'Liberals' want to give legal non citizens voting rights in local elections.

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#201 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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If that's the case, then there is absolutely no point to being a citizen. If you want to vote in a country's election process, then you should be a citizen of that country. Not a hard concept.

This isn't about voting in the country's election process, it's about voting in the city's election process. Big difference there.

How is that a big difference? Citizen's have the right to vote. Non-citizens don't. If they want to vote, then become a citizen of the intended country.
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The group in question is non-partisan.

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A quick visit to their website certainly suggests otherwise.

Young people tend to bemore liberal, more progressive. That does not mean that they necessarily aling with one party. Now, do you have actual substantive critique of the proposal or is attacking the proposer all you can do?

"You were right" would have sufficed.

My point is that becoming a citizen usually only seems to be an insurmountable roadblock to those who have never gone through the process to do it, whether they're natural born, or like that guy in the article who has lived here 13 years and still hasn't done it.

It's a waste of energy on a non issue, like others have pointed out, if you want a say in government then become a citizen.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

If that's the case, then there is absolutely no point to being a citizen. If you want to vote in a country's election process, then you should be a citizen of that country. Not a hard concept.

sonicare

This isn't about voting in the country's election process, it's about voting in the city's election process. Big difference there.

How is that a big difference? Citizen's have the right to vote. Non-citizens don't. If they want to vote, then become a citizen of the intended country.

It's a big difference because they would be voting on matters that effect the country. Only their city. Things like the local school board, sherrif, local leaders. That's all. They wouldn't be voting on anything that effects anyone outside their city.