I am not sure if this one has passed through OT Discussion recently, but to those who have not seen the Max Payne movie, find a better way to spend your night. As a movie based on a game, it is horrible. As a movie by itself, it is horrible. I can't count the number of times I wanted to walk out of the theater in sheer disappointment. I have loved and beaten both games numerous times, and with the exception of names and a bit of story, the movie pretty much creates its own downward spiral of a viewing experience. CHARACTERS: Mark Wahlberg does a pretty good Max Payne. Hes tough, gritty, reserved, and pretty much a run of the mill badass. I have nothing against Ludacris, but as Jim Bravura, his character is a joke. In the game, Mona Sax was very independent and usually charged into the fire head on with Payne following behind. In the movie, Sax is a bit too mellow, and with the exception of 1 or 2 action scenes, she really takes too much of a backseat role considering how important of a person she is to Max in the game. STORY: Max Payne loosely follows the plot of what I think is mostly the first game. Max is on the hunt for the man who killed his wife and child, and along the way, he finds connections between her murder and a drug coined "V". In the movie, the drug is the result of failed military super soldier experiments fallen into the wrong hands. Those who take it gain ridiculous amounts of focus, strength, and momentum..... with an extreme side effect of seeing large bird/angel people and fire in the sky...yea... I said it. Where the game focused more or less on a gritty story of the New York American dream gone wrong, the movie focus's more on a murder mystery and lots of hallucinogenic drugs that gets goofier and goofier as time goes on. OVERALL: I could go on and on about how much I disliked this movie, but in truth, its only hurting me more to think about it. The crazy angel/bird plot completely drags down what is already a completely mediocre detective story lacking in "bullet time" action sequences and well.... action sequences in general. You can see where someone was beginning to piece together a perfect re-creation of the game but somehow fell off the deep end and failed miserably. Do yourself a favor and put your $9 movie ticket toward a copy of the game. It'll be more enjoyable and will last far longer.
Movies based on games are an almost immediate fail. I really didn't expect anything different from this.Bigg_Boi
While this is definitely true, it never hurts to hope that a select few will break the stereotype. Resident Evil wasn't all bad and DOOM was OK even if it had almost nothing to do with the video game.
So Valkyr was their way of justifying the "bullet time" effect? Why not just use the effect and call it cinematography? Ugh...foxhound_fox
I honestly couldn't tell. There were only a couple of slow down points in the movie. The Valkyr drug just made people freak out and see killer bird people and flaming snow.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So Valkyr was their way of justifying the "bullet time" effect? Why not just use the effect and call it cinematography? Ugh...Greatgone12
Because fantasy films need to be logical.A man can only suspend his disbelief for so much...
Because fantasy films need to be logical.Greatgone12
Well of course... since it was never explained in the game and was just a function of the gameplay, it obviously has to be explained in the film and made contextually sound with the plot... :roll:
I hate Hollywood.
I honestly couldn't tell. There were only a couple of slow down points in the movie. The Valkyr drug just made people freak out and see killer bird people and flaming snow.TheXboxgamer73
It sounds worse than I had ever previously imagined.
[QUOTE="Greatgone12"]Because fantasy films need to be logical.foxhound_fox
Well of course... since it was never explained in the game and was just a function of the gameplay, it obviously has to be explained in the film and made contextually sound with the plot... :roll:
I hate Hollywood.
I honestly couldn't tell. There were only a couple of slow down points in the movie. The Valkyr drug just made people freak out and see killer bird people and flaming snow.TheXboxgamer73
It sounds worse than I had ever previously imagined. Oh trust me. It was worse than I could have ever imagined as well. By the 3rd or 4th time I watched a person scream in agony because they thought bird men were attacking them I was nearly in tears. What did they do to Max Payne?
*Sigh* I was kinda hoping it's gonna be good, sinse if it was good, that would increase the chances of Max Payne 3 being made... But deep inside I knew it would fail. All games-to-movies transitions fail.... As for MP3... *Sigh*
I've never played the game but I actually throughly enjoyed the movie, maybe because I didn't even know it existed until 5 minutes before I saw so I had no expectations like most people who saw it.
I've never played the game but I actually throughly enjoyed the movie, maybe because I didn't even know it existed until 5 minutes before I saw so I had no expectations like most people who saw it.Big_player
That's probably why you liked it. It maybe good on it's own, but compared to the greatness of the game...
Hallucinogenic drugs that make people see monsters? When was that in the game?
Damn drugs seemed to have ruined the movie. Just like my life. See kids, don't do drugs!!!!
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It was never in the game. Max Payne had nightmare and dream sequences where crazy things were going on, but there were never drugs that made people see crazy bird people attacking. I'm fairly sure Jim Bravura was a detective, not a rapper named Ludacris either.
Well, there was the V drug. And it did cause hallucinations and made people go mad (both om Max's mighmares were cause by V). But while V does stand for Valkyrie (aka the bird people) Valkyries themselves were never in the game. The movie just blew it out of context. And yes, Ludacris playing Bravura is kinda out of place - Bravura was fat and white...
It was never in the game. Max Payne had nightmare and dream sequences where crazy things were going on, but there were never drugs that made people see crazy bird people attacking. I'm fairly sure Jim Bravura was a detective, not a rapper named Ludacris either.TheXboxgamer73
Technically he was injected with Valkyr at one point... but it was a huge dose that was supposed to kill him but it just gave him the worst trip of his life.
[QUOTE="TheXboxgamer73"]It was never in the game. Max Payne had nightmare and dream sequences where crazy things were going on, but there were never drugs that made people see crazy bird people attacking. I'm fairly sure Jim Bravura was a detective, not a rapper named Ludacris either.foxhound_fox
Technically he was injected with Valkyr at one point... but it was a huge dose that was supposed to kill him but it just gave him the worst trip of his life. Was he really? I must have missed it completely somehow, I'll have to play through them both again.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TheXboxgamer73"]It was never in the game. Max Payne had nightmare and dream sequences where crazy things were going on, but there were never drugs that made people see crazy bird people attacking. I'm fairly sure Jim Bravura was a detective, not a rapper named Ludacris either.TheXboxgamer73
Technically he was injected with Valkyr at one point... but it was a huge dose that was supposed to kill him but it just gave him the worst trip of his life. Was he really? I must have missed it completely somehow, I'll have to play through them both again.
Yeah, in the first game, before the second nightmare Nicole Horne injects him with a V od. Plus before the first nightmare he's drugged by Mona with what I'm almost certain is V.
Video games are alot like comic books.. They are misunderstood and not taken seriously.. The majority of comic book movies were awful for the longest of times.. Most saw that it didn't havea good enough story to have any real worth in a movie.. That it isn't "art".. Video games will one day be seen successful when they are actually taken seriously with high production values, talented writers and directors.. With a producer who knows what to do.. Like comic books they got better and better over time when they became actual works to make a good movie, instead of a money run.. It is clear Max Payne was exactly that.. When you see actors like Marky mark refuse to play Max Payne the game, the very thing the movie is based off where he PLAYS the character, and the director is complaining about ratings of all things!
To me this just looked like another PoS video game movie and cash run, sorta like AvP but it at least had one known actor.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So Valkyr was their way of justifying the "bullet time" effect? Why not just use the effect and call it cinematography? Ugh...zakkro
Because fantasy films need to be logical.A man can only suspend his disbelief for so much...I disagree.
For instance, "fantasy" and "logic" are near-contradictory (I say "near" so that I'm never wrong), therefore my statement was a joke.
I have a review in my blog. I didnt find it to be horrible, but it could have been much better, it feel short on so many levels, and Mila Kunis character was absolutly useless.
i didn't like it either. i didn't relay like seeing the angle thing but i' msure it wa in the game like once but i did't like it. i never played the second one so i'm going to see if i can buy when i pick up fable 2.
I noticed that the movie barely had anything to do with the mafia, even though the game pretty much had you kill hordes of them. At the same time, movie went along really fast, one moment he's beating up drug addicts in subway bathrooms, then the next moment he's being given that cliched evil guy monologue (where instead of killing the good guy, he ties him up and tell him his whole evil plan, but then fails to kill the good guy). As well, I never really knew where mona fit in all of this, she to me doesn't really do much other then know Max Paynes every movement.
I have a review in my blog. I didnt find it to be horrible, but it could have been much better, it feel short on so many levels, and Mila Kunis character was absolutly useless.SaintLeonidas
Mona Sax is instrumental to Max in both games... I don't see how a film based off the games can be anything but horrible if they can't get a very important character right.
[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]I have a review in my blog. I didnt find it to be horrible, but it could have been much better, it feel short on so many levels, and Mila Kunis character was absolutly useless.foxhound_fox
Mona Sax is instrumental to Max in both games... I don't see how a film based off the games can be anything but horrible if they can't get a very important character right.
Not to spoiler anything but she did nothing in the film, completely useless, she had little dialogue, like 10 minutes screen time and didnt effect the story.
Call me a NOOB, or whatever, but I liked the film. It had a colorized background kind of like Sin City. Wahlberg did a decent job. IT WAS A MOVIE BASED UPON A VIDEOGAME, FOLKS. Do not ecpect an Oscar winner. However, it was a decent movie and was a lot of fun to watch. And yes, I did play the game.
I just got back from seeing it and I have to agree. It was quite terrible. I only played the game a few times at a friends house and it was a very fun game, I hardly remember the games story because I was to busy going from gun fight to gun fight for the 15 minutes here and there that I actually got to play it.
I am not sure if this one has passed through OT Discussion recently, but to those who have not seen the Max Payne movie, find a better way to spend your night. As a movie based on a game, it is horrible. As a movie by itself, it is horrible. I can't count the number of times I wanted to walk out of the theater in sheer disappointment. I have loved and beaten both games numerous times, and with the exception of names and a bit of story, the movie pretty much creates its own downward spiral of a viewing experience. CHARACTERS: Mark Wahlberg does a pretty good Max Payne. Hes tough, gritty, reserved, and pretty much a run of the mill badass. I have nothing against Ludacris, but as Jim Bravura, his character is a joke. In the game, Mona Sax was very independent and usually charged into the fire head on with Payne following behind. In the movie, Sax is a bit too mellow, and with the exception of 1 or 2 action scenes, she really takes too much of a backseat role considering how important of a person she is to Max in the game. STORY: Max Payne loosely follows the plot of what I think is mostly the first game. Max is on the hunt for the man who killed his wife and child, and along the way, he finds connections between her murder and a drug coined "V". In the movie, the drug is the result of failed military super soldier experiments fallen into the wrong hands. Those who take it gain ridiculous amounts of focus, strength, and momentum..... with an extreme side effect of seeing large bird/angel people and fire in the sky...yea... I said it. Where the game focused more or less on a gritty story of the New York American dream gone wrong, the movie focus's more on a murder mystery and lots of hallucinogenic drugs that gets goofier and goofier as time goes on. OVERALL: I could go on and on about how much I disliked this movie, but in truth, its only hurting me more to think about it. The crazy angel/bird plot completely drags down what is already a completely mediocre detective story lacking in "bullet time" action sequences and well.... action sequences in general. You can see where someone was beginning to piece together a perfect re-creation of the game but somehow fell off the deep end and failed miserably. Do yourself a favor and put your $9 movie ticket toward a copy of the game. It'll be more enjoyable and will last far longer.TheXboxgamer73
I figured as much. Marky Mark is a pathetic actor!
I am not sure if this one has passed through OT Discussion recently, but to those who have not seen the Max Payne movie, find a better way to spend your night. As a movie based on a game, it is horrible. As a movie by itself, it is horrible. I can't count the number of times I wanted to walk out of the theater in sheer disappointment. I have loved and beaten both games numerous times, and with the exception of names and a bit of story, the movie pretty much creates its own downward spiral of a viewing experience. CHARACTERS: Mark Wahlberg does a pretty good Max Payne. Hes tough, gritty, reserved, and pretty much a run of the mill badass. I have nothing against Ludacris, but as Jim Bravura, his character is a joke. In the game, Mona Sax was very independent and usually charged into the fire head on with Payne following behind. In the movie, Sax is a bit too mellow, and with the exception of 1 or 2 action scenes, she really takes too much of a backseat role considering how important of a person she is to Max in the game. STORY: Max Payne loosely follows the plot of what I think is mostly the first game. Max is on the hunt for the man who killed his wife and child, and along the way, he finds connections between her murder and a drug coined "V". In the movie, the drug is the result of failed military super soldier experiments fallen into the wrong hands. Those who take it gain ridiculous amounts of focus, strength, and momentum..... with an extreme side effect of seeing large bird/angel people and fire in the sky...yea... I said it. Where the game focused more or less on a gritty story of the New York American dream gone wrong, the movie focus's more on a murder mystery and lots of hallucinogenic drugs that gets goofier and goofier as time goes on. OVERALL: I could go on and on about how much I disliked this movie, but in truth, its only hurting me more to think about it. The crazy angel/bird plot completely drags down what is already a completely mediocre detective story lacking in "bullet time" action sequences and well.... action sequences in general. You can see where someone was beginning to piece together a perfect re-creation of the game but somehow fell off the deep end and failed miserably. Do yourself a favor and put your $9 movie ticket toward a copy of the game. It'll be more enjoyable and will last far longer.TheXboxgamer73
you're an idiot. i enjoyed the movie, it was a generic action flick and thats exactly what i was expecting when i went into the cinema. if you'd done any research whatsoever or watched the trailers you'd know it was a typical hollywood action style movie. end of story. also, you're complaining about it not following the story of the game yet you say 'as a movie based on a game, it is horrible' ...you make little to no sense.
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