Liberals?

I'm interested in learning what liberalism is all about and what most liberals think about the issues affecting this country. I'm a firm conservative, but part of being conservative is looking at the issues from both sides so I'd like liberals to sound off on what they believe.

Pick a topic.

Then we can discuss.

Too many things to talk about here, really.

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

MarineJcksn

Withdraw from Iraq immediately because we can't afford the debt we're amassing. Our country isn't going to be around to see us "win" if we keep at it.

Immigration: We need to stop taking in ANY immigrants for at least a decade. Our economy will collapse at our current pace. Watch

Taxes and Government: Less = More freedom so I'm all for it.

Politcal Correctness: Drives me crazy and I go out of my way to offend overly-PC people.

Healthcare: No...the government isn't capable of managing anything...especially the health of its citizens.

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

D9-THC

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

[QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

MarineJcksn

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

You sound like Herman Göring.

"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Herearemy 2 cents:

Ban drugs.

Stay in Iraq.

Decrease defense spending.

A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a fight.

[QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

MarineJcksn

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

D9-THC

Withdraw from Iraq immediately because we can't afford the debt we're amassing. Our country isn't going to be around to see us "win" if we keep at it.

Immigration: We need to stop taking in ANY immigrants for at least a decade. Our economy will collapse at our current pace. Watch

Taxes and Government: Less = More freedom so I'm all for it.

Politcal Correctness: Drives me crazy and I go out of my way to offend overly-PC people.

Healthcare: No...the government isn't capable of managing anything...especially the health of its citizens.

From most of your viewpoints, you actually fall under a conservative midset.

The issue with the debt we're amassing in Iraq definitely needs to be addressed, no question about it. But the truth of the situation is that we've always been in debt, since Ronald Regan took office our nation has been over 1 billion in debt at all times. As much as people try to say that Clinton got us out of debt, it simply isn't true. However, the spending that Bush has done in these past 7 years is out of control.

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

D9-THC

You sound more like a libertarian.

[QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

bacon_is_sweet

You sound more like a libertarian.

I am.

I'm just saying people perceive me as liberal. ;)

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

killtactics

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

The war in Iraq serves as a baseline for winning the war against Al Qaeda. Defeating them in Iraq and Afganistan will have a profound affect on their stance throughout the world, but you're right that it doesn't solve the issue of the terrorists that are already here. That's where stopping illegal immigration comes into play, also weeding out potential terrorists with the support of the FBI, CIA, DIA, and law enforcement.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

MarineJcksn

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

The war in Iraq serves as a baseline for winning the war against Al Qaeda. Defeating them in Iraq and Afganistan will have a profound affect on their stance throughout the world, but you're right that it doesn't solve the issue of the terrorists that are already here. That's where stopping illegal immigration comes into play, also weeding out potential terrorists with the support of the FBI, CIA, DIA, and law enforcement.

That kind of backwards thinking is what got us into this situation in the first place.

Let's change our foreign policies instead...

Liberalism is a right wing ideology, it's basically capitalism applied on society instead of the economic sector.jointed

[QUOTE="jointed"]Liberalism is a right wing ideology, it's basically capitalism applied on society instead of the economic sector.xaos

Doublespeak? What the hell?

A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a fight.

tekmojo

What he said.

[QUOTE="bacon_is_sweet"][QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

D9-THC

You sound more like a libertarian.

I am.

I'm just saying people perceive me as liberal. ;)

lol oh:P

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

jointed

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

The war in Iraq serves as a baseline for winning the war against Al Qaeda. Defeating them in Iraq and Afganistan will have a profound affect on their stance throughout the world, but you're right that it doesn't solve the issue of the terrorists that are already here. That's where stopping illegal immigration comes into play, also weeding out potential terrorists with the support of the FBI, CIA, DIA, and law enforcement.

That kind of backwards thinking is what got us into this situation in the first place.

Let's change our foreign policies instead...

Ok, I'm willing to go with that idea. How should we change our foreign policies?

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

D9-THC

You sound libertarian to me, far from liberal..

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="D9-THC"]

People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

MarineJcksn

I can agree with some issues you addressed, gay marriage is definitely something we need to stop worrying about because its really such a small issue compared to whats really going on. I also like the idea of knocking the IRS off of their pedestal because seriously, why is the money I earn being taxed to provide social security benefits and medicare to old people who I'VE NEVER MET?!?!

The only things I disagree with is legalized drugs, pulling out of Iraqand cutting defense spending. You need to understand that if we show weakness in that region, terrorists WILL follow us here. There's no question. Al Qaeda has an estimated 200 active cells already in the US, we need to take a firm stance and not back down.

Just as an example, look at Hitler We had oportunities to join England and fight Hitler before the Japanese attacked us in 1941. The War had been going on almost 3 years before we got involved and look at the ultimate price payed by the tremendous lives lost. For 3 years, we sat by and tried to help diplomatically and it didn't work.

Listen, nobody wants war, ever. I've been to Iraq twice, it's not something people look forward to. But just because we're not at war does not mean we're at PEACE. Clinton was in office=no major war, right? But Al Qaeda bombed our embassys, the USS Cole and planned 9/11 in that timeframe. It's all I'm saying.

The war in Iraq serves as a baseline for winning the war against Al Qaeda. Defeating them in Iraq and Afganistan will have a profound affect on their stance throughout the world, but you're right that it doesn't solve the issue of the terrorists that are already here. That's where stopping illegal immigration comes into play, also weeding out potential terrorists with the support of the FBI, CIA, DIA, and law enforcement.

That kind of backwards thinking is what got us into this situation in the first place.

Let's change our foreign policies instead...

Ok, I'm willing to go with that idea. How should we change our foreign policies?

Pull the plug on Israel for starters...

I'm guessing Liberals generally take the opposite side of Conservative beliefs? :?Faylette

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

bradleybhoy

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

identitychicken

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

Safe? From what?

[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

identitychicken

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

That's exactly the same excuse the Nazis gave...so please, just cut the crap.

To me liberals dont really see the whole picture, for example they care to much about criminal rights and because on this are crimerate is higher,they out of jail faster, and jails are softer. Thats just one example of how "helping" someone can be harmfull, theres lots more. Centeralism FTW!

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

We should get out soon, but not leave it in complete shambles, it'll just bite us in the ass later down the road

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Definatly on the first, not well informed on the rest.

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Depends on the economic situation

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

WAY too PC, chill out people

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

I'm split on this so i won't give my opinion.

MarineJcksn

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

identitychicken

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

That's exactly the same excuse the Nazis gave...so please, just cut the crap.

I'm not liberal you fool....I'm conservative.

I've never said anything about America being a nazi state, I was just pointing out how much your silly statements reminded me of what the nazis claimed.

Move to Germany? What the hell are you talking about? It's a democratic country...

I'm not the one who's acting like a child mate...

Ignorance is the American conservatives' worst enemy these days...

[QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

jointed

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

That's exactly the same excuse the Nazis gave...so please, just cut the crap.

I'm not liberal you fool....I'm conservative.

I've never said anything about America being a nazi state, I was just pointing out how much your silly statements reminded me of what the nazis claimed.

Move to Germany? What the hell are you talking about? It's a democratic country...

I'm not the one who's acting like a child mate...

Ignorance is the American conservatives' worst enemy these days...

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

identitychicken

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

That's exactly the same excuse the Nazis gave...so please, just cut the crap.

I'm not liberal you fool....I'm conservative.

I've never said anything about America being a nazi state, I was just pointing out how much your silly statements reminded me of what the nazis claimed.

Move to Germany? What the hell are you talking about? It's a democratic country...

I'm not the one who's acting like a child mate...

Ignorance is the American conservatives' worst enemy these days...

Well, you're acting like a child, and if you actually areover 12 years old...you should file a complaint at your old/current school.

[QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="identitychicken"][QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]

Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

jointed

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

That's exactly the same excuse the Nazis gave...so please, just cut the crap.

I'm not liberal you fool....I'm conservative.

I've never said anything about America being a nazi state, I was just pointing out how much your silly statements reminded me of what the nazis claimed.

Move to Germany? What the hell are you talking about? It's a democratic country...

I'm not the one who's acting like a child mate...

Ignorance is the American conservatives' worst enemy these days...

Well, you're acting like a child, and if you actually areover 12 years old...you should file a complaint at your old/current school.

Well I am over the age of 12. School is the one thing i really have a problem w/ in America.

Here's what I think about our foreign policy.

For far too long, the US foreign policy has been broken. I think Woodrow Wilson was the first person to really screw it up for us. He was extremely misguided and gave into an organization (League of Nations) that has evolved into the UN after WWII. The UN is just plain bad. It's a threat to the sovereignty of all nations.

The CIA is another thing I'd really like to change about our foreign policy. Ever since afterWWII, the CIA has been performing ops that continually come back to bite us...it's called "blow back." We performed a coup in Iran in 1953 to prevent PM Mossadeq from nationalizing Iran's oil supply. BP benefited on that deal...but now we deal with a religious extremist government that was able to gain a foothold after we were finished. Saddam was the next great hope for the Middle East. He was praised up and down until he decided to invade Kuwait. We armed him in hopes that he would defeat the Iranians, and then became our enemy when he invaded Kuwait with our weapons; irony much?

Don't even get me started on Israel.

Here's what I think about our foreign policy.

For far too long, the US foreign policy has been broken. I think Woodrow Wilson was the first person to really screw it up for us. He was extremely misguided and gave into an organization (League of Nations) that has evolved into the UN after WWII. The UN is just plain bad. It's a threat to the sovereignty of all nations.

The CIA is another thing I'd really like to change about our foreign policy. Ever since afterWWII, the CIA has been performing ops that continually come back to bite us...it's called "blow back." We performed a coup in Iran in 1953 to prevent PM Mossadeq from nationalizing Iran's oil supply. BP benefited on that deal...but now we deal with a religious extremist government that was able to gain a foothold after we were finished. Saddam was the next great hope for the Middle East. He was praised up and down until he decided to invade Kuwait. We armed him in hopes that he would defeat the Iranians, and then became our enemy when he invaded Kuwait with our weapons; irony much?

Don't even get me started on Israel.

D9-THC

Well, the US was never a member of the League of Nations and how is the UN a threat to a nations sovereignty?

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

D9-THC

Withdraw from Iraq immediately because we can't afford the debt we're amassing. Our country isn't going to be around to see us "win" if we keep at it.

Immigration: We need to stop taking in ANY immigrants for at least a decade. Our economy will collapse at our current pace. Watch

Taxes and Government: Less = More freedom so I'm all for it.

Politcal Correctness: Drives me crazy and I go out of my way to offend overly-PC people.

Healthcare: No...the government isn't capable of managing anything...especially the health of its citizens.

Here's what I think about our foreign policy.

For far too long, the US foreign policy has been broken. I think Woodrow Wilson was the first person to really screw it up for us. He was extremely misguided and gave into an organization (League of Nations) that has evolved into the UN after WWII. The UN is just plain bad. It's a threat to the sovereignty of all nations.

The CIA is another thing I'd really like to change about our foreign policy. Ever since afterWWII, the CIA has been performing ops that continually come back to bite us...it's called "blow back." We performed a coup in Iran in 1953 to prevent PM Mossadeq from nationalizing Iran's oil supply. BP benefited on that deal...but now we deal with a religious extremist government that was able to gain a foothold after we were finished. Saddam was the next great hope for the Middle East. He was praised up and down until he decided to invade Kuwait. We armed him in hopes that he would defeat the Iranians, and then became our enemy when he invaded Kuwait with our weapons; irony much?

Don't even get me started on Israel.

D9-THC

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Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Liberals CARE about OTHER people.

identitychicken

That is what keeps OUR country SAFE!

That's exactly the same excuse the Nazis gave...so please, just cut the crap.

I'm not liberal you fool....I'm conservative.

I've never said anything about America being a nazi state, I was just pointing out how much your silly statements reminded me of what the nazis claimed.

Move to Germany? What the hell are you talking about? It's a democratic country...

I'm not the one who's acting like a child mate...

Ignorance is the American conservatives' worst enemy these days...

Well, you're acting like a child, and if you actually areover 12 years old...you should file a complaint at your old/current school.

Well I am over the age of 12. School is the one thing i really have a problem w/ in America.

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People call me a liberal and here are my beliefs...

Everything should be legal that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Be it gay marriage, abortion, drugs...you name it. I'm not a fan of laws that tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies.

We need to eliminate the IRS and the government. They only seek to control our lives and tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies.

We should pull out of Iraq immediately.

We should eliminate defense spending almost entirely. Get rid of our nukes and our mentality of "police the world!"

What it comes down to for me is the root of the word liberal...and that's liberty.

bacon_is_sweet

You sound more like a libertarian.

I was just about to say the same thing.

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

MarineJcksn

Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

MarineJcksn

Though I don't consider it a war on terror, we should finish what we started and rebuild Iraq. The plans and reasons Bush put forward for Iraq are pretty stupid, but we shouldn't leave these people high and dry and let it become a breeding ground for more anti-American sentiment turned terrorism.

Immigration: We need to cut down on the amount of people immigrating illegaly to this country...fast and hard. They also should not enjoy the same benifits as an American citizen, especially when they aren't paying for taxes.

Taxes and government: I'm all for less taxes and less intrusions on my privacy and rights.

Political Correctness: I understand the need to be politically correct at times, but when that political correctness evolves into an acceptance of things like Ebonics being recognized as a valid writing and speaking form in schools (I'm looking at you, San Fransisco government), then we have a problem. Also, it should never ever come in the way of free speech. Otherwise, it's fine.

Healthcare: No. Universal socialized healthcare will not solve anything in this country.

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Sorry about that, should've picked a few topics to discuss. Ok, let me hear your thoughts on the following topics:

War on Terror: Should we withdraw from Iraq immediately or keep up with the troop surge since it's working?

Immigration: Should we take steps to stop illegal immigration as best we can? Also, how do you feel about sanctuary cities and potential Drivers Licenses for illegal aliens?

Taxes and government: Are tax hikes necessary or should we continue to cut taxes?

Political Correctness: Is this country too PC or not enough?

Healthcare: Should we pursue a Universal Heathcare system?

DivergeUnify

Withdraw from Iraq immediately because we can't afford the debt we're amassing. Our country isn't going to be around to see us "win" if we keep at it.

Immigration: We need to stop taking in ANY immigrants for at least a decade. Our economy will collapse at our current pace. Watch

Taxes and Government: Less = More freedom so I'm all for it.

Politcal Correctness: Drives me crazy and I go out of my way to offend overly-PC people.

Healthcare: No...the government isn't capable of managing anything...especially the health of its citizens.

It's because most conservatives focus on issues that pertain to their religion.