These 22 other countries prefer Obama to win over McCain! They say that world condintions are most likley to improve under Obama. So, Obama has the world on his side, what does McCain have on his side?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm
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These 22 other countries prefer Obama to win over McCain! They say that world condintions are most likley to improve under Obama. So, Obama has the world on his side, what does McCain have on his side?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7606100.stm
I'm gonna be voting for Obama, but I really don't think Kenya's support of Obama is gonna mean anything. JML897The support of Obama from any nation isn't going to help him. It could hurt him if anything.
Looks like McCain will lose election in November... Says 22 other counties!!! These 22 other countries prefer Obama to win over McCain!
Raged_Soulja
You do realise that only Americans can vote in the upcoming election, don't you?
EDIT: beaten to the punch by duxup! Grrr!
[QUOTE="JML897"]I'm gonna be voting for Obama, but I really don't think Kenya's support of Obama is gonna mean anything. helium_flashThe support of Obama from any nation isn't going to help him. It could hurt him if anything.
yeah your right, that last thing anybody likes is being told what's right or what's wrong for them, that goes for countries as well.
[QUOTE="JML897"]I'm gonna be voting for Obama, but I really don't think Kenya's support of Obama is gonna mean anything. helium_flashThe support of Obama from any nation isn't going to help him. It could hurt him if anything.
I don't see how it could hurt him...I think it just means absolutely nothing.
I'm fairly sure they don't get to vote, nor do they listen to who we'd like to see voted in.
Having said that we could use some friend making skills from whomever is in office after Bush pissed everyone off.
duxup
Yea, pretty much. Who the hell decided pissing off every country was a good idea? Not going to their party is one thing, but going to school the next day and telling everybody (including them) how much it sucked is another.
Too bad I care about the condition of America before the rest of the world.
Too bad the rest of the world has no say in who we elect as president.
I've seen some reports that the large turnout in Germany during Obama's speech has hurt him stateside.
cametall
To bad we've spent billions of dollars on taking care of the rest of the world. Bringing "freedom" to Iraq and "defeating" the terrorists. While pretty much neglecting our own people.
The support of Obama from any nation isn't going to help him. It could hurt him if anything.[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="JML897"]I'm gonna be voting for Obama, but I really don't think Kenya's support of Obama is gonna mean anything. JML897
I don't see how it could hurt him...I think it just means absolutely nothing.
Obama's trip overseas to Europe hurt him in the polls badly because it showed that Obama was caring more about what they thought than what we thought.Even if it isn't true, it's the perception that matters.
I've seen some reports that the large turnout in Germany during Obama's speech has hurt him stateside.
cametall
It didn't hurt him. It just didn't boost him in the polls like he thought his Rainbow Tour would. And so the Democrats learned that holding expensive political rallies overseas does not boost popularity at home.
[QUOTE="duxup"]I'm fairly sure they don't get to vote, nor do they listen to who we'd like to see voted in.
Having said that we could use some friend making skills from whomever is in office after Bush pissed everyone off.
Video_Game_King
Yea, pretty much. Who the hell decided pissing off every country was a good idea? Not going to their party is one thing, but going to school the next day and telling everybody (including them) how much it sucked is another.
It seems to be arrogance or just short sited attempts to rally political support by that administration.
Teddy Roosevelt had it right. Speak SOFTLY and carry a big stick. No need to piss people off who can help us.
I've seen some reports that the large turnout in Germany during Obama's speech has hurt him stateside.
cametall
Why do some americans think that a President that is liked around the world is a bad thing? we've had 8 years of a president that the world has hated and did his own thing regardless of what the world and even most Americans thought. I think that's enough.
[QUOTE="cametall"]I've seen some reports that the large turnout in Germany during Obama's speech has hurt him stateside.
Ontain
Why do some americans think that a President that is liked around the world is a bad thing? we've had 8 years of a president that the world has hated and did his own thing regardless of what the world and even most Americans thought. I think that's enough.
First of all during this election I can barely give a damn about what some other country thinks about an inexpireneced lying man. My deal is with the economy.... and I would not want to pay any increase in taxes (which would be the typical Obama of liberally taxing everything and ruining our US Economy even more) than what some **** socialist state thinks of our president. Our country should be first not the "oh well the rest of the world likes me" BS while our economy aint doing so well as expected.too bad Obama will only win the popular votes, in the end, it all matters about the electoral college. They will see right though Obama, and go with McCain.CWEBB04zDespite the fact that the US had more Democratic presidents than Republicans....
[QUOTE="Ontain"]First of all during this election I can barely give a damn about what some other country thinks about an inexpireneced lying man. My deal is with the economy.... and I would not want to pay any increase in taxes (which would be the typical Obama of liberally taxing everything and ruining our US Economy even more) than what some **** socialist state thinks of our president. Our country should be first not the "oh well the rest of the world likes me" BS while our economy aint doing so well as expected.Why do some americans think that a President that is liked around the world is a bad thing? we've had 8 years of a president that the world has hated and did his own thing regardless of what the world and even most Americans thought. I think that's enough.
North-North
so... what you're telling me is that you don't actually know much about the economic plans of the candidates beyond the commercials. if anyone is lying it's the McCain campaign when they show middle c1ass americans and say that Obama would raise their taxes. that's false. Obama would actually cut taxes for them more than McCain would. (it's all published you can check for yourself) the only ppl that would get a tax increase would be the top 10%. And those rates would only be going to what they were during Clinton's administration. You know when we were not selling our future away.
sorry but we've had 8 years of big tax cuts for the rich and this is where we're at. the biggest gap between Rich and Poor since the great depression. no thanks, I don't want more of the same.
Re: Tax increases. Thanks to the current administration taxes will be increased.so... what you're telling me is that you don't actually know much about the economic plans of the candidates beyond the commercials. if anyone is lying it's the McCain campaign when they show middle c1ass americans and say that Obama would raise their taxes. that's false. Obama would actually cut taxes for them more than McCain would. (it's all published you can check for yourself) the only ppl that would get a tax increase would be the top 10%. And those rates would only be going to what they were during Clinton's administration. You know when we were not selling our future away.
sorry but we've had 8 years of big tax cuts for the rich and this is where we're at. the biggest gap between Rich and Poor since the great depression. no thanks, I don't want more of the same.
Ontain
[QUOTE="Ontain"]Re: Tax increases. Thanks to the current administration taxes will be increased.so... what you're telling me is that you don't actually know much about the economic plans of the candidates beyond the commercials. if anyone is lying it's the McCain campaign when they show middle c1ass americans and say that Obama would raise their taxes. that's false. Obama would actually cut taxes for them more than McCain would. (it's all published you can check for yourself) the only ppl that would get a tax increase would be the top 10%. And those rates would only be going to what they were during Clinton's administration. You know when we were not selling our future away.
sorry but we've had 8 years of big tax cuts for the rich and this is where we're at. the biggest gap between Rich and Poor since the great depression. no thanks, I don't want more of the same.
LJS9502_basic
I agree. in order to pay for the blunders of the current administration we will need to increase taxes for someone. though McCain's plan is actually to give the rich a bigger break than they currently get from Bush now.
PS. I liked the McCain that said it was irresponsible to cut taxes while going to war. but that was a long time ago(2003) and he's abandoned that idea.
I agree. in order to pay for the blunders of the current administration we will need to increase taxes for someone. though McCain's plan is actually to give the rich a bigger break than they currently get from Bush now. OntainIt is amazing how it seems that the GOP doesn't remember the past and learn from their mistakes. It is either that the GOP is peddling to the lowest common denominator (Upper-Middle class business men) or they haven't learned. Giving tax cuts to the wealthy has worked all 0% of the time. Heck, it has created some of the worst economic problems in our country, and has led to the economic problems that we are having today. I'm not saying the Democrats are better here, because Obama doesn't have a great fiscal plan either. But comparing the two, and from precedents, McCain's plan is bunk. RON PAUL OR BUST.
[QUOTE="Ontain"]I agree. in order to pay for the blunders of the current administration we will need to increase taxes for someone. though McCain's plan is actually to give the rich a bigger break than they currently get from Bush now. VandalvideoIt is amazing how it seems that the GOP doesn't remember the past and learn from their mistakes. It is either that the GOP is peddling to the lowest common denominator (Upper-Middle class business men) or they haven't learned. Giving tax cuts to the wealthy has worked all 0% of the time. Heck, it has created some of the worst economic problems in our country, and has led to the economic problems that we are having today. I'm not saying the Democrats are better here, because Obama doesn't have a great fiscal plan either. But comparing the two, and from precedents, McCain's plan is bunk. RON PAUL OR BUST.
Tax cuts encourage business. Look here in Texas. We have no state income taxes. This was created to help business and encourage other businesses to come here. Texas has a fantastic economy. One of the best in the nation, if not the best.
It is amazing how it seems that the GOP doesn't remember the past and learn from their mistakes. It is either that the GOP is peddling to the lowest common denominator (Upper-Middle class business men) or they haven't learned. Giving tax cuts to the wealthy has worked all 0% of the time. Heck, it has created some of the worst economic problems in our country, and has led to the economic problems that we are having today. I'm not saying the Democrats are better here, because Obama doesn't have a great fiscal plan either. But comparing the two, and from precedents, McCain's plan is bunk. RON PAUL OR BUST.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]I agree. in order to pay for the blunders of the current administration we will need to increase taxes for someone. though McCain's plan is actually to give the rich a bigger break than they currently get from Bush now. The_Mac_Daddy
Tax cuts encourage business. Look here in Texas. We have no state income taxes. This was created to help business and encourage other businesses to come here. Texas has a fantastic economy. One of the best in the nation, if not the best.
oil helps.
[QUOTE="cametall"]Too bad I care about the condition of America before the rest of the world.
Too bad the rest of the world has no say in who we elect as president.
I've seen some reports that the large turnout in Germany during Obama's speech has hurt him stateside.
munu9
To bad we've spent billions of dollars on taking care of the rest of the world. Bringing "freedom" to Iraq and "defeating" the terrorists. While pretty much neglecting our own people.
We bring freedom to another country and we're still hated by the world.
Neglecting our own people? How? Last time I saw we still had a high standard of living. Oh, I see where this is going, you want nationalized healthcare.
The rest of the world LOVES when the USA has a democrat in power.. why? Because they are usually soft. Other countries get brave when we have a democrat in power. When a republican is in office, they watch what they do because a republican won't hesitate to take military action. Remember the VERY DAY that Reagan was elected into office..? Remember what happened?The_Mac_Daddy
sigh...the Ayatollah has said that he deliberatley let the hostages go the day Reagan was elected as his last "F you" to Carter. Keep in mind that it was Reagan who pulled US troops out of Lebanon, essentially telling terrorist organizations that suicide bombings are highly effective agaisnt the west.
[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]It is amazing how it seems that the GOP doesn't remember the past and learn from their mistakes. It is either that the GOP is peddling to the lowest common denominator (Upper-Middle class business men) or they haven't learned. Giving tax cuts to the wealthy has worked all 0% of the time. Heck, it has created some of the worst economic problems in our country, and has led to the economic problems that we are having today. I'm not saying the Democrats are better here, because Obama doesn't have a great fiscal plan either. But comparing the two, and from precedents, McCain's plan is bunk. RON PAUL OR BUST.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]I agree. in order to pay for the blunders of the current administration we will need to increase taxes for someone. though McCain's plan is actually to give the rich a bigger break than they currently get from Bush now. comp_atkins
Tax cuts encourage business. Look here in Texas. We have no state income taxes. This was created to help business and encourage other businesses to come here. Texas has a fantastic economy. One of the best in the nation, if not the best.
oil helps.
Sure. But every state has their business field of expertise.
Tax cuts encourage business. Look here in Texas. We have no state income taxes. This was created to help business and encourage other businesses to come here. Texas has a fantastic economy. One of the best in the nation, if not the best.The_Mac_DaddyIs what you may think, but history serves to act as a warning for that line of thought. Every time tax cuts have been given to the upper middle class there have been dire ramifications on our economy. This is illustrated in the current problems facing major firms like Fannie May and Freedie Mack. Our economy right now is in dire straits, and economies of the past, when tax cuts were given to the wealthy, have been in dire straits as well. I don't understand why we should continue to support obviously flawed economic plans that have a LONG history of failing.
The rest of the world LOVES when the USA has a democrat in power.. why? Because they are usually soft. Other countries get brave when we have a democrat in power. When a republican is in office, they watch what they do because a republican won't hesitate to take military action. Remember the VERY DAY that Reagan was elected into office..? Remember what happened?The_Mac_Daddy
we traded arms for prisoners?
a president that doesn't hesitate to take military action is one i don't want in office. military action is a last resort only.
[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]The rest of the world LOVES when the USA has a democrat in power.. why? Because they are usually soft. Other countries get brave when we have a democrat in power. When a republican is in office, they watch what they do because a republican won't hesitate to take military action. Remember the VERY DAY that Reagan was elected into office..? Remember what happened?Sajo7
sigh...the Ayatollah has said that he deliberatley let the hostages go the day Reagan was elected as his last "F you" to Carter. Keep in mind that it was Reagan who pulled US troops out of Lebanon, essentially telling terrorist organizations that suicide bombings are highly effective agaisnt the west.
Why would letting the hostages go give an F you to Carter?
[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]Tax cuts encourage business. Look here in Texas. We have no state income taxes. This was created to help business and encourage other businesses to come here. Texas has a fantastic economy. One of the best in the nation, if not the best.VandalvideoIs what you may think, but history serves to act as a warning for that line of thought. Every time tax cuts have been given to the upper middle class there have been dire ramifications on our economy. This is illustrated in the current problems facing major firms like Fannie May and Freedie Mack. Our economy right now is in dire straits, and economies of the past, when tax cuts were given to the wealthy, have been in dire straits as well. I don't understand why we should continue to support obviously flawed economic plans that have a LONG history of failing.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are completely different issues to what you are talking about.
[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]The rest of the world LOVES when the USA has a democrat in power.. why? Because they are usually soft. Other countries get brave when we have a democrat in power. When a republican is in office, they watch what they do because a republican won't hesitate to take military action. Remember the VERY DAY that Reagan was elected into office..? Remember what happened?The_Mac_Daddy
sigh...the Ayatollah has said that he deliberatley let the hostages go the day Reagan was elected as his last "F you" to Carter. Keep in mind that it was Reagan who pulled US troops out of Lebanon, essentially telling terrorist organizations that suicide bombings are highly effective agaisnt the west.
Why would letting the hostages go give an F you to Carter?
You're a fine example of this. It gave the image that Carter failed to free the hostages.
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