Mars curiosity sadface. Really sadface.

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#1 fraylimon
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19407396

Anyone else feel deeply sad? as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced?

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NASA scientists put freaking robots on Mars, and you've lost faith in humanity because they happen to think will.i.am's music was appropriate? These are some of the smartest and most accomplished people on Earth, they spend their time exploring other planets, and you have the nerve to look down on them because they like will.i.am.?
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#3 cfstar
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NASA scientists put freaking robots on Mars, and you've lost faith in humanity because they happen to think will.i.am's music was appropriate? These are some of the smartest and most accomplished people on Earth, they spend their time exploring other planets, and you have the nerve to look down on them because they like will.i.am.?MrGeezer
Well, yeah.
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#4 BiancaDK
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i have the same pants as will.i.am
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#5 fraylimon
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I highly doubt it was the engineers choice. If it was i guess thats the kinda music they like, which im not fussed about. What makes me sad is the idea that the first piece of music to be sent to another planet is this? Why not a better piece of music? Something to show of our talent as a race? or even just a better song by a more talented artist would suffice. We have plenty of amazing songs in history. Why a song by him? Becuse he has a charity and wants publicity? Its just a huge shame. Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan. What he said when he took his first steps was a huge thing and will be remembered forever. I have a massive respect for everyone at NASA. Thats why I am so dissapointed. I'd die if all my hard work went into that mission to see that happen to it. Charity or no charity.

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I highly doubt it was the engineers choice. If it was i guess thats the kinda music they like, which im not fussed about. What makes me sad is the idea that the first piece of music to be sent to another planet is this? Why not a better piece of music? Something to show of our talent as a race? or even just a better song by a more talented artist would suffice. We have plenty of amazing songs in history. Why a song by him? Becuse he has a charity and wants publicity? Its just a huge shame. Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan. What he said when he took his first steps was a huge thing and will be remembered forever. I have a massive respect for everyone at NASA. Thats why I am so dissapointed. I'd die if all my hard work went into that mission to see that happen to it. Charity or no charity.

fraylimon

When you build your own rover and send it to Mars you can send any piece of music by any musician you want.

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I highly doubt it was the engineers choice. If it was i guess thats the kinda music they like, which im not fussed about. What makes me sad is the idea that the first piece of music to be sent to another planet is this? Why not a better piece of music? Something to show of our talent as a race? or even just a better song by a more talented artist would suffice. We have plenty of amazing songs in history. Why a song by him? Becuse he has a charity and wants publicity? Its just a huge shame. Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan. What he said when he took his first steps was a huge thing and will be remembered forever. I have a massive respect for everyone at NASA. Thats why I am so dissapointed. I'd die if all my hard work went into that mission to see that happen to it. Charity or no charity.

fraylimon
Well, once you send your robot to Mars, you can get it to play back whatever music you want. In the meantime, all you're doing is whining about how much will.i.am sucks. Also, you're acting as if that was the freaking point of the mission, or something. Who gives a $*** what music the robot played, that doesn't matter one ****ing bit.
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I highly doubt it was the engineers choice. If it was i guess thats the kinda music they like, which im not fussed about. What makes me sad is the idea that the first piece of music to be sent to another planet is this? Why not a better piece of music? Something to show of our talent as a race? or even just a better song by a more talented artist would suffice. We have plenty of amazing songs in history. Why a song by him? Becuse he has a charity and wants publicity? Its just a huge shame. Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan. What he said when he took his first steps was a huge thing and will be remembered forever. I have a massive respect for everyone at NASA. Thats why I am so dissapointed. I'd die if all my hard work went into that mission to see that happen to it. Charity or no charity.

fraylimon
well, its not the 1st piece of music to be sent to another planet, its the 1st piece of music broadcasted from another planet, to earth we've been broadcasting our music out into space since your granddads hay-days
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#9 juden41
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The artist of the song is an insignificant detail.
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I highly doubt it was the engineers choice. If it was i guess thats the kinda music they like, which im not fussed about. What makes me sad is the idea that the first piece of music to be sent to another planet is this? Why not a better piece of music? Something to show of our talent as a race? or even just a better song by a more talented artist would suffice. We have plenty of amazing songs in history. Why a song by him? Becuse he has a charity and wants publicity? Its just a huge shame. Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan. What he said when he took his first steps was a huge thing and will be remembered forever. I have a massive respect for everyone at NASA. Thats why I am so dissapointed. I'd die if all my hard work went into that mission to see that happen to it. Charity or no charity.

fraylimon
...and there lacks the motivation to fund such things like in those older days. Sure as hell wasn't for exploration. A lot of it was epeen, basically a middle finger to the USSR. You do understand that right? The engineers and whatnot give two craps about that music. It helped get it there. They NEED funding for such expensive endevors. A moral compass and dignity are often a luxery in this type of thing when it comes down to funding or ending a outer space exploration project.
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#11 JigglyWiggly_
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ew

put this

this specifically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKYXOobaceQ

or at least mr w0lfgang amadeus if ur gona be srs

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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] ...and there lacks the motivation to fund such things like in those older days. Sure as hell wasn't for exploration. A lot of it was epeen, basically a middle finger to the USSR. You do understand that right? The engineers and whatnot give two craps about that music. It helped get it there. They NEED funding for such expensive endevors. A moral compass and dignity are often a luxery in this type of thing when it comes down to funding or ending a outer space exploration project.

Exactly. Broadcasting any music at all accomplishes nothing in terms of scientific discovery. It's just a symbolic gesture meant to get public support, sort of like putting a flag on the moon. In terms of the actual mission, it doesn't matter what song they broadcast back to Earth, and it doesn't even matter if they broadcast back a song at all. The fact that the TC is so angry that they used a will.i.am song should in fact be all the explanation needed for WHY they used a will.i.am song. If he gives that much of a **** over what's basically a mere PR move, then he's basically of the exact same mindset as the kind of person who'd support NASA over something so pointless. His outrage over that validates the idea that the public actually cares about such a meaningless gesture, and that's all the explanation one needs for why they'd choose a dumb pop song.
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#13 fraylimon
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[QUOTE="fraylimon"]

I highly doubt it was the engineers choice. If it was i guess thats the kinda music they like, which im not fussed about. What makes me sad is the idea that the first piece of music to be sent to another planet is this? Why not a better piece of music? Something to show of our talent as a race? or even just a better song by a more talented artist would suffice. We have plenty of amazing songs in history. Why a song by him? Becuse he has a charity and wants publicity? Its just a huge shame. Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan. What he said when he took his first steps was a huge thing and will be remembered forever. I have a massive respect for everyone at NASA. Thats why I am so dissapointed. I'd die if all my hard work went into that mission to see that happen to it. Charity or no charity.

CreasianDevaili

...and there lacks the motivation to fund such things like in those older days. Sure as hell wasn't for exploration. A lot of it was epeen, basically a middle finger to the USSR. You do understand that right? The engineers and whatnot give two craps about that music. It helped get it there. They NEED funding for such expensive endevors. A moral compass and dignity are often a luxery in this type of thing when it comes down to funding or ending a outer space exploration project.

Yea I guess you're right. It just took away the magic for me and a lot of people around me when it was on the radio yesterday. Neil Armstrong dies and we broadcast a Will.i.am song to mars instead of one with impact and history. If I was Will.i.am I'd feel kind of ashamed. I know it didn't actually play and the song doesn't seem to matter. It just seems sad. Like space isn't special anymore. We don't care what we do up there now.

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#14 MrGeezer
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We don't care what we do up there now. fraylimon
Speak for yourself, dude. YOU are the one complaining about the freaking song instead of talking about what they're actually learning up there. If you're gonna complain about some kind of lowering of standards or not giving a $***, or something like that, then you need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you care about the song at all. You're being the exact same kind of person you're complaining about.
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#15 fraylimon
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I caere about everything they're doing up there, which is why that annoys me. If I didn't care about the mission at all I certainly wouldn't care about the song. It's not so much the song I hate. It's just what it symbolises. That rover is amazing. It's collecting and analysing things we'll never see in person. All but a select few potentially anyway. Truely magnificent. It just feels like kind of a cheap, opportunistic move. I would never feel that my songs were important enough to travel somwhere for the first time and be witnessed globally. Where is the modesty? Does space humble everyone but Will.i.am?

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Why not Mozart, Beethoven or Bach? Why not Gustav Holst's "Mars"? I swear if Mars doesn't become the automatic theme of the Intergalactic Human Navy I'm going to come back and haunt their asses.
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I don't get the purpose considering there is no speakers on the rover. What is awesome is some of the pics. I could stare at them for hours. They're amazing.

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I don't get the purpose considering there is no speakers on the rover. What is awesome is some of the pics. I could stare at them for hours. They're amazing.

junglist101

Love me some space exploration pics. Nothing has beat Hubble pics for me, though :P

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not at all. I am not that kind of person
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#20 l34052
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I heard that the next mission's rover will be making and selling burgers......

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#21 l34052
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I heard that the next mission's rover will be making and selling burgers......

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#22 mattisgod01
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While it is not my preferred choice of music, That being said, My preferred music would not be my preferred choice either, They didn't spend millions of man hours and Billions of dollars in order to send music to an uninhabited planet. Their scientific research is of a much greater, And deservedly so, collective interest and admiration. What draws my attention is the evident undertone of necessary while unfortunate reasoning. Among the General population of Western Democracies, Science and more broadly, Events of greater importance are not at the forefront of our majority interest, We fixate on the conspicuous to a fault and are often ignorant of the transcendent. Especially in the field of science and technology.

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#23 GIJames248
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Why not Mozart, Beethoven or Bach? Why not Gustav Holst's "Mars"? I swear if Mars doesn't become the automatic theme of the Intergalactic Human Navy I'm going to come back and haunt their asses.Ace6301

Good grief, I totally forgot about Holst. I agree. The UN needs to mandate that all space travel will be accompanied by appropriate musical selections from 'The Planets' in the future.

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Curiosity really paves the way for scientific evolution and discovery; history has proven it. But, remember, curiosity may kill the cat.
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#25 tocool340
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19407396

Anyone else feel deeply sad? as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced?

fraylimon

*pic*

Is this what your talking about? No wonder the screams turned into a sadfsce....

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#26 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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I don't get the purpose considering there is no speakers on the rover. What is awesome is some of the pics. I could stare at them for hours. They're amazing.

junglist101

It was broadcasting the song so that it was played back on Earth. I think it was a way for them to test their signal to see how clear the sound comes out.

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#27 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="junglist101"]

I don't get the purpose considering there is no speakers on the rover. What is awesome is some of the pics. I could stare at them for hours. They're amazing.

toast_burner

It was broadcasting the song so that it was played back on Earth. I think it was a way for them to test their signal to see how clear the sound comes out.

I doubt it. The song is just data, and the rover is obviously capable of sending back data to earth. The only reason to do it at all is as some kind of BS symbolic gesture ("this is the first song ever broadcast from Mars!")
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

I don't get the purpose considering there is no speakers on the rover. What is awesome is some of the pics. I could stare at them for hours. They're amazing.

MrGeezer

It was broadcasting the song so that it was played back on Earth. I think it was a way for them to test their signal to see how clear the sound comes out.

I doubt it. The song is just data, and the rover is obviously capable of sending back data to earth. The only reason to do it at all is as some kind of BS symbolic gesture ("this is the first song ever broadcast from Mars!")

Despite writing a massive essay on how data is sent and recieved, I still know nothing about it. No idea how I passed that course.

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#29 fraylimon
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Why not Mozart, Beethoven or Bach? Why not Gustav Holst's "Mars"? I swear if Mars doesn't become the automatic theme of the Intergalactic Human Navy I'm going to come back and haunt their asses.GIJames248

Good grief, I totally forgot about Holst. I agree. The UN needs to mandate that all space travel will be accompanied by appropriate musical selections from 'The Planets' in the future.

Thats exactly what I said lol. It would have been much better to give the honor (small as it may seem) to someone who spent their time working on masterpieces dedicated to the stars dead or alive. Rather than a random pop star who simply has the money to put his song up there.

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Despite writing a massive essay on how data is sent and recieved, I still know nothing about it. No idea how I passed that course. toast_burner
I don't know either, but it's probably just sent back to Earth in the form of radio waves or some other part of the electromagnetic spectrum. In any case, if they're already getting data from Mars (and they clearly are), then there's no scientific reason for broadcasting a song at all. Any form of transmission that they're using is gonna work just as well for music, there's no need to even test that. And if they're testing out some new means of transmission, they could just as easily try that out with the data that they're already sending back...there'd be no need to even bring music into things at all. All it is is just some sort of symbolic milestone done for the purpose of making space look cool again.
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#31 Jackc8
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So what the hell, they put an MP3 of some song on the Mars rover's computer and then transmitted it back to earth? What a complete freakin' waste of time. Isn't the successful landing on Mars enough to keep those people happy and motivated without this stupid junk?

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Despite writing a massive essay on how data is sent and recieved, I still know nothing about it. No idea how I passed that course. MrGeezer
I don't know either, but it's probably just sent back to Earth in the form of radio waves or some other part of the electromagnetic spectrum. In any case, if they're already getting data from Mars (and they clearly are), then there's no scientific reason for broadcasting a song at all. Any form of transmission that they're using is gonna work just as well for music, there's no need to even test that. And if they're testing out some new means of transmission, they could just as easily try that out with the data that they're already sending back...there'd be no need to even bring music into things at all. All it is is just some sort of symbolic milestone done for the purpose of making space look cool again.

Well, i does need to look cool again. In the 50s and 60s, the US made sure education systems focused on science and space exploration (also with the help of the cold war), and look where it got humanity....from a speech about the moon to landing on the moon in 8 years, all with sh!tty computers and new strange technology in travel. Now less and less students are caring about the sciences...it could use a boost.

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]NASA scientists put freaking robots on Mars, and you've lost faith in humanity because they happen to think will.i.am's music was appropriate? These are some of the smartest and most accomplished people on Earth, they spend their time exploring other planets, and you have the nerve to look down on them because they like will.i.am.?cfstar
Well, yeah.

lol
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Lolwut? You are seriously being this petty?
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Should have gone with Austrian Death Machine's "Come on Cohaagen, Give Deez People Ehyar".
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My god, is there anything people won't criticize nowadays?

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#37 worlock77
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Personally I think the song choice should have been 'I Stuck Her With My Wang' by ICP.

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#38 Overlord93
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i have the same pants as will.i.amBiancaDK
Must be difficult to both fit in there or do you take turns?
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They should of played Gucci Mane, or Waka. Now that woulda been the sh*t.

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Well that would proof without shadow of a doubt that there's no intelligent life on Earth.
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#41 SUD123456
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A reasonably popular guy writes a song specifically to celebrate this mission as a tribute and as part of a fun publicity stunt. A stunt which in part is to make the NASA people feel good since it is a song specifically about their accomplishment....and the artist gets criticized.

No F bombs in the lyrics. No warddrobe malfunctions. Who cares if the song is actually any good, or who wrote it? Way to completely miss the point.

WTF is wrong with some of you peeps?

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#42 Leejjohno
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A reasonably popular guy writes a song specifically to celebrate this mission as a tribute and as part of a fun publicity stunt. A stunt which in part is to make the NASA people feel good since it is a song specifically about their accomplishment....and the artist gets criticized.

No F bombs in the lyrics. No warddrobe malfunctions. Who cares if the song is actually any good, or who wrote it? Way to completely miss the point.

WTF is wrong with some of you peeps?

SUD123456

Maybe I'm looking to far into it but I sense that the OP was just trying to score popularity points.Sorry whoever the OP is but that's just the way it looks. :P

Seriously though, if it was possible some music that is historically or culturally significant would have been more appropriate.

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#43 Saturos3091
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NASA scientists put freaking robots on Mars, and you've lost faith in humanity because they happen to think will.i.am's music was appropriate? These are some of the smartest and most accomplished people on Earth, they spend their time exploring other planets, and you have the nerve to look down on them because they like will.i.am.?MrGeezer
Definitely gives me the right to look down on their music taste at least. :P [QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"] The engineers and whatnot give two craps about that music. It helped get it there. They NEED funding for such expensive endevors. A moral compass and dignity are often a luxery in this type of thing when it comes down to funding or ending a outer space exploration project.

I was going to say something like this, but yeah it all comes down to funding the project. The music is an irrelevant detail really. It's not like they were sending it so that another species could listen to our (very poor in the case of Will.I.Am) attempts at music.
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#44 soulless4now
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Meh.

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Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan.

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If Armstrong's first words on the moon was: "Ba Da Ba Ba Ba, I'm lovin' it." I think I could then die as the happiest person in the universe.

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[QUOTE="fraylimon"]Its like Neil Armstrong getting up there and the first thing he said was a mcdonalds slogan.

Jazz_Fan

If Armstrong's first words on the moon was: "Ba Da Ba Ba Ba, I'm lovin' it." I think I could then die as the happiest person in the universe.

And he also puts up a starbucks flag