Mammoths might roam the earth again!

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#1 Aftermath91
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Just something cool I just read, would love to see a real life Mammoth....really tiny chance of it happening though but it's crazy how they can just clone something from a single cell.


"The discovery of well-preserved woolly mammoth remains in eastern Siberia has raised distant hopes that the animal could be cloned.

A Russian-led team of international scientists found intact cells among remains including hair and bone marrow.

In theory, the animal - which died out between 10,000 and 4,000 years ago - could be recreated if living cells are discovered among the remains."

"All we need for cloning is one living cell, which means it can reproduce autonomously. Then it will be no problem for us to multiply them to tens of thousands cells," Semyon Grigoryev, a professor at North-East Federal University (NEFU), told Reuters.

Laboratory research is now said to be under way to determine whether there are living cells among the remains.

But Mr Grigoryev admitted the chances were slim.

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Flying mammoths? No thanks.

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#3 Phaze-Two
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Flying mammoths? No thanks.

leviathan91

what?

and btw: ive been hearing about the jurassic park mammoth things for years now. i'll believe it when i see it.

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Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead.
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Just......no.
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YES
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Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. SaintLeonidas
You just haven't had Mammoth meat yet. Oh god the hair.
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Have these scientists never seen Jurassic Park or any of the lackluster sequels?

Honestly, if they opened a park (zoo) where living mammoths dwelled, would you go to see them?

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Have these scientists never seen Jurassic Park or any of the lackluster sequels?

Honestly, if they opened a park (zoo) where living mammoths dwelled, would you go to see them?

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If I were near I would, would be pretty cool to see a formally completely extinct species alive.
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Have these scientists never seen Jurassic Park or any of the lackluster sequels?

Honestly, if they opened a park (zoo) where living mammoths dwelled, would you go to see them?

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Yes. I honestly would. 1). This is something that has been extinct for thousands of years and as such there's billions of people between now and then who haven't seen them. We could be the first generational group to witness them. 2). We brought a dead species back to life from a cell. Either of those is more than enough to justify admission to me. Not only that but it means we could possibly start bringing back other dead species. Think of the science to be had!
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Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. SaintLeonidas

lol so much ignorance in a single post. God didn't kill off the mammoths, but i'd guess you also think God killed off the dodos.

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Could've swore I saw a few of those irl already at the beach yesterday...

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[QUOTE="BlendThree"]

Have these scientists never seen Jurassic Park or any of the lackluster sequels?

Honestly, if they opened a park (zoo) where living mammoths dwelled, would you go to see them?

Ace6301

Yes. I honestly would. 1). This is something that has been extinct for thousands of years and as such there's billions of people between now and then who haven't seen them. We could be the first generational group to witness them. 2). We brought a dead species back to life from a cell. Either of those is more than enough to justify admission to me. Not only that but it means we could possibly start bringing back other dead species. Think of the science to be had!

This

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Doubt they will find any living cells... As for using dead cells. It can be done, but it is one major puzzle.
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. tenaka2

lol so much ignorance in a single post. God didn't kill off the mammoths, but i'd guess you also think God killed off the dodos.

How do you know he was serious? Think first. And so what if he does?
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Why would there be a living cell in a corpse that has been basically frozen for millennia? Also, there are over ten trillion human cells and a hundred trillion foreign cells in the average human, "tens of thousands of cells" isn't going to be enough to recreate an animal that outmasses the average person by like 100 times.

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Why would there be a living cell in a corpse that has been basically frozen for millennia? Also, there are over ten trillion human cells and a hundred trillion foreign cells in the average human, "tens of thousands of cells" isn't going to be enough to recreate an animal that outmasses the average person by like 100 times.

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Copying the cells to begin with is a good start. Though I doubt they will ever find one alive, as the cell wall will most likely have erupted because of the internal water expanding when it froze to ice.
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How about buffalo? American buffalo, bring them back too..
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. TheWalkingGhost

lol so much ignorance in a single post. God didn't kill off the mammoths, but i'd guess you also think God killed off the dodos.

How do you know he was serious? Think first. And so what if he does?

Well if he wasnt serious then I missed the sarcasm, in my defence it is rather early and I may not have been fully awake at the time.

Humans killed off the mammoths, I find it annoying then people attribute human actions to god.

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How about buffalo? American buffalo, bring them back too..Dogswithguns

They may not have frozen buffalo.

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[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

Why would there be a living cell in a corpse that has been basically frozen for millennia? Also, there are over ten trillion human cells and a hundred trillion foreign cells in the average human, "tens of thousands of cells" isn't going to be enough to recreate an animal that outmasses the average person by like 100 times.

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Copying the cells to begin with is a good start. Though I doubt they will ever find one alive, as the cell wall will most likely have erupted because of the internal water expanding when it froze to ice.

Cells of animals don't have cell walls, and I'm not sure that the expansion of the ice would have been rapid and violent enough to burst the membrane. However, cells have a limit amount of divisions that they can go through as a result of the limited supply of telomerase, and if a living cell has lasted this long they won't be able to get a very long-lived mammoth out of cloning it.

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Why? just for the accomplishment of bringing an extinct animal back to life? They may have to simulate the environment where the mammoths used to live in to keep them alive, they will never be able to live in the wild world.

is it really worth it?

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Cells of animals don't have cell walls, and I'm not sure that the expansion of the ice would have been rapid and violent enough to burst the membrane. However, cells have a limit amount of divisions that they can go through as a result of the limited supply of telomerase, and if a living cell has lasted this long they won't be able to get a very long-lived mammoth out of cloning it.

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Cell membrane was the word I was looking for. Figured you would understand it if I said cell wall. I know that too, but if they get the DNA, they can insert it into an egg of the closest living relative to the mammoth, that can create a living mammoth. Or they can make the few cells they find cancerous. They tend to live on and on.
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Why? just for the accomplishment of bringing an extinct animal back to life? They may have to simulate the environment where the mammoths used to live in to keep them alive, they will never be able to live in the wild world.

is it really worth it?

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mammoths only went extinct somewhat recently, I imagine some regions would be fine, perhaps northern russia or siberia? Only a guessing though.

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Until they make humanoid dinosaurs who walk around living there lives amongst us I'm not interested.

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[QUOTE="OrianaDorta"]

Why? just for the accomplishment of bringing an extinct animal back to life? They may have to simulate the environment where the mammoths used to live in to keep them alive, they will never be able to live in the wild world.

is it really worth it?

tenaka2

mammoths only went extinct somewhat recently, I imagine some regions would be fine, perhaps northern russia or siberia? Only a guessing though.

we're going thorugh a climate change now they should think about those factors first before trying to bring mammoths back to life.

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[QUOTE="Dogswithguns"]How about buffalo? American buffalo, bring them back too..tenaka2

They may not have frozen buffalo.

They don't need frozen ones. Thawed out American bisons are still walking around.
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. tenaka2

lol so much ignorance in a single post. God didn't kill off the mammoths, but i'd guess you also think God killed off the dodos.

This is great. I don't even need to post a gif, I can let my sig do the talking.
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I would prefer a T-Rex. Anyway, it won't take long until they start cloning endangered species like pandas and snow cats.

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Can't we bring back Big L first?
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. SaintLeonidas

lol so much ignorance in a single post. God didn't kill off the mammoths, but i'd guess you also think God killed off the dodos.

This is great. I don't even need to post a gif, I can let my sig do the talking.

rofl
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol so much ignorance in a single post. God didn't kill off the mammoths, but i'd guess you also think God killed off the dodos.

MrPraline

This is great. I don't even need to post a gif, I can let my sig do the talking.

rofl

Dont blame me I thought he was serious :)

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living cells in a dead animal?

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If it was cloned, wouldn't it.. you know.. just die again? It's not like we could repopulate the species; at most, we could study it, but that would have limited results, as it wouldn't be in its natural environment, and it wouldn't have others to interact with.

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Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. SaintLeonidas
god didn't do it, we hunted them to extinction.

and i want them back because they sound delicious.

if you are so tasty people with sticks eliminated your entire species, then i want me some of that.

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I would prefer a T-Rex. Anyway, it won't take long until they start cloning endangered species like pandas and snow cats.

Ricardomz
Even if the technology was there, it was be unlike to bring back an endangered species and repopulate because of the genetic uniformity of the clones. Too many deleterious mutations would like result.
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If it was cloned, wouldn't it.. you know.. just die again? It's not like we could repopulate the species; at most, we could study it, but that would have limited results, as it wouldn't be in its natural environment, and it wouldn't have others to interact with.

Sword-Demon

Make millions of clones.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

If it was cloned, wouldn't it.. you know.. just die again? It's not like we could repopulate the species; at most, we could study it, but that would have limited results, as it wouldn't be in its natural environment, and it wouldn't have others to interact with.

ThePoliteArtist

Make millions of clones.

that wouldn't exactly solve the issue, since they'd still have no way to reproduce :?
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Oh great another couple ton mouth to feed. God killed them off for a reason. Let them stay dead. SaintLeonidas

I think we killed them to feed ourselves. Least we can do is bring them back to kill them once more.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

If it was cloned, wouldn't it.. you know.. just die again? It's not like we could repopulate the species; at most, we could study it, but that would have limited results, as it wouldn't be in its natural environment, and it wouldn't have others to interact with.

ThePoliteArtist

Make millions of clones.

You can't repopulate with so little genetic variations.
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Doubt they will find any living cells... As for using dead cells. It can be done, but it is one major puzzle. horgen123
They have already found live cells........ thats what gave them the inspiration to do this.
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How are they going to find a living cell in a dead organism?
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[QUOTE="horgen123"]Doubt they will find any living cells... As for using dead cells. It can be done, but it is one major puzzle. Kevlar101
They have already found live cells........ thats what gave them the inspiration to do this.

They have not according to the article.. :?
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[QUOTE="ThePoliteArtist"]

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

If it was cloned, wouldn't it.. you know.. just die again? It's not like we could repopulate the species; at most, we could study it, but that would have limited results, as it wouldn't be in its natural environment, and it wouldn't have others to interact with.

NEWMAHAY

Make millions of clones.

You can't repopulate with so little genetic variations.

Clone the clones.

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Why must we try and play god with this sh!t? They're dead for a reason...just because you can (or might in this case) doesn't mean you should.
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That would be epic if they roamed the Earth again!