also, the government could regulate and tax the hell out of drugs. People would buy them, and it would provide legitimate jobs to many impoverished South American countries.Myrkan

You make a good point, but by legalizing them we are also making it easier for junkies to acquire them, therefore killing their body faster while the government makes more money. I understand people will do them anyway, but there are ways to save them. And if its legal, everyone will feel like they dont need to intervene.

It's not the government's job to save a person from themself. We already have the facilities setup for people who want help. Making it legal also means that "junkies" are less likely to develop such a bad habit. The logic being that better regulated drugs, more ability to study the effects, and less people slinking to bad parts of town and dealing with people who only care about making a buck means that the cases will be less severe and more easily treated.

Look at the instances of alcoholism in comparison to the amount of people who imbibe once a year or more. The majority of society can handle it and those that can't are more likely to get help now than a heroine addict. Intervention and legality aren't related. In fact, the stigma of someone using an illegal substance makes it more likely that an enabler will continue to enable so as to not have a large public showing of their dirty laundry.

Theres 8 billion people on this planet?
The earth can sustain like 2 billion?

I say legalise everything, let the weakwilled bury their own graves.

@moptopskate:

You need to define broken. I actually believe the system is extremely broken on many different levels.

If something is working but isn't in the best possible configuration, there is room for improvement. Don't we owe it to ourselves to make the things we can effect better?

@moptopskate:

You need to define broken. I actually believe the system is extremely broken on many different levels.

If something is working but isn't in the best possible configuration, there is room for improvement. Don't we owe it to ourselves to make the things we can effect better?

effthat

people die from drugs. Legalizing drugs will not make it better.

The only bad thing about drugs are the laws surrounding them.

Legalize them if you care about helping people more than you care about being "holier than thou".

[QUOTE="effthat"]

@moptopskate:

You need to define broken. I actually believe the system is extremely broken on many different levels.

If something is working but isn't in the best possible configuration, there is room for improvement. Don't we owe it to ourselves to make the things we can effect better?

moptopskate

people die from drugs. Legalizing drugs will not make it better.

Cops won't die from being shot by drug dealers.

Kids won't die from being shot by gang members who sole source of income are illegal drugs.

People won't die from smoking something that is laced with embalming fluid.

Idiots who don't understand the word overdose will continue to die though.

[QUOTE="effthat"]

@moptopskate:

You need to define broken. I actually believe the system is extremely broken on many different levels.

If something is working but isn't in the best possible configuration, there is room for improvement. Don't we owe it to ourselves to make the things we can effect better?

moptopskate

people die from drugs. Legalizing drugs will not make it better.

People die from car crashes on the way to work. Should we stop working?

People die from AIDS, but we still have sex.

People die from drinking too much water, and yet without it we'd be in the same position.

People die just from living. Death has nothing to do with whether drugs should be illegal.

[QUOTE="moptopskate"][QUOTE="effthat"]

@moptopskate:

You need to define broken. I actually believe the system is extremely broken on many different levels.

If something is working but isn't in the best possible configuration, there is room for improvement. Don't we owe it to ourselves to make the things we can effect better?

Merkaba-

people die from drugs. Legalizing drugs will not make it better.

Cops won't die from being shot by drug dealers.

Kids won't die from being shot by gang members who sole source of income are illegal drugs.

People won't die from smoking something that is laced with embalming fluid.

Idiots who don't understand the word overdose will continue to die though.

Quoted for truth.

I'd add

Idiots who don't understand that drugs are bad (mkayy?) will continue to die.

I've always thought drugs are bad. So legalizing is a no no.123625

You've always been taught that drugs are bad.

For more information on the maliability of young minds, look here! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_youth

Legalization doesn't mean no regulation. As long as you aren't infringing on others rights and safety, there should be no problem.

I think we should legalize EVERYTHING for 1 month, see how that turns out. Yes, even murder and theft, etc. etc.

I think we should legalize EVERYTHING for 1 month, see how that turns out. Yes, even murder and theft, etc. etc.

ElArab

[QUOTE="ElArab"]

I think we should legalize EVERYTHING for 1 month, see how that turns out. Yes, even murder and theft, etc. etc.

Jandurin

Nobody does population control better than nature.

The legality of a crime does little to hinder a person who has made up their mind to do something. I think that we'd find society generally stays the same.

When I was younger my father would occasionally preach the benefits of legalizing drugs, he made a decent point, what with no gangs fighting over things like that anymore, but this is an insanely flawed arguement.

Anyone in a gang is accustomed to being a violent brute, they would ALWAYS find something to fight about. Even if there were no more drugs, they would tear people apart just for fun, and it would be worse, considering they could walk into pretty much any shop and obtain mind altering or violent drugs.

Besides, people do drugs in private as to not get caught. If everyone could run around in the streets high or raging it would be a 24/7 riot/orgy/party.

It wouldnt be good to legalize drugs. Not at all. But thats just me, what does everyone else think?

Myrkan

You are aware that drinking alcohol in the streets is illegal right? So it would be more along the lines of doing it in your private househod.

But even then there would be problems, like injecting then driving. However I think the first "drug" thart should be addressed is marijuana. It really should be decriminalized (don't get confused with legalize), where you don't have the potential for a criminal record for possesion.

I feel bad for ppl in Holland where legal pot as lead to the death of thousands.....:|killtactics

Where did you get that info?