Lets discuss the hallucinating properties of current music

Take for instance alot of "indie" music today:

The music is built upon heavy use of sythesizers and continuous, repeating guitars chords, producing a very "melted" together if you will sound that I almost like to describe and liken to that of the juices from a nice steak swirling around your mouth. It's that similar effect, except in your head. I've noticed that it's almost a standard style these days, almost sounding the same throughout music. Now I wonder, is such an overuse and exploitation of such a style shallow, especially when its so similar sounding across multiple bands? Frankly such repetition while can be well orchestrated I think is kinda shallow and sometimes shows a lack in musical skill even though we tend to like it. I do like the melting effect in all it's greatness, but I mean come on let's change up the notes a bit instead of repeating the same damn note 20+ times. It seems Cold Play especially has resorted to this kind of musical make up, but I do understand it's been around since the 80s as well. Then again though, good music in general does really take you somewhere else. LOL I'm surprised the "authority" that is the Church hasn't condemned music for being "hallucinetic" even though they use music in the same fashion to create a feeling of "transcendence" when at a church service or w/e.

:o I like Coldplay :cry:

Also

You tell me how the Arcade Fire and Modest Mouse are so similar musically. I still can't figure it out.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]You tell me how the Arcade Fire and Modest Mouse are so similar musically. I still can't figure it out.TacticalElefant

I don't find all the current music to be similiar.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't find all the current music to be similiar.TacticalElefant

[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't find all the current music to be similiar.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't find all the current music to be similiar.quiglythegreat

The Cure and The Church can be blissful.....I'd not use it to describe the other two bands however.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="TacticalElefant"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't find all the current music to be similiar.LJS9502_basic

The Cure and The Church can be blissful.....I'd not use it to describe the other two bands however.

I'm using it broadly as term for "enjoyable". Feeling good or being fulfilling can be the most earsplitting sound ever, but if you revel or relish in it in anyway, I think blissful can be used for describing ones enjoyment with a song. Even something as depressing as Rooster by Alice in Chains can be considered blissful if you enjoy listening to it, even if it only makes you depressed or anything. It serves a psychological need, and fulfilling that need is relieving and enjoyable (no pun intended) .TacticalElefant

That's as may be...but I did say I'd not use it. :|

I hate new music.rockguy92

How can you hate all that music?

I'm using it broadly as term for "enjoyable". Feeling good or being fulfilling can be the most earsplitting sound ever, but if you revel or relish in it in anyway, I think blissful can be used for describing ones enjoyment with a song. Even something as depressing as Rooster by Alice in Chains can be considered blissful if you enjoy listening to it, even if it only makes you depressed or anything. It serves a psychological need, and fulfilling that need is relieving and enjoyable (no pun intended) .TacticalElefant

[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"]
I'm using it broadly as term for "enjoyable". Feeling good or being fulfilling can be the most earsplitting sound ever, but if you revel or relish in it in anyway, I think blissful can be used for describing ones enjoyment with a song. Even something as depressing as Rooster by Alice in Chains can be considered blissful if you enjoy listening to it, even if it only makes you depressed or anything. It serves a psychological need, and fulfilling that need is relieving and enjoyable (no pun intended) .LJS9502_basic

That's as may be...but I did say I'd not use it. :|

Well ok, let's use fulfilling from now on, no matter whan kind of fulfilling you need. A need to feel powerful and badass (Motorhead), deathly and evil (Slayer), distressful or loving (The Cure), provoking and thoughtful (The Church), depressed and downtrotten (Alice In Chains).

Seems this discussion is going to go a million ways now lol.TacticalElefant

:lol: Dude...you can describe music anyway you want....I was just stating how I'd not describe two bands.

[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"]
I'm using it broadly as term for "enjoyable". Feeling good or being fulfilling can be the most earsplitting sound ever, but if you revel or relish in it in anyway, I think blissful can be used for describing ones enjoyment with a song. Even something as depressing as Rooster by Alice in Chains can be considered blissful if you enjoy listening to it, even if it only makes you depressed or anything. It serves a psychological need, and fulfilling that need is relieving and enjoyable (no pun intended) .quiglythegreat

You tell me how the Arcade Fire and Modest Mouse are so similar musically. I still can't figure it out.quiglythegreat

Take for instance alot of "indie" music today:

The music is built upon heavy use of sythesizers and continuous, repeating guitars chords, producing a very "melted" together if you will sound that I almost like to describe and liken to that of the juices from a nice steak swirling around your mouth. It's that similar effect, except in your head. I've noticed that it's almost a standard style these days, almost sounding the same throughout music. Now I wonder, is such an overuse and exploitation of such a style shallow, especially when its so similar sounding across multiple bands? Frankly such repetition while can be well orchestrated I think is kinda shallow and sometimes shows a lack in musical skill even though we tend to like it. I do like the melting effect in all it's greatness, but I mean come on let's change up the notes a bit instead of repeating the same damn note 20+ times. It seems Cold Play especially has resorted to this kind of musical make up, but I do understand it's been around since the 80s as well. Then again though, good music in general does really take you somewhere else. LOL I'm surprised the "authority" that is the Church hasn't condemned music for being "hallucinetic" even though they use music in the same fashion to create a feeling of "transcendence" when at a church service or w/e.

TacticalElefant

paragraphs are wonderful things...

But if awe is something to enjoy can't it be blissful? In the end it's about enjoying the experience and the end result even if it makes you sad or what not. You feel fulfilled in some way. Frankly when I was and still do get depressed I listen to Alice in Chains and the Cure alot. I don't feel happy afterwards but it does get me thinking and what not, and I feel fulfilled in some way, even if I'm just as angry with something afterwards or even have my feelings afterward only amplified. Sure awe has its own definition but in the broad spectrum of things, can any word pertaining to pleasure of some kind be used in such a broad sense? I think so, as the author makes his interpretation and others are free to see it that way, see different, or build upon someone elses experience. Maybe the ether or human emotions, thoughts and feelings is way to broad in general to lay down definitions and authoritive descriptions hence why music is such an important part of our lives because we can interpret and enjoy it uniquely?TacticalElefant

I hate new music.rockguy92

[QUOTE="TacticalElefant"]

But if awe is something to enjoy can't it be blissful? In the end it's about enjoying the experience and the end result even if it makes you sad or what not. You feel fulfilled in some way. Frankly when I was and still do get depressed I listen to Alice in Chains and the Cure alot. I don't feel happy afterwards but it does get me thinking and what not, and I feel fulfilled in some way, even if I'm just as angry with something afterwards or even have my feelings afterward only amplified. Sure awe has its own definition but in the broad spectrum of things, can any word pertaining to pleasure of some kind be used in such a broad sense? I think so, as the author makes his interpretation and others are free to see it that way, see different, or build upon someone elses experience. Maybe the ether or human emotions, thoughts and feelings is way to broad in general to lay down definitions and authoritive descriptions hence why music is such an important part of our lives because we can interpret and enjoy it uniquely?quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="rockguy92"]I hate new music.danteswrath2000

Sure.:|

I hate new music.rockguy92

Me too.

Is it just me, or does everything seem...

Cookie cutter now?

Stamped off a production line...

Most the crap I hear now all sounds like A7X or Nickleback....

That is, they seem like the most popular production lines...

But by no means the only molds that gets over used.

[QUOTE="danteswrath2000"][QUOTE="rockguy92"]I hate new music.rockguy92

Sure.:|

[QUOTE="rockguy92"]I hate new music.danteswrath2000

My is just that sad music doesn't help you out emotionally, it doesn't make you not sad anymore.
quiglythegreat

That's not correct...it doesn't help YOU out emotionally...you can't speak for everyone.

The TC is way oversimlifying things. Of course bands in a certain genre (in this case, the ubiquious "indie" genre that gets slapped on anything with a bunch of guys wearing tight jeans) are going to sound the same, but there's a huge difference between bands within a genre. Franz Ferdinand has very little in common with the Arcade Fire. Maybe its just your taste in music or maybe I have better hearing as a musician but I find that many of these bands that get lumped into "indie" music rarely sound similar, or at the very least they all have a unique style.

I find many songs that are not synthesised to provide me with a euphoric feeling... as if talented writing makes up for the lack of technology.foxhound_fox